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- shadedream, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11"So you want a cheap bottom of the range notebook and expect it to have dedicated graphics?
I want a Ferrari 360 but will only pay $10k for it."
From the current iBook spec page: ATI Mobility Radeon 9550 with 32MB of dedicated DDR SDRAM. I swear sometimes that the digg comment system is a competition to see who can be the biggest ass.
Personally I hope to see them avoid the Intel graphics with shared ram. Im sure if they do it'll still only have like 64mb. I'd love to see them offer at least 128 though. - Durvivor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I know this is horrible, but what keeps me wanting a Macbook Pro is the backlit keyboard.
- HAKdragon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@Frosty,
iBooks have always have dedicated graphics. They have normally been mobile versions of a chip that isn't neccesarily high end at the time, but they've always have had a dedicated chip with dedicated VRAM. My 1Ghz iBook has an ATI 9200 Mobile with 32MB of RAM dedicated to graphics. It's no where near high end (even when it was released), but it sure as hell doesn't isn't sharing it's VRAM with system RAM. - atmclipse, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I sure hope so. But is it going to still be under $1000?
- grenz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I hope it will, but looking at the mac mini, I think it is safe to say that it will be either $1099 or $1199. Too bad really as a sub $1000 laptop would be huge with all the positive press lately.
Apple just seems addicted to the premiums on their Hardware. - conigs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"Well, from how I see it, since the 12 inch powerbook will be removed, the new high end ibook (macbook) will probably have the same price. Which is around 1,500. That's a big blow since, I'm sure all of us were hoping that these models would have the same price as the current ibooks. Really crappy that they're doing this."
From speculation to fact in 4 sentences. That's no record, but still pretty impressive. - matthew.paul, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I'm gonna miss the 12" Powerbook. It just won't be the same having a high end MacBook. And damn it, it had better not have shared vram.
- dusingaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4For the Pro market, a 13.3" screen is just not enough. Although I agree they are closing the gap a bit if these specs are true.
- KidVicious, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Does this mean that Apple is going to start to shy away from the i+Name format for their products? I hope so.
- jla0, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5You can expect the same specs as the Mac Mini.. and that means..
"Intel GMA950 graphics processor with 64MB of DDR2 SDRAM shared with main memory"
Almost ALL low end Intel laptops have integrated graphics... ~95% - 7of7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This should be cool for the people like teachers who want to do cool Mac laptop stuff without either breaking the bank or buying a Mini. I hope it's not as hot as the Macbook Pro though. Those things are a sure way to get your boys to swim in a little bit slower circles if ya know what I mean .
- mrpither, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4my aren't you friendly... is this what it is to be a mac user?
'mighty' mouse has more than one button. is it such a leap to think they might make a similar move with their laptops? i guess if by some chance it has more than one track-button you won't be buying then. - tecmec, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4They never said they were replacing 'i' with 'mac', they just said that they want all their computers to have the word 'mac' in the name.
- aoe2bug, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3What's wrong with the build quality? Not that an improvement wouldn't be nice, but as a college student I handle my iBook (the new all-white-plastic-g4's) pretty roughly, and aside from having obvious marks on it (graphite, from drawing classes; comes off easy) it is very solid, as far as I'm concerned
- Refrag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Power Macintoshes pre-dated PowerPC chip based Macintoshes. They should have stuck with PowerBook.
Digg needs to make comment creation in-line just like comment editing to prevent people from commenting in the wrong spot just I did. :( - apflwr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3People will buy Pro because it's "Pro." A year ago the 12" Powerbook was only marginally better than the iBook--some 300mhz faster, more video, a Superdrive option-- but cost at least $600 more. Actually the iBook was kind of better in some respects, it's a sturdier design and has better wifi reception and battery life. But the 12" Powerbook sold extremely well, and part of the reason is because the iBook is perceived as a cheap student laptop-- and something that a serious "professional" shouldn't be carrying.
(And yes, it sounds like a superficial reason.. But in many industries your laptop is as much a reflection of you as how you dress.) - msaleem, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I hope the build quality will be better than previous ibooks.
- seitanguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3My thoughts exactly. They better not replace the 12" pb with an ibook-like computer. Don't they know there is a market for a high-end laptop with a small screen? My 12" pb is great. I think the 15" MacBookPro is too big, but I want power!
- arizonagroove, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Really crappy that they're doing this..."
