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- ravenmuffin, on 10/12/2007, -5/+90Those requirements were in relation to the dual-booting/virtualization of Vista and Linux, etc. etc.
But the whole article is completely bogus, nothing more than a few ideas thrown together by someone who doesn't really have a clue, much less an insider's knowledge.
My take:
1. Wrong. Leopard will likely NOT support OS 9/Classic at all, because the transition to Intel chips will be complete on all Macs shipped with Leopard. Intel chips don't run PowerPC code and writing an emulator for an extinct OS would please a total of about 3 users. Evidence the author is clueless: Classic never did support OS 8.
2. Author has seen Boot Camp, heard of virtualization and is making up specs required to support it. Hint: Parallels requires about 5 GB.
3. A third-part product DiskWarrior, that hasn't yet been optimized for a new OS X release is unlikely to be bundled with it. AppleCare (a service contract) is entirely separate from Leopard (an OS).
4. No one doubts the apps will receive a few new features. The author's guesses are very boring though: Colored Safari tabs. Yawn.
5. Dock "boing boing" sounds. Yeah right.
6. "Hooks to support an Apple PDA, but I can say no more." Author can say no more because it is wild and unlikely speculation. An Apple PDA? Souped up iPod, possibly, iPhone maybe. iSync already provides hooks for almost every modern phone and PDA anyway.
7. Metadata already is editable. It's a file format feature - EXIF in photos, etc, not an OS function.
8. "3 'Finder' windows open simultaneously." Hmm.
9. One of the few on the mark ideas. Widgets can already run anywhere with a 3rd party utility, and it would be easy for Apple to make this standard in Leopard.
10. Wrong. Terminal will stay a command line interface.
11. Unlikely. Apps will not be integrated into super apps, a la Outlook. It's not the Apple way.
12. Voice recognition won't return, because it never left. Apple calls it Speech Recognition anyway.
13. And will exceed the speed of light. YMMV.
14. Whatever.
15. Sherlock will be replaced by widgets. Okay, it more or less has been already.
16. Repairing permissions is one of the biggest myths perpetuated by clueless Mac fanboys around. It hasn't been necessary since 10.2 Jaguar.
17. Airport telling you your signal is being hijacked? Nice idea, but probably not even possible, let alone a feature of Leopard.
18. Unnecessary and doubtful: what if the user restarted BECAUSE they were having troublesome network connections.
19. Remotely possible, but "TrashBack" is very un-Apple name, and why would they go into the file recovery business if they are already bundling the 3rd party tool the author claimed they would.
20. Yeah, numerous other bug fixes is genuine insider knowledge. No one would have though of that!
Conclusion: Baseless.
Wait for the WWDC for the real Leopard feature set. - knowall, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29This was an April Fools joke: http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.php?t=291048
- knowall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15THIS WAS AN APRIL FOOLS JOKE posted to a forum
http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.php?t=291048 - BridgetDS, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17150gb HD & 2gb RAM required to run more than one operating system? That seems highly unlikely given that a) this would render all currently available systems unable to do so and b) BootCamp lets you do a 5gb partition.
- blackbelt88, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18whoa, run two OSes at the same time. That's awesome! i'm a Windows guy, but those new macs are looking pretty sexy from over here.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11The 10.4.6 update already fixed that one ;)
- mikeazorin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Wait... a basic operating system should take about 5GB, including some basic software. So two operating systems = 10GB + 5GB free space * 2 for optimal performance. Without any applications running, an OS should do about 256MB RAM tops, add another 256MB for big apps. So 20GB + 1GB RAM sounds about quite right. The virtualisation thing sounds awesome, but honestly, 150GB? For what?
- mikeazorin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Did you read the feature list? You wouldn't pay $130 for that?
- ghelton, on 10/12/2007, -2/+111. Leopard supports OS 9.x, as is done with Tiger, but OS 8 and earlier will not be officially supported. Legacy apps may still work, but Apple just won’t support them.
