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- nmap, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21This needs a section about heat.
- thinkdifferent, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Due to the lack of universal binary of Photoshop, performance is reduced compared to immediately prior generation Powerbooks since it needs to run in Rosetta. However, if your older machine was more than 2 years old, you'll still likely see an improvement in performance running under Rosetta. The gfx card will make no difference at all for Photoshop, only 3D games & some specialized apps, like the Final Cut Studio suite will see reduced performance vs MBP.
- gambl0r, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12The ones I've seen in the apple store running at the end of the day (so they've been running all day, at least), aren't too hot at all. Of course, they aren't playing DVDs or games, but people *are* constantly using them, and they are not overheating.
- Arthemys, on 10/12/2007, -9/+16Speaking of which; I was just in an Apple store the other day and they had the MacBooks on display. Running idle on a flat surface, the chassis could fry an egg. You'd think that the store associates might report back to Apple or something if enough customers make a comment on it.
- ct2000, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7http://www.macworld.com/2006/05/firstlooks/macbookfaq/index.php proper link !
- eurotransient, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I checked out the heat myself this weekend at the Apple store. It's a little bit warm on the underside of the laptop, to the left, but other than that, barely noticeable. Also runs very quiet. And this was at the end of the day, so it'd likely been on for hours and played with the whole time.
One thing I did find a bit shady, though: The display models all had the spec sheet next to it, stating 512MB of RAM -- and yet, every single display model had 1GB installed. - crossthread, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8And if this were a thread about IBM ThinkPads, somebody in here might give a damn.
- phunlee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I'm getting one.
- Boondoggle, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10And now you've heard me say that the ones I've handled at the Apple Store do not appear to be running particularly hot.
- tapezor, on 10/12/2007, -9/+13Well you just heard arthemys say it does. The ones on display in the apple store as a matter of fact.
- aplardi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5The videocard is he only thing holding me back, until I play with it though I will hold my judgment. My dad is buying a Mini this month so I can test on that.
I don't really play much games anymore, so being able to would only be a plus, but I do use Photoshop/GIMP, a few "Macsperts" on some forums were saying it is terrible for photoshop, even for universal binary gimp/gmipshop.
Any truth to this? - rjespo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I purposefully felt the macbooks on display in the store and they were only barely warm, and that was after running demo's on a loop and after i had downloaded and watched two HD movie trailers.
- pornel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6That intel chipset can't be all that bad - it does support CoreImage (some special effects and gfx acceleration for OS X apps) unlike for example ATI Radeon in PowerPC Mac Minis.
- macskickass, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5After playing with the Macbook for a bit I was thoroughly impressed with the onboard graphics!
1. Fully supporting Core Graphics
2. Supporting external monitors up to 19x12 (both Apple's 20" & 23" Cinema Displays will work)
3. Not just mirroring but also Spanning the desktop (VERY IMPRESSIVE)
And if all else fails you can always boot into Windows XP for Photoshop that should provide excellent performance until the universal binary come out for OS X! - Malte, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4A more precise article about the MacBook can be found at:
http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/macbook.ars
There i found the answer to my question. - _skin_, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7CoreDuo Temp is not accurate at all.
- LeggNet, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6My MacBook runs warm, but not nearly as hot as my Dell Inspiron. As I write this, it is on my lap and has a temp of 57 degrees (using CoreDuoTemp). Under extreme load it has only gotten to 72, and that was just for a few seconds.
- Acidosis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3 The video linked to in the article is pretty useful for those looking to do a cheap upgrade but are wary about pulling there 1000 dollar mac apart.
- macskickass, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"One thing I did find a bit shady, though: The display models all had the spec sheet next to it, stating 512MB of RAM -- and yet, every single display model had 1GB installed"
I've noticed that too! Not long after the intel Mini came out, I was looking in the Apple Store for a core solo to see it's performance ... They only had Duos on display even though the spec sheet said "Core Solo". And the RAM is always higher than what they ship with by default.
C'mon Apple, PUT OUT THE BASE MODEL CONFIGURATIONS FOR US PO' FOLK! - Benoa, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Quote from the article : "here are some answers to several **burning** MacBook questions"
Is this ironic? :) - Malte, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Speaking of temperature.... how often does the fan run and how loud is it? Nowadays it has become very important for me to have an almost silent notebook
- eurotransient, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@aplardi
Admittedly, I'm hardly a Photoshop guru, so i couldn't really describe the fine points of running it on any system. That said, the floor model for the Macbook has Photoshop installed and it seems to run fairly smooth. Granted, I only opened up an image and played around with it for a wee bit, but I didn't detect a massive slowdown of any kind. - Arthemys, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7In any case the MacBooks and MacBook Pros I've touched at the Valley Fair Apple store were "too hot" in my opinion.
