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- inactive, on 01/16/2008, -18/+207Let me sum up the amount of bitching you will hear in this digg:
Apple DOES IT AGAIN -347 diggs,
overpriced +37 diggs
fanboys will BUY a turd dipped in chocolate +876 diggs
the G4 cube flopped ha ha +67diggs
no battery +15 diggs
sucks +2 diggs
but... but... Apple didn't invent the ultra portable, why do people say that Apple invented the ultra portable MA MA!!! +10 diggs
SUCKS +2 diggs
I hate Steve Jobs +573 diggs
the SSD is overpriced +67 diggs
one USB, lame +4 diggs
fanboys, shiny objects +231 diggs
Apple stock is taking a dive YAY!!! -4 diggs
Dell is better -965 diggs
Three words: Eee PC +89 diggs
overpriced +5 diggs
No Ethernet? Whaaaa? +30 diggs
five Eee PC for that +130 diggs
MA MA!!! -93 diggs
OVERPRICED +1 diggs
Apple is gay, overpriced -3 diggs
uh... did anyone mention OVERPRICED -54 diggs
one word: G4 Cube +73 diggs
no battery, the Air will fail just like the iPhone -48 diggs
overpriced -35 diggs
Why are people hating on the MacBook Air -56 diggs
if it's not for you, don't buy it -134 diggs
But will it blend? +30 diggs
But will it play Crysis? +1 diggs
Linux is God! -429 diggs
the hard drive is SLOOWWWW! +1 diggs
OVERPRICED +90 diggs
Apple fans are MORANS -174 diggs, 50 replys (it's MORON, idoit!)
did anyone mention overpriced -793 diggs
MacBook Pro is better +45 diggs
OVERPRICED -1359 diggs - EvilAnimator, on 01/16/2008, -15/+102Digg is nothing but a ***** of whining.
- Dumbledorito, on 01/16/2008, -5/+81Her lack of personality, brains, or ability to do anything while standing up are far outweighed by her enormous *****.
- csw3190, on 01/16/2008, -37/+108Agree with bluestarr. People are comparing the Air to the rest of the MacBook line, saying it's way overpriced, underpowered, etc. The problem is these people are comparing apples to oranges (sorry). Compare the Air to other ultraportables, not to a mainstream (Macbook) or power (MB Pro) notebook. The SSD option is reasonably priced, as well. Look at the price of other manufacturers optional SSD's. They are all around $1k and no lower than $800.
Of course some sacrifices have to be made when cramming a usable machine into that package, but give Apple credit for making it comparable to mainstream laptops, unlike many ultraportables that forgo power, memory, space, and functionality (isight, multitouch) for size.
Also, people will buy this simply because it has the Apple logo. look at mp3 players. they seemed to have no future around the turn of the century, but Apple released a mainstream, easy-to-use device at a slightly higher price. But people are susceptible to brand loyalty and recognition. The simplicity of configurations also helps since people don't have to choose from half a dozen iterations of the operating system, they don't have nine hard drive options, and they don't have four screen resolutions. Simplicity is Apple's game, which is why they are successful. Their products appeal to the masses, another reason why Mossberg is such a brilliant reviewer--he speaks to the common person, not the geek. - shinythingy, on 01/16/2008, -16/+76The other do have more than one USB port and some even have *gasp* optical drives!!!
- inactive, on 01/16/2008, -6/+49Time Capsule doesn't come with the macbook air.....
- inactive, on 01/16/2008, -15/+55So pretty much every month you'd be stuck, if you were using a MacBook Air.
- logicalnoise, on 01/16/2008, -0/+30The internet is a ***** storm of whining
*fixed* .....also welcome - MisterSam, on 01/16/2008, -3/+31The people complaining about this are not apple's target market. They cannot seem to understand that there are a lot of people who will want this.
For example, I work for an international website. My boss is the CTO of the company. As soon as he saw the Air and the specs he immediately ordered one. His current travel portable is a black macbook, he's getting the Air purely because of its lightness and slimness. He doesn't need a super-computer when he goes on business trips, he just wants something for email, web browsing, word, excel etc. He couldn't give a crap about a top graphics card or CD-ROM drive. We both discussed this and couldn't remember when we last needed a CD-drive, especially for work related matters.
And, it's the same for me. I use a MBP for work and carry it around everyday to and from the office. It freaking kills me how heavy this is. I will probably be getting the Air for business trips too. What would I use it for? Web browsing, web editing, photo editing, email, remote desktopping into servers etc. It's light, fast, small and with decent battery life. I don't believe I would notice any performance different between it and my MBP for basic tasks (which 95% of my working day consists of).