2. During the Leopard install, you are given the option to create specific partitioning to accommodate M$ Vista and Linux. Reformatting your HD is not required. Depending on your processor and RAM, all OS’s can run simultaneously & independently. A (minimum) 150 GB HD is required (250 GB is recommended), and 2 GB RAM (minimum) should you wish to run more than one OS. Dual processors are required for optimum performance, though this may change in 10.5.1 or 10.5.2.
3. DiskWarrior (in lieu of TechTool) will be bundled with 10.5 if one chooses Apple Care or extends their current Apple Care contract. I don’t know the pricing or specific details, though Apple Care for older machines will increase significantly with the machine’s age. Machines over 6 years old (from date of mfgr.) are not eligible.
4. Safari will include editable Helpers. Safari Tabs can be assigned colors. Safari will be about 37% faster (YMMV). The default for Safari bookmarks will now be alphabetical by folder. Safari will include configurable parental controls (for those who want configured parents). Safari will now import Firefox and Camino bookmarks. Also, there are 12 new Safari “skins”.
5. The Dock will be much different. One new feature is that as icons are added, they will automatically migrate/expand around the screen as needed (or, you can reduce the size of the icons as presently done). Also, multiple docks are an option as is the amount of “bounce” desired in those dock apps launching or needing your attention. There is an accompanying bounce sound, a boing-boing sort of thing.
6. Hooks are built-in to support an Apple PDA, but I can say no more.
7. All Metadata will be editable.
8. You can have 3 ‘Finder’ windows open simultaneously, much like having 3 displays, all running different applications or OS’s. If networked, any 3 computers can be displayed. Depending on the function/application, you can even Drag & Drop between displays. Password or Admin. privileges are required. (see #2 above).
9. Widgets can run on any or all of your open windows, similar to the way Stickies can be placed anywhere.
10. Terminal has balloons that will appear with alerts/warning notes should you wish to do something that you will (later) wish you hadn’t.
11. Mail, Address Book, iCal, iSight, and iChat will become one integrated application, much like Entourage (but better). Included is a customizable Auto Responder and voice activated dialing via numbers or Address Book names. You will be able to automatically send email & initiate iSight meetings, etc. that are linked/pegged to specific calendar events. This feature is called AutoPilot (see #6 above).
12. Voice recognition/security has returned as an option (see #6 above). Note: Use with caution. I am still not certain this will make the final release (it’s still a bit buggy); perhaps delayed until 10.5.1.
13. An across the board speed increase of 35 - 40%. YMMV.
14. Font, Printer, and User Preference (.plist) repair routines are built-in and are schedulable.
15. Sherlock has been eliminated (use Widgets instead).
16. When Repairing Permissions, the “We are using special permissions…” will no longer be displayed. Finally!
17. Airport (Extreme only) will notify you via the airport icon flashing in the menu bar if your signal is being hijacked or used by anyone other than you authorized.
18. Startups, Restarts, & User Switching will be exactly as the User left the machine; open apps, window positions, network connections, etc. will all be reestablished.
19. Bundled with Leopard is a small app called “TrashBack”, a program to recover deleted files. Of course, the sooner one uses it after trashing the better.
20. Numerous (other) bug fixes, including a totally rewritten Spotlight.
Leopard will be previewed in June at the WWDC and released in early November. - Macintosh, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10This was originally posted on Aprils 1st, alas being false.
Please report as inaccurate. - TimmyGUNZ, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Agreed. I don't think we'll see anything completely Visa-killing until at least 10.6 or 10.7, or even when they go to OS XI.
Based on the past experiences with Microsoft, if they try and rush out an OS upgrade from Vista to compete with huge Apple advances, it will be a disaster. (See Windows ME).
I think Apple definitely is in good shape to increase their market-share, but it will be a few more years before they can even hope to enter double digits. Also a Mac user, I'm fine with that. - deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Just make some ***** up. That's all this article is.
OSX 10.5 will include a golden ticket that will allow you to take a magical tour of the Apple computer factory.
OSX 10.5 will make your computer 18 times faster.
