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- BorsKaegel, on 12/17/2008, -22/+149"Does this mean crazed Apple commenters will finally stop?"
No. - scotus55, on 12/18/2008, -3/+45Steve told me it wasn't a cult. And, I believe him. So there.
- techdever, on 12/18/2008, -8/+41How many last MacWorld articles must there be? OK, I get it... this is the last macworld...
- sidizzle, on 12/17/2008, -11/+44You wish
- camkerr, on 12/18/2008, -6/+34Just because the cult of the Mac doesn't have their annual religious holiday doesn't mean they don't have weekly service (Tuesday announcements). The lack of official announcements at MacWorld Apple will only fuel the rumour mill a lot more.
- Altotus, on 12/18/2008, -0/+16It's just not MacWorld. I used to love going to these trade show things... I've never been to MacWorld, but CES, E3, COMDEX... But over the years, they've all been dying. Sure, they try harder each year to prop up the corpses, but they eventually start to stink. CES is still a big deal, but, again, it's not what it once was. I think the era of the trade show (in general) is coming to a close.
As far as Apple is concerned, it's amazing they hadn't pulled out earlier. After the IDG/Apple spat and fiasco in 2002, I was sure that would spell the end of that. Today, CES is almost a more meaningful venue for Apple than MacWorld was. Macs are now but one product line in a range of products of appeal to a much larger audience.
With regard to Jobs, the official word is that he's in good health and cancer free. That would be great and all, but not likely. I don't see why people are so wrapped up in it, though. Jobs is a very good head of the company, but not uniquely so. His vision of the computer and consumer electronic devices isn't unique. Look at Macs, they became what they are only partly through his vision. Were he operating ina vacuum, there'd be NeXT machines today. - garlicdeath, on 12/18/2008, -3/+19Legoland > Macworld.
- UnstoppableV, on 12/18/2008, -3/+19Is it so hard for people today to use consumer technology without basing a large part of their identity and sense of place in society off the brand that they choose?
- Nothlit, on 12/18/2008, -2/+17It is the last time Apple will be at Macworld. Whether it will be the last Macworld remains to be seen...
- morphie, on 12/18/2008, -3/+18Did Apple pulled out of Macworld? No.
Did Steve Jobs resign? No.
Did Apple announce the discontinuation of the WWDC? No.
Did Apple announce that it'll stop building software and hardware? No.
Jeez people. One fart doesn't mean diarrhea. - L0NER, on 12/18/2008, -11/+23Seriously guys, I hope your Deity is OK.
There is nothing worse than a mob with no leader. - rolf, on 12/18/2008, -7/+18I never went to a Macworld yet I'm a Machead (to a degree). It won't make a difference to me but I loved seeing Steve speak and present things. The only thing that will eventually kill off the cult is when they stop making worthwhile products (like the early to mid 90s, which Steve talked about in 1997 presentation).
Now, Apple also won't be hamstrung by announcing products at this and that time, but when they are ready. I alway thought it was odd that this was at the beginning of the year, instead of August/September to position them for the Christmas season. Another person told me MacWorld was brutal for other companies attending it, because being in January, teams working on products didn't get Christmas-New Year's off trying to finish products.
It'll leave a vacuum, that's for sure, hopefully there will be some form of replacement, somehow and somewhere. But companies have been cooling off conventions the last few years, even E3, because they made sense to get products out there to journalists before the internet - but now not so much. Even those same print mags and newspapers are dying off slowly. - Murdats, on 12/18/2008, -6/+17so which companies have the ads that make direct claims about 'a competitor' that have usually false and are parroted non stop by a fervent fanbase?
defending against fud is different then creating it, I am sure there are those on the other side that purely defend against it as well and some on ours that take things too far but the numbers aren't balanced - franklymister, on 12/18/2008, -6/+17Wow, somebody's got sand in their C:\ drive.
It's funny how upset and insecure some people get over others enjoying their favorite computers. - Jonjonr6, on 12/18/2008, -9/+20Microsoft fanboys? Where?!