Anyway, my point is, if you don't fit the profile for a Macbook Air don't assume it's useless for everyone. I expect it will be very successful. Yes it's not for everyone, but apple are not stupid, they make products for certain people and this product will find it's target. - BlueStarr, on 01/16/2008, -91/+118Apple's not over charging for it's entry model. It competes very well with others in this market. But what the others don't have is OS X, iPhoto, iWork, Super-duper form factor, back-lit keyboard, time capsule, iSight, etc. When you include all the elements of a laptop and that includes software the MBA is a beautiful machine.
- deadbaby, on 01/16/2008, -10/+36"Let's be rational. It's not even remotely affordable"
I can't tell if this story is a joke or what. I think once you get past the $3000 mark debating a $100-$200 difference is completely irrational. People in the market for this type of laptop expect to pay $2000+ at the low end, $3000+ at the high-end. That's just how it is.
I always wonder if the backlash against expensive products isn't simple jealously. I can't really justify spending that type of money but I know people who can. I don't see why Apple, Toshiba, Sony, etc should ignore a market just to make us poor folks feel better about ourselves. - norman619, on 01/16/2008, -4/+26YAY!!! More crap to lug around.
- orlandogeek, on 01/16/2008, -3/+25No thanks. I'll buy a 13" MacBook that is still small enough to be quite portable, comes with all those great programs, has an optical drive, and a removable battery. I'll get MORE for about $700 less at the basic configuration level.
Sure, the aesthetics of the Air, like all Apple products is phenomenal. The problem is that aside from the MacBook / MacBook Pro / Mac Pro lines, when looked at realistically, Apple products tend to suffer from some pretty glaring form over function issues. - norman619, on 01/16/2008, -3/+25You are pretty lonely if you can equate a laptop to a pretty girl you can talk to.
- ScoobyNew, on 01/16/2008, -2/+23You forgot RONPAUL '08 +9 diggs
/sarcasm - norman619, on 01/16/2008, -71/+92And what people really don't need is OS X, iPhoto, iWork, iSight, etc.
- ulmedas, on 01/16/2008, -1/+21Actually, very few ultra-portables come with a built in optical drive, though for lenovo's x60, you can buy the 2.5lb bay and drive around $200 extra.
- treed, on 01/16/2008, -18/+38Do you know how often I use the optical drive on my MacBook Pro? Like once a month. Maybe.
- KSUdesigner, on 01/16/2008, -0/+19I don't believe that iWork is included either, just a 30 day demo.
- michaelb1, on 01/16/2008, -4/+23This reminds me of when the first iMac came out. "What! No floppy drive!!! WTF!! How the hell are we supposed to....."
- directive0, on 01/16/2008, -6/+24So...don't buy it?
- Shiftgood, on 01/16/2008, -3/+20are you kidding me? that saved me tons of time.
- Numbski, on 01/16/2008, -4/+215 year old computer? What are you smoking?
- Makaveli604, on 01/16/2008, -11/+28Me? I'm a person.
- Armstrong3, on 01/16/2008, -1/+17Amazed at how much people are bitching about this. If you don't want it, don't get it...who cares!
well done clak - zakatov, on 01/16/2008, -5/+21Worst title ever. nothing to do with article, buried.
- greenlight2001, on 01/16/2008, -1/+17Pretty much sums it up.
- Murdats, on 01/16/2008, -1/+16you must have fairly boring conversations then.
- Totalchaos02, on 01/16/2008, -15/+2993% of consumers?
- inactive, on 01/16/2008, -1/+14It's OK if you *have* a nearby Mac or Windows PC that you have admin access to (also: nothing for users of other operating systems, but that's a completely separate argument), but if you're away from home it's likely to be quite problematic.
Don't get me wrong, I approve of what Apple are doing in pushing software companies away from using physical media - I'd like to see a future where everything is done by download: less wasted media = better for the environment *and* cheaper for consumers (and no worries about losing the install disc), but there's no way in hell I'd want to suffer being in the first generation of that and having to switch on another computer every time I want to install something.
Especially when the *Mac OS X installation* media is a DVD (?!) If they'd *really* wanted to be progressivist they'd have put it on an external flash drive or something, but that's probably asking a little to much since it's still rather expensive at today's prices. - TheFiestyFaun, on 01/16/2008, -0/+13he might mean Time Machine. but i dk.