Except there is no evidence that they will do it. You're just making negative comments based on your own speculations. Why not wait until you find out what actually happens and then make a judgement? - Durrok, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I don't like the Mac OS so I would put XP on the laptop which seems kinda retarted to do. When it comes down to it though, Apple just makes some of the best laptops out there. Plus I would love to see the look on mac lovers faces when they come up to me like "Oh you got the new MacBook! Wow, that's nice look at t- .... wait .... is that windows?" :)
I would love to get one, but over $1k price tag will be hard to swallow. - foxhoundadmin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2maybe apple's just re-naming their laptop line.
- nigeltufnel, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5With a Core Duo, my guess is that they'll add $100 to the current iBook prices like they did to the Mini.
What I'm really hoping is that the 17" MacBook supports 1920x1200. - msaleem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I don't think it will have shared vram. Article also talks about the 17" pro book, but there hasn't yet been any mention of the 12" pbook. Consider how well it sold, I would imagine they will come up with it at a future date. main problem would be to put in such a grand processor in such a small machine, and controlling the temperature.
- isewise, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The real question is if this new macbook is going to be released also with a new iPod. I think it could be possible, last report I heard was the new iPod was coming out in mid to late June.
- GabrielGranas, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Oh man finally :D Ive been waiting all year for them,I just hope they dont have shared vram :'(
- vanlandw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2no way these are priced lower then the previous ibooks after the mac mini going up in price $100..i expect the same if not more for the "MacBook's"
personally I feel sub $1000 is not going to happen even with student discount pricing. - bedouin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2One thing you have to take into consideration about the $100 price hike of the Mac Minis is that it now includes Airport Extreme, Bluetooth, and a remote control (i.e., Front Row compatibility) which the PPC Minis had none of these three options. Also I believe the memory has been raised to 512 when it was 256mb before, though I can't remember for sure. The iBooks have had bluetooth and 512mb ram for about a year now, with no price hikes. So it's not a give in that the MacBooks will have a $100 price increase like the Minis.
- marktwen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Bingo. I utterly love my 15" PB, the backlit keyboard, too, but it's just too big and heavy to really be part of my day. I've come to think of it as a desktop that can be put away and not take up an entire corner of a room.
I'm just waiting for anything small and light enough to carry everywhere in my bag and (relatively) cheap enough that I could eat the cost if/when it gets lost/stolen/trashed. - TheD, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3if if if...been hearing this for 20 years. "if it only had this, if it only didnt do that, if only the keys didnt hurt my fingers..."
please.
buy it or dont.
just stop bitching about it either way. jeez. - mntpng, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Apple has to drop the price of the hardware. When 15" Macbook Pro first came out, it was fairly price competitive with Dell or Acer counterpart. Since then the price of core duo laptop prices on PC side have dropped few hundred dollars but Macbook Pro prices have not. Apple does have to adjust their price or people buying Macbook Pro will feel like they're being ripped off just so they can run Mac OS X on overpriced machines. If the gap between comparable PC prices and Macbook Pro price grows larger than $250, then Apple is no longer competing in x86 space but rather forcing people to pay premium for the previledge of running Mac OS X. To me $250 premium is justifiable for a sleeker looking laptop, Mac OS X, and iLife suite. Will I pay more than $250 premium? Hmm.. I don't think so.
- rjcarr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've owned both a 12" PowerBook and 12" iBook (both the latest G4 variety) and I can tell you the powerbook is better and worth the permium price.
"it's a sturdier design and has better wifi reception and battery life"
Certainly not a sturdier design, the pb is more compact and made from metal. Not sure what you meant there.
In my experience, the reception is comparable, as well as battery life, but it does seem the ibook is a bit better there.
"the iBook is perceived as a cheap student laptop-- and something that a serious "professional" shouldn't be carrying"
There is some weight to this ... but most professionals don't care about a $500 difference, and just looking at them, which would you chose? - JuliusErving, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"In doing so, Apple will position the 13.3-inch MacBook as both an entry-level laptop and as a replacement for Apple's 12-inch PowerBook G4"
Am I the only one who will be upset if they never come out with a 12-13" macbook pro? I've been holding off on buying a 12 inch powerbook for sometime now because i figured apple would be coming out with an intel one. My fear is that this new macbook will perform decently, but not be as thin or light as a macbook pro would be. And sadly, i really don't like the white color compared to the silver.
I usually read the comments first, but i'm running out the door and just wanted to know other's opinions on this. Thanks. - poofyhairguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I WANT Intel Graphics. I would prefer it. In fact, if it has an Intel video chip over an ATI one (only real other option) I will be sure to buy one.