- Murdats, on 12/18/2008, -12/+23microsoft doesn't have fanbois, it has defenders, you stop providing FUD for us to defend against and we will stop defending against FUD
- addrake, on 12/18/2008, -7/+17No no no! This is part of Apple's "innovation" and "fearlessness" !
http://arstechnica.com/staff/fatbits.ars/2008/12/1 ...
As one of the commenters on this sycophantic story said, only Apple could manage to make a cost saving decision and have it hailed as a bold move. - jrm125, on 12/18/2008, -2/+11They live on...in places like Digg and the turtleneck section of your local department store...
- thentro, on 12/18/2008, -1/+10many people define their life buy the holy act of buying stuff, and can't stand it when other people buy the wrong stuff.
- cwa107, on 12/18/2008, -0/+8You hit the nail on the head. As a former, fanatical Amiga user, I can attest to how easy it is to get wrapped up in the ecosystem of a particular platform - and to a large degree, that Amiga fanaticism still influences my perception of modern computers and OSes.
- ToddsSpleen, on 12/18/2008, -3/+11It's not the last Macworld. Maybe you should read one of the articles.
- notadiggtard, on 12/18/2008, -0/+8Firewire is dead.
- haydesigner, on 12/18/2008, -1/+8@techdever: "it's the last Macworld... with Apple,, DUH... do I have to spell it out?"
Uhhh, yeah. Yeah, you do. Because nothing you wrote in your first comment remotely implied that. - Kirizan, on 12/18/2008, -4/+11Be careful, saying something good about Bill here will get you linched, don't you know this is Steve and Linus's world here?
- polishdude06, on 12/17/2008, -7/+14Well said.
Thanx - rocketz, on 12/18/2008, -3/+10I think the world will be a better place with a little less mac fanatisism... now lets hope the scientologists get inspired.
- drlha, on 12/18/2008, -1/+7FYI: Macworld has no upper-case W.
- inactive, on 12/18/2008, -3/+9You hate apple stories but you are too stupid to figure out how to filter them eh?
- inactive, on 12/18/2008, -0/+6recessions is damn hard to get over
- Murdats, on 12/18/2008, -6/+11thank you notadiggtard for providing an example. you illustrated my point perfectly
- blqysmg, on 12/18/2008, -7/+12Everyone sees value in a different way. In my world, computers are my tools. Now, you might buy your tools at Wal-Mart, and be very proud that you spend less than $10.00 on the average multi-wrench set. I prefer buying tools that are built a bit better - like Craftsman or Snap-On.
Now, I understand that not everyone sees any value in spending more money for what seems to be an equivalent tool. After all, a screw-driver is a screw-driver, right? I don't see any point in trying to convince everyone that they should buy premium tools (or even that my tools really are better.) You pays your money and you takes your chances.
I actually own both Apple and Microsoft Operating Systems, and I run the Microsoft OS on both self-built and store purchased systems. My desktop of choice is Apple OS X on a Mac Mini. The reasons are many, and they include better support for my iPhone, a stable OS (UNIX), a clean interface and little fuss.
The Mac Mini is very small and practically silent. I've got it booting from an external 1 TB drive, so it has plenty of "elbow room" and Time Capsule provides automatic hourly backups with zero configuration needed. When I moved from the small internal drive to the large external one, I did so by simply booting with my install disk, choosing to install on the external drive, and at the end of the install process, when it rebooted on the new drive for the first time, the system asked if I would like to input my personal data or pull it from my Time Capsule backup. When I checked the Time Capsule option, the system automatically restored everything, set up all of my preferences, and presented me with the system just as I'd left it on the other drive.
I've done similar upgrades with Windows. It is NOT that easy. And when one loses a Windows hard drive, one must re-install Windows, re-install the drivers for hardware, re-install the backup/restore software, then manually perform the restore. It can be done, but it's not nearly as easy or seamless.
Over all, I think the "value" of Apples should only matter to those of us who purchase the product. If you can't see the value, stick with your "value" computers. They are certainly "cheaper." - Astheria, on 12/18/2008, -3/+8The Apple stories still manage to front page, but Digg's comments have been anti-Apple for at least a year now.
- mu0p, on 12/18/2008, -6/+11Agreed. Say what you will about MS, but their success gave us the world's greatest philanthropist. All Apple gave us was the worlds most fearsome fanboy legion and a douche CEO that prided himself on dressing like Jerry Seinfeld circa 1994.