- angusm, on 01/16/2008, -5/+18"Needs of laptop users"? The MacBook Air is not about _need_. It's about giving in to your raging technolust for polished metal objects, your unstoppable geek desire for something that is quite clearly Teh Sexy in a shiny three-pound package. 'Need' doesn't enter into it.
- MioTheGreat, on 01/17/2008, -0/+12The difference is that floppy drives were slow, small, and crappy even back then.
We're still dealing with a very fast technology that can hold over 10% of the Air's hard drive on a single disk. It's also, given the upper bound of the Air's hard drive size, a very important medium for watching movies, which one might want to do on this kind of device. - Nesh, on 01/16/2008, -1/+13Can she spell, too?
- danielwsmithee, on 01/17/2008, -2/+14That 1.6 GHz C2D would smoke ANY laptop you could buy in 2006 let alone 2002.
- qpid, on 01/16/2008, -9/+20No they charge ~$400 for a 32gb ssd and then $400 more to go to 64gb, which is right in line with apple
- MacParrot, on 01/16/2008, -12/+23You seem to do just fine with your head up your ass.
- mateo60, on 01/16/2008, -0/+11On the high end comparisons, the price difference in minimal. If I was in the market for a sub-notebook and wanted an SSD drive, I'd choose the Macbook Air hands down. But I DON'T want one, I'm NOT in the market for a sub-notebook. Having a super slim notebook isn't THAT big of a deal to me.
- totorototoro, on 01/16/2008, -2/+13Its Charles Jade who wrote that, and its obviously written tongue in cheek (as he is well known for :p)
(he wants one *in spite of* the typical rational arguments everyone will raise) - inactive, on 01/17/2008, -3/+14"Your music is great.. can you burn a cd for me? I want to listen in my car on the way home"
"No, I don't carry CD-Rs everywhere I go."
"Well, gimme a list so I can go get it on piratebay."
Thats more like it. - InspectorGadget, on 01/16/2008, -0/+11Did...did you just troll yourself?
- Theli, on 01/17/2008, -0/+10"Compare the Air to other ultraportables, not to a mainstream (Macbook) or power (MB Pro) notebook."
I think you are pushing the term "ultra portable" too far here. When I think of ultra portable, I think of the OQO or the EEE PC, essentially computers with screen size of around 7 inches. The Macbook Air is still a laptop. A thin, light laptop, but still a laptop. - M4cb0y, on 01/16/2008, -10/+20http://www.apple.com/macbookair/wireless.html
"Remote Disc
1. Set up Remote Disc on a nearby Mac or PC.
2. Insert the software disc you want to install.
3. Install the software on MacBook Air."
Good enough for me. I'd rather have a slimmer laptop than access to an optical drive at all times. - wellyuk, on 01/17/2008, -0/+10You're a macbook? Impressive.
- thesandreckoner, on 01/16/2008, -0/+9thats was she said!
- trnelson, on 01/16/2008, -7/+16I have to admit, I like Apple but I'm not really that big a fan. That said, I still think that even if it is overpriced, Apple has never turned down an opportunity to release a product that was niche like this (iPod, iPhone, it's all the same). They're just stepping it up and helping keep the industry moving forward. For one, this will push a need for SSDs which are overdue anyway; they'll faster increase in size and someday we'll be looking back at the MacBook Air as being the mainstream pioneer of this technology.
Apple releases technology like this for the people that have the money, yes, but it's also a gateway for a market that we can all objectively say is viable. Making it a reality just allows that to happen sooner than later.
And a positive comment like this coming from a Windows guy. See, we can all get along. - dusingaz, on 01/16/2008, -1/+9The MacBook AIR is really designed to be your second computer, the portable one to compliment a desktop computer. To think someone would buy this as their one and only is nuts. Not the right market, if you can afford this, your probably doing so for travel, etc...
- MasterInsan0, on 01/16/2008, -0/+7"Why to people have to bitch about things they don't like and instead maybe hype up something else thats good?"
Because only tools and ***** do a marketing department's job for them. - arbulus, on 01/16/2008, -6/+13When i compare the MacBook Air to other ulturaportables, I don't see others charging the kind of price that Apple is charging.
- suprememilo, on 01/16/2008, -10/+17Why to people have to bitch about things they don't like and instead maybe hype up something else thats good?
I like the comparison articles, but ones that just complain are not productive.
Most people I know spend areound $1800 for a laptop, and most of them never use any dedicated graphics, and never really use the DVD drive. -
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