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- llsethj, on 12/25/2007, -10/+228Apple wants not to get sued
- LordSkywalker, on 12/25/2007, -6/+132I don't care as long there is the option to disable it.
- AriaStar, on 12/25/2007, -7/+109If you're dumb enough to ruin your hearing, you lose the right to sue. If I die driving 110 on ice in a Sebring convertible, Chrysler's not at fault. God damn, people need to take responsibility for their choices. This ***** gives the government reason to control every aspect of our lives "for our own good.'
- theinept, on 12/25/2007, -5/+105If people are worried about their ears, then they should ditch the terrible stock iPod headphones and pick up a pair of in-ear monitors of the sort manufactured by Westone, Etymotic Research, Shure, etc. The only situation in which you'd ever need to listen to your music at dangerous volumes is when you want to drown out ambient sound - why not eliminate the ambient sound entirely?
When I'm on the bus, I can hear people's headphones turned up at what must be the absolute maximum in an effort to drown out the engine's noise. I can identify what songs they're listening to and sing along! With my Westones (UM1), though, I listen to my portable music device (once an iPod, now a woot! Zune) at about 1/10th of the maximum and I can sit right on top of the diesel engine.
The headphones do an excellent job blocking external noise, are much more sensitive and sound ten times better. Higher quality sound, total environmental isolation and safe listening volumes. They're a little pricy for portable headphones but worth it and more. - HA5TY, on 12/25/2007, -0/+51so what happens when u want to play it through a speaker?
- eridius, on 12/25/2007, -1/+37Just because Apple gets a patent doesn't mean they intend on actually putting it in a product. They've gotten many patents over the years that have never actually been used.
- mattisallama, on 12/25/2007, -3/+31Like it or not, it's probably a good idea. I often find I am listening to music a bit too loud. It better be possible to disable this option though. Hopefully it acts as more of a guideline or reminder.
- muniak, on 12/25/2007, -5/+31"and reduce the volume for a 'quiet time' before allowing you to increase the sound to full volume again." It doesn't sound like a warning... it sounds like you wont get a say in the matter.
- ivankraszl, on 12/25/2007, -18/+43This is great. I always worry for my hearing. I think its a good idea to warn users that they are in a dangerous zone.
- Alegoo92, on 12/25/2007, -2/+22Or when you're already partially deaf and therefore need the music to be loud to hear it in the first place!
- quaxon, on 12/25/2007, -0/+19living in a big city with a good public transport system is light years better than having to drive a car, pay for gas and find parking everyday.
- link5280, on 12/25/2007, -0/+19Hmmm. how about they include noise canceling earphones with the iPods, then people wouldn't have to crank the volume up to overcome background noise.
- Audacitor, on 12/25/2007, -0/+18Okay...where's the link, then?
- PRlME, on 12/25/2007, -0/+17Apple has to lower the volume on the pods cause government/health says you will damage your ears. But what about Drinking and Smoking? Why dont government do any thing about that?
PS my lil bro plays the thing so loud he was crossing the street one day i had to pull him back else he would of been hit by a car. - Derelict267, on 12/25/2007, -2/+19When I plug my ipod in my car I have to turn it up all the way to have it at a normal volume on my stereo. Hopefully they will make the volume adjusting an option only.
- ChromaVita, on 12/25/2007, -3/+17What happens when you have crappy headphones, and the loudest setting barely cuts it as is? Or when you're listening to it through your car speakers?
- osage, on 12/25/2007, -2/+14Loudness is the subjective quality of sound of great intensity.
SOSUME - Niightwitch, on 12/25/2007, -1/+12And maybe your little bro is too young to realize the dangers of too loud music and hearing loss, or is too young to care. I think this is a good idea to protect kids because once your hearing is gone, it's gone.
- Dotcommer, on 12/25/2007, -0/+10Note to self: Invest in hearing aids. Market will be booming soon.
- AmICoolNow, on 12/25/2007, -0/+10Booming? Is that a pun?
- Scatropolis, on 12/25/2007, -2/+12http://digg.com/apple/Like_it_or_not_Apple_wants_t ...
- Namakemono, on 12/25/2007, -0/+10What did they say?
- sodoh, on 12/25/2007, -1/+9The problem isn't only with how you set the volume. The recording industry intentionally boost the sound of the song which in turn kills the overall song. There is a youtube clip on it somewhere.