Why?
Because I want to dual boot Linux on there...... - TheD, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2yeah Right, like your gonna buy anything anyway.
no sale...lol, what a little bitch.
here, let me save you some time.
http://www.dell4me.com
you should be able to find something there thats "nice" and "cheap" without all the "gimmicks" you so dread.There must be something there that will allow you to sit a starbucks and chat with your girlfriends on myspace.
now go away. - JuliusErving, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hey are you joking? I guess i'm an idiot if you are, but i'm assuming you're not. I see TONS of consumers with ibooks these days. Even if a student decided to break their current ibook on purpose to get a new MacBook, they would never get a new MacBook. Schools put in massive orders for computers, so they're not going to replace one kid's ibook for an updated version. Your reasoning is extremely flawed.
- TheD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1golddiga,
could you please post some graphics, or rendering tests you have done to show us exactly how the integrated graphics compare in the everyday usage of most computer users? some examples of say, iphoto or viewing videos or dvds, maybe some batch file conversions, Office stuff maybe? I would be interested in seeing Your findings. - Refrag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1albrad, you should have seen the first version of the current Ibooks. I have one and it is beautiful. It's clear plastic that is painted white on the inside (as the 5G Ipod is) unlike the current ones that are white plastic.
- monkeybutler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I hope its not white. I think the white thing is getting played out. Or maybe a choice between white and a nice shiny black like the ipods.
- grenz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@nigeltufnel
If you look though the mac mini is a core solo for the base model. So if they go core duo we could expect to see an even more expensive bump to the line up. If they follow the standards of Mac pricing that is. who knows though? Maybe they will decide they want market share one day - Anth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1In order to hit the $999 price point they'd probably go CoreSolo. I could see it happening for the back to school shopping in mid july. By then we might see yohans price go down (yonah-based celerons).
- TheD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1another person "just itching" to buy, who almost never does.
For specs on upcoming macbook: see mac mini
For pricing on upcoming macbook: see above - ucg1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Lets get a Trackpoint-like device while we're at it. Touchpads are so backwards, especially for an OS that is so mouse-driven. Trackpoint is so much more efficient.
- golddigga, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i do hope it doesn't have intergrated graphics in it, the mac minis weak spot
- cphuntington97, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1PowerBook doesn't have the world "Mac" in it (or Apple, for that matter).
Apple and Macintosh are Apple's big brand names -they want you to know them.
They learned this from the auto industry - what kind of car do you drive? No one says, "I drive an SC430." They just say, "I drive a Lexus."
You can either make your models random numbers or you can include your name or big brand name in them. It's called "focusing the brand." - t3hX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You'd guess that the "Power" being removed is the same as PowerPC. But they were called PowerBooks before the PowerPC was around...
- suMMx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i need an intel based mac laptop and if this 13.3" mac is ~$1k i will be buying, the macbook PRO is enticing but just too big and expensive.
- Marlon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just in time for my Bday!
come to mama!
MAMA'S WAITING BABY!
A little too excited. - prestige, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yeah. The 15.4" MacBook is more of a desktop replacement than a laptop, imho. I like my little powerbook 12" because I can toss it in my car. Sit comfortably with it on my knee. Basically, I use it as an over-sized PDA. Taking notes in meetings, a little graphical touch ups and minor web work. Remote desktop into Windows systems and SSH into my servers. When I really need to do more serious development work, I use a workstation. I'm not knocking the big MacBook; it's a sweet system that definitely suits other people's lifestyles better than mine.
I did have a few critical issues with it, however. I found when running more than 2 apps, which require Rosetta to run, it became dog slow - certainly no faster than my G4. Now, when the rest of the world goes Universal Binary that won't be an issue. By that time, I'm sure I will get more bang for my buck in Apple goodness. The specific apps I was trying to run are: Photoshop, Word, and Zend Studio 5.1. I couldn't get Zend to install at all. I did install XP on it using Boot Camp and it went flawlessly. On MacBook hardware, Windows XP looked awesome and ran faster than even on my PC... still I didn't pay $2.6k to use Windows.
By the time the 13" MacBooks are out, I imagine there will be more Universal apps ready to run on what is my preferred form factor. I can't wait! - msaleem, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2It seems like no one would really want a macbook pro after this. either get a macbook, or get a g5 quad-tower, i say.
- macewan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1$999 for a entry level Apple/Intel laptop would be nice indeed
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