OSX 10.5 will end the war in Iraq and bring peace to our troubled nation
OSX 10.5 will support the ability to travel through time but ONLY if you have 4GB of ram. - pgib, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Disclosure Agreement (NDA) with Apple precludes me from revealing proprietary detail, but because most, if not all, of this is posted elsewhere and is commonly available, I have no problems with confirming the following. Still, please don’t quote me.
1. Leopard supports OS 9.x, as is done with Tiger, but OS 8 and earlier will not be officially supported. Legacy apps may still work, but Apple just won’t support them.
2. During the Leopard install, you are given the option to create specific partitioning to accommodate M$ Vista and Linux. Reformatting your HD is not required. Depending on your processor and RAM, all OS’s can run simultaneously & independently. A (minimum) 150 GB HD is required (250 GB is recommended), and 2 GB RAM (minimum) should you wish to run more than one OS. Dual processors are required for optimum performance, though this may change in 10.5.1 or 10.5.2.
3. DiskWarrior (in lieu of TechTool) will be bundled with 10.5 if one chooses Apple Care or extends their current Apple Care contract. I don’t know the pricing or specific details, though Apple Care for older machines will increase significantly with the machine’s age. Machines over 6 years old (from date of mfgr.) are not eligible.
4. Safari will include editable Helpers. Safari Tabs can be assigned colors. Safari will be about 37% faster (YMMV). The default for Safari bookmarks will now be alphabetical by folder. Safari will include configurable parental controls (for those who want configured parents). Safari will now import Firefox and Camino bookmarks. Also, there are 12 new Safari “skins”.
5. The Dock will be much different. One new feature is that as icons are added, they will automatically migrate/expand around the screen as needed (or, you can reduce the size of the icons as presently done). Also, multiple docks are an option as is the amount of “bounce” desired in those dock apps launching or needing your attention. There is an accompanying bounce sound, a boing-boing sort of thing.
6. Hooks are built-in to support an Apple PDA, but I can say no more.
7. All Metadata will be editable.
8. You can have 3 ‘Finder’ windows open simultaneously, much like having 3 displays, all running different applications or OS’s. If networked, any 3 computers can be displayed. Depending on the function/application, you can even Drag & Drop between displays. Password or Admin. privileges are required. (see #2 above).
9. Widgets can run on any or all of your open windows, similar to the way Stickies can be placed anywhere.
10. Terminal has balloons that will appear with alerts/warning notes should you wish to do something that you will (later) wish you hadn’t.
11. Mail, Address Book, iCal, iSight, and iChat will become one integrated application, much like Entourage (but better). Included is a customizable Auto Responder and voice activated dialing via numbers or Address Book names. You will be able to automatically send email & initiate iSight meetings, etc. that are linked/pegged to specific calendar events. This feature is called AutoPilot (see #6 above).
12. Voice recognition/security has returned as an option (see #6 above). Note: Use with caution. I am still not certain this will make the final release (it’s still a bit buggy); perhaps delayed until 10.5.1.
13. An across the board speed increase of 35 - 40%. YMMV.
14. Font, Printer, and User Preference (.plist) repair routines are built-in and are schedulable.
15. Sherlock has been eliminated (use Widgets instead).
16. When Repairing Permissions, the “We are using special permissions…” will no longer be displayed. Finally!
17. Airport (Extreme only) will notify you via the airport icon flashing in the menu bar if your signal is being hijacked or used by anyone other than you authorized.
18. Startups, Restarts, & User Switching will be exactly as the User left the machine; open apps, window positions, network connections, etc. will all be reestablished.
19. Bundled with Leopard is a small app called “TrashBack”, a program to recover deleted files. Of course, the sooner one uses it after trashing the better.
20. Numerous (other) bug fixes, including a totally rewritten Spotlight.
Leopard will be previewed in June at the WWDC and released in early November. - spectre_25gt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Care to tell me what advances XP brought to 2000 that were greater than what's listed in that article?
Don't forget, this article only lists 20 items that are still rumors. Tiger had some 200 new features or improvements over Panther. I'd say you can expect the same with Leopard. Oh, and I'd say rewriting spotlight probably isn't a trivial task. - eridius, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8stilldavid: it's not like caching 2GB of RAM will balloon to 30GB once it's on disk.