- MacDaddyNForcer, on 12/18/2008, -3/+7Cult? More like bandwagon.
- drgmdp, on 12/18/2008, -0/+4waterworld > macworld
- bunnybash, on 12/18/2008, -8/+12apple and value in the same sentence?? really... cmon now...
- mu0p, on 12/18/2008, -8/+12Jobs really wanted to show up, he really wanted to...but he kept getting jizz is his eyes and hair from the front row and it just was too tiring.
- jbella, on 12/18/2008, -1/+5Gates is a better philanthropist than Jobs. There I said it.
Though it's not really a factor when I am looking to buy a computer. - reefrmad, on 12/18/2008, -1/+5Yes. Ever since God was killed in the West, the Corporation has replaced it. Now, you worship the corporation you identify with and defend it against all and sundry.
Soon the Syndicate game will become reality. - cquinnd, on 12/18/2008, -4/+8How Many? I would predict one every day between now and Macworld, two each day during MacWorld bemoaning the fact that this is the last macworld, ongoing blog and twitter updates thru the week, and a half dozen on the last day of macworld, tracing the history of MacWorld, collecting last impressions of the final macworld, and setting up the protest and petition sites to try and bring MacWorld back...
BTW, did you hear this is supposed to be the last macworld?! - incidentflux, on 12/18/2008, -9/+12Hoping for when a day passes on Digg with zero Steve Jobs, Apple, iPhone or Mac stories on the front page. We might as well subscribe to Apple's press release RSS feed, instead of visiting Digg. Sorry if that sounds harsh.
- inactive, on 12/18/2008, -1/+4Scandisk utilities aren't Windows only.... Just so you know. It's a disk utility. So if you have a disk.... o.0
You really ought to use one once and a while. And monitor your S.M.A.R.T once and a while(for TEC).
Silly Mac users. What will they not think of next? - HonoredMule, on 12/18/2008, -0/+3One large table? How Utopian...and ignorant to the many other large tables on digg.
This kind of high school crap is the ultimate conclusion of any portal demanding volume though. The difference between demand and quality supply is filled with low quality content such as gossip, which then draws crowds who value the smut. The smut and smut-consumers grow symbiotically until quality content is marginalized, even if /everyone/ most values the quality content.
But digg is at LEAST as socially divided as any high school cafeteria. - inactive, on 12/18/2008, -28/+31Macs are terrible.
Jobs looks like a bum compared to the awesomeness of Bill Gates. Plus, Gates is using his wealth to help the world in comparison to Jobs who uses his to buy a lifetime supply of iTurtlenecks. - revsd5, on 12/18/2008, -4/+7Hurray, more stupid stories!
- Charlotte_Web, on 12/18/2008, -0/+3I think this is more about the death of the cult of Jobs.
Apple is thinking in terms of succession-planning, and part of that entails de-emphasizing Jobs as the celebrity CEO. Part of that ongoing fame is wrapped up in the annual MacWord keynote. So, Jobs isn't even going to deliver the last keynote.
I'm sure Jobs's recent health problems have raised alarms internally about who would steer this $80 billion ship if Jobs should die or be forced into retirement. - kreatre2007, on 12/18/2008, -2/+5I don't agree that this is the death of anything except tech tradeshows. Apple customers will still continue being loyal to the platform as long as Apple keeps creating products that they love. I'm going to miss MacWorld and, I'm really disappointed to see it go but in the end why wait until the first of the year to release/announce major new products? I think that behind the scenes, Apple is beginning a restructuring that will probably make things better in the end and hopefully, create a successor for Steve Jobs that will help continue Apple's success.
- Balanced, on 12/18/2008, -1/+4What, you've never taken a class that used GCC?
- Bauer22, on 12/18/2008, -0/+3There isn't the death of anything other then Trade Shows (which have been on the way out thanks to this new invention called The Internet.) Steve Jobs isn't retired yet and even when he does, that doesn't mean that Apple's gonna dramatically change since it's not gonna piss off it's Cult. Stop having an cow over this!
- Bitties, on 12/18/2008, -10/+13One can only hope.
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