- ronaldpoi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Very informative. Thanks
- AhmedB, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3My 2 cents regarding the heat of the Macbooks, from what I've seen and 'felt' for myself, I was at Apple store yesterday, I tried the 6 Macbooks that were on display, I felt them all over on the underside and on the top (keyboard and surrounding area) and this is what I thought...
1. Underside upper left corner (area) kinda hot...
2. Underside lower left is warm...
3. Underside lower right is warm...
4. Underside upper right is warm...
5. Upper face upper left is 'cool' (strange as most people say this place gets hot).
6. Upper face upper right is 'cool' again.
7. Upper face lower left is very very lightly warm, (very bearable).
8. Upper face lower right is very very lightly warm (again very bearable compared to my 2.0 GHz Centrino Gateway).
Now I would say overall temperature is pretty Ok on the top but the bottom I wouldn't be using this thing in my lap (def. not more than 5/10 mins tops).
Then I moved to the other isle that had the Macbook Pros I put my hand under the MBP, this thing is VERY VERY hot, not comparable at all to the MB, much much hotter, I cannot even imagine putting this thing in my lap. Again the upper left corner is boiling as everyone had pointed out before.
So from what I've seen the MB are much cooler and tolerable than the MBP. Oh and as far as the black vs white, the white is the 'iconic' look, but the black kinda speaks out.."I'm the new Mac", I'd probably get the black with a student discount :)
Keyboard has no problems at all, feels a little strange for a second, then feels normally, key response is pretty normal too.
On my way out a girl was walking out with her white MB and her dad with an MBP, frankly I envied her...:) - eurotransient, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2And if I had any desire whatsoever to lug around a 15" screen for web browsing, blogging and word processing, I'd be all over it...
Alas, I'll take the "puny" screen any day :) - timn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Starcraft runs great on my macbook!
- sakuraevolution, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2*laughs* I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that!
- norz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@_skin_: why is coreduotemp not accurate?
@LeggNet: of course, you're talking about celsius degrees, right? - jo42, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1> high gloss screen
I just want to know, what frickin' retard started putting shiny, reflective screens on laptops. I do NOT want to see myself or my surroundings all the time. Morons. - cosm0, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3For me the video card (or a lack thereof) and most importantly the puny 13.3 inch screen are no-goes. I will stick with my 15.4 inch Powerbook for now. Save up and buy a MacBook Pro when the time comes.
- lovethatnixter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Agreed! I found the video and article to be very informative.
- LinkTiger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"the white is the 'iconic' look, but the black kinda speaks out..'I'm the new Mac'"
Kind of ironic, seeing as, up until the iBook g3, all of Apple notebooks were black. Weird how everything comes full-circle. - computerdude33, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4When I wrote that comment, Arthemys's comment wasn't there. That's just what I've heard; I've never actually seen (or felt) anything from the MacBook line.
- wes2082, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0> Hi there, I'm Wes2082 and I have the New Mac Book white 2.0Ghz w/ 1gig. I'm new to this "digg" thing. Here's the thing, I use my mac book all the time, at home here at work with Apple telesales, "ALL THE TIME"!! It does get warm, all computers do, my Toshiba that is new, my old dell, It does seem to get "warmer" than others, but you got to look at how thin this mac is, There's not that much instillation there, All computers how ever, produce the same heat, My mac is without a doubt the "Best" laptop I have owned. Basically, It's a total bad ass, If you don't have one, get one. I give apple 2 thumbs up for the mac book and this is coming from someone that has used "PC's" all his life. Screw you windows! Now I'm going to go watch Kevin and Alex get ***** up. Bye!
- joehutsko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I visited some nice Apple folk at the Le Meridian Hotel today, for a demo, and sat with it in my lap for nearly an hour, and it never got too darn hot, too darn hot, for my legs, and wrote it up, briefly, at http://joeygadget.com.
- cypherz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Very informative. Thanks. FWIW, my 17" MBP doesn't get particularly hot. I haven't done any transcoding yet or any *really* processor-intensive tasks on it yet. However, using it for ordinary tasks (Xcode, web browsing etc) it stays very cool. Once when the house got a little warmer, I could faintly hear the fan(s) turn on. Normally it is silent.
- computerdude33, on 10/12/2007, -12/+11From what I've heard, the MacBook doesn't overheat.
- veritech, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1ol' skool gaming
- SilentPurity, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Thats what she said! Oh PWNED by the Silentpurity.
- coldfusion1970, on 10/12/2007, -11/+7Good article.
- tallguy14, on 10/12/2007, -12/+4My IBM thinkpad runs nice and cool!
- thinkdifferent, on 10/12/2007, -17/+2Dupe of
http://digg.com/apple/Your_MacBook_Questions_Answered
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