- The_Decryptor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"I paid $100 for XP over 3 years ago and Linux costs nothing. Why you people give Apple $130 every year for MacOS X 10.x is beyond me."
Over here, the cost of Windows XP Pro (since Home sucks) is still around $600, so $199 (i paid $120) every year and a bit (now) ends up cheaper than XP, especially if your counting multiple computers, add another $600 for each copy of windows, but only a tad more than the default cost for 5 copies of OS X - tommythetomcat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Apple rumors always seem to be that they are better at something than someone else.
Does Apple ever drop the ball? - mbiesz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6You two seem to be agreeing about different things. The original poster said that Vista will become the dominant OS in 95% of computer systems because Microsoft essentially has control over 95% of all computers. No matter how great Apple's OS is, it will not impact market share very much unless Apple adjusts their marketing and strategies.
- jrkagan, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13apple-related rumors + unknown website + no source = no digg
- Escamillo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7This was an April Fool's joke:
http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.php?t=291048 - Dalhectar, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12And Apple will be very happy to sell everyone a new Mac to meet those requirements. But considering the Vista recommendations, it makes sense to me.
- thinkdifferent, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7"Mail, Address Book, iCal, iSight, and iChat will become one integrated application"
Ugh... that's one of the things that drives me crazy about Outlook. Calendar and mail apps are very different beasts & don't make sense to go in a single app. While your calendar may want to be able to communicate via email for meeting invites, the way it works now with Mail & iCal is adequate & doesn't create a bloat app like Outlook. - PathDaemon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Expect people to pay $130? last I checked (now) Windows cost $300
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=314687&pfp=cat3
Don't say that it's the "Professional" version: Apple just doesn't make a Home edition. - bambam43410, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Website died. can someone post the finer points of the article?
- Space_Balls, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5yes, exactly. People are giving way to much credibility to this "source"
Also, I highly doubt that Apple would integrate Mail, iCal, Address book etc. into one application. their interfaces are very clean as is and not bloated ala Outlook/Entourage. - edogg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm a little skeptical of this "feature list". I guess one glaring thing that made me think twice is that the author doesn't even know when WWDC is. He says June, but Apple says Aug 7 - 11.
- cal0001, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4yea it's fake
- jeromeerome, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I think it is great that after you reboot your system all your finder windows, applications, and network drives resume back to the state you left them in previously. I know you don't need to reboot the mac very often but for those rare occasions when you do this will come in handy.
- white, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Does this article say that Apple is going to make a PDA? You know how he mentions hooks to a PDA....
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I totally agree, one of the thinks I have always loved about OS X was that these kinds of applications were independent. But then again I will believe nothing until I see it with my own eyes.
- compwizz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3There, I tagged it as inaccurate for you. I am giving your last comment a negative digg though, now your just being an ass.
- XxUNDEROATHxX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3theres about 5 different sources in here...And if those aret good enough, like 5 people have posted the text in here, and if that isnt good enough, you should get the Cacheout plugin for Firefox...Uses google cache automatically...
- cduquette, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Konqueror is a great file browser. It does split view, which is great for drag and dropping and also has spring loaded folders, which means if you're holding a file over the folder it'll open to the next directory then when you release it goes back to the default. This is of course in Finder I believe too.
Nautilus isn't bad either, it's getting there. The new built in search using Beagle for a backend is great, it's got emblem support which surprisingly comes in handy and it doesn't create a .directory file in every directory like Konqueror does... - Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Sherlock has been eliminated? Curse you, Professor Moriarty!
- jk_baller23, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What if the joke becomes reality???
Can't wait to see Leopard in Aug. - Bigcat1021, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2How timely:
http://daringfireball.net/2006/04/repair_permissions_voodoo - imjustabill, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Should read "list of 20 POSSIBLE features for Apple's OSX"
Spelling and grammar are your friend - A-money, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3already can stop the icons from bouncing, its in the dock preferences.
- spectre_25gt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm with you. I never go into these types of stories expecting that everything is going to be accurate (or even close), but it's fun to think about things like this. It brings different ideas to mind.
Some people read fictional novels. I read fictional Apple news reports :) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"I paid $100 for XP over 3 years ago and Linux costs nothing. Why you people give Apple $130 every year for MacOS X 10.x is beyond me."
And what significant upgrades has Microsoft put out for XP since it was released? SP1 and SP2 were both primarily bug fix / security patch updates, with few noteworthy new features. Has Microsoft worked to make XP faster? No. Have they added significant new value or productivity to XP? No. Am I a Mac fanboy? No. I don't even own a Mac. But I can certainly see the value in Apple's OS upgrades. With Apple, bug fixes and security patches are also free downloads, but significant new features or enhancements are charged for when they've accumulated enough of them to make a worthy new product. What's wrong with that? I'd gladly pay for a new OS from Microsoft every year if they actually added anything of real value to it. - conto1987, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7I don't think it matters whether or not it will blow the socks off of vista, Vista is going to bet the next operating system for 95% percent of people in the world and unless apple wants to change this the same 5% of people are going to buy there computers or software. These OSX upgrades just aren't significant enough, and as a mac owners im fine with that
- spectre_25gt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I totally agree here. My heart sunk a little when I read that one. I loved the way all of those apps were separate but could share information between each other. It made things very quick when you only wanted to look up an address but not send an email, or if you wanted to mail someone, but don't need your calendar going at the same time.
- stilldavid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4maybe in order to do live os switching, it caches the RAM on the disk so as not to eat it up with multiple OSs running, hence the large amounts of space needed. Just a thought...
- spectre_25gt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The article mentioned something about applications that were built for OS 8. I don't know anything about Mac classic, but it seems like they're talking about application support rather than OS support. I guess that wouldn't make a whole lot of sense, though, because you're still running OS 9 to run the apps, right?
- s0ny, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Well if you think about it, if they are allowing you to run OS X, and 2 other operating systems in virtualization at the same time 1.5-2 gigs of RAM is about what you would need for OS X, Windows, and say Linux. The disk requirements are a little out there but I dont think it will be "150GB OR YOU CANNOT PASS", just more of a guideline for best performance...
I am excited if its true about the Safari additions and the ability to limit the damn bouncing dock icons! - bieber, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Given that you can't even remember the names of the programs used to browse files in KDE and GNOME, I think it's safe to say you're not terribly knowledgable about them. Allow me to enlighten you.
Konqueror, the KDE file/web browser, is an _extremely_ effective filesystem browser (although a pretty shoddy web browser. But hey, what file browser isn't?) which incorporates all the standard features found in other operating systems, along with a great number of original features I have yet to see anywhere else. Like tabs. We've been keeping multiple locations open in the same window with web browsers for ages, why not in file browsers? Makes it an awful lot easier to drag and drop between far apart locations in the filesystem when you can have them both in tabs in the same window, instead of in seperate windows, buried somewhere on the screen.
Nautilus, the GNOME file/web browser (why does everyone have to try and combine the two??), well, it works well enough. It's nothing special, but it works just as well as Windows Explorer or Finder. - jeromeerome, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I did not understand why that had such high requirements either. You are correct. This would eliminate most existing systems unless they upgrade their components.
- AtomB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This only applies to running more than one OS at the same time. You will still be able to boot into different Os's just not run them all at once and switch back and forth on the fly.
- TimmyGUNZ, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5They pretty much already are tied together. Mail, Address Book, iCal and iChat all pull information on your contacts from the same source.
That being said, judging from what Apple has done in the past, I'm sure they will do this right and not make it a huge, bulky mess like Outlook. - jasongetsdown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1the finder has already been improved, just not by apple :) try pathfinder. http://www.cocoatech.com/
Its got tabs, bread crumbs, a configurable sidebar, suped up file info and preview panes, terminal in a drawer, "power select" (select files matching given parameters), and a novel feature called the drop stack which acts like a shelf that you can drag files into (stack style, last in first out) and then drag them out.
Take that Finder/Explorer/Nautilus/Konqueror! -
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