- kingfoot, on 12/25/2007, -4/+11You know, I think this is a good idea, but they CAN'T be that stupid to make it not an option to turn on or off. I mean, I use my ipod all the time in class and stuff, but I also use it a lot while driving. I plug it into my tapedeck that plugs into any headphone jack so I can listen to my music with my vintage 1989 state-of-the-art radio/tapedeck, which of course requires me to turn the volume up quite loud. So, if they make it an option to turn on/off, I welcome this feature.
- FoxOrian, on 12/25/2007, -0/+7I actually wouldnt mind it if they developed ambient sound detection to automatically adjust the volume based on your surroundings, sort of like how the MacBook Pro adjusts brightness based on lighting conditions. Sometimes when I'm in the subway, I crank the volume, then when getting off at my stop, it's usually quiet up on the street and it takes me a minute to realize that my music was WAY too loud, and have to turn it down.
[I actually use the volume limiter on my iPhone, to keep from hurting myself when I accidentally press the volume up button when I slide it out of my case.] - DatumPirate, on 12/25/2007, -1/+7I can hear the buries coming, but the Zune did it. The new Zune 80 comes with the premium, noise reducing headphones.
- gdgi, on 12/25/2007, -1/+7govt should pass a law that allows people to beat the ***** out of anyone blasting music so loud in their fukin ipod that you can hear every single word being said / sung.
that would learn them quick ;} - BlaenkDenum, on 12/25/2007, -7/+12But that would defeat the purpose. There's already a way to limit the volume. What Jobs is talking about is meant to be whether the listener likes it or not, for 'their protection'.
- inactive, on 12/25/2007, -1/+6that's kinda cool; also when you listen to music over a long period of time, it usually tends to sound slightly lower after a while anyway
(not from fanboy.) - happyseamonster, on 12/25/2007, -0/+5Studies have shown that sound blocking ear buds cause the user to use a lower volume, thus saving hearing. The ones that come with an iPod for example, don't block much outside noise, so people turn up the volume.
- SlpingInsomniac, on 12/25/2007, -1/+6No, actually, it wouldn't defeat the purpose.
- captainchris, on 12/25/2007, -3/+8millions of people apparently...
- lukasmach, on 12/25/2007, -0/+4http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_impedance
- pintomp3, on 12/25/2007, -0/+4haha, you shell out tons of money to sit in traffic while i get sit, listen to music, and read while someone else does the driving.
- inactive, on 12/25/2007, -2/+6RICK ROLL!!!!
- johnpaul191, on 12/25/2007, -0/+4I wish this existed in the 80s.... or 90s. I'm 33 and i know a LOT of people that have permanent hearing damage as a result of their walkman and riding the bus. They were young at the time and did not anticipate the effects since they just get worse and worse as they get older. If it doesn't immediately hurt you, people assume it's not a big deal. You are also dealing with kids that don't realize what they are doing.
That's probably why so many people still smoke, yet are surprised when one day they have cancer. - happyseamonster, on 12/25/2007, -0/+4You use an external amplifier...
- D3koy, on 12/25/2007, -1/+5How about making headphones that don't go so loud? Nothing is more bothersome than some jackass across the room who assumes that everyone wants to hear their ***** music....
- isunktheship, on 12/25/2007, -0/+4how are your children btw?
- stalefries, on 12/25/2007, -2/+6*SOSUMI
- inactive, on 12/25/2007, -1/+5While I think the "auto volume reduction" feature is kind of a pain in the ass I applaud Apple for being proactive in their approach to the hearing damage issue. Remember, Apple fans will file class action lawsuits because Apple doesn't manufacture enough iPod Minis for Christmas. I say get over it. There are more important things in your life.
- da_bradler, on 12/25/2007, -0/+3Well that's completely stupid because anybody who knows anything about headphones knows that all headphones have different Impedance ratings thus meaning different headphones require different amounts of power, the music might be loud on little ***** eardrum headphones, but what if I want to wear a average pair of full sized sennheiser headphones? I mean hell as it is I already have to carry around a portable amp with my ipod, what now I'm gonna have to carry around two?
- iticu, on 12/25/2007, -0/+3Shame you're not going to be able to hear the music in old age.
- ElectroBot, on 12/25/2007, -0/+3Get better head phones - you can get a decent pair for around $15-$20 and a really good pair for $50 if you look around.
- inactive, on 12/25/2007, -4/+7In my case I am legally deaf, but if turn up my ipod all the way i can make out the music, so i hope this is an option, but apple is famous for thinking they know whats best instead of letting the consumer decide. how long did mac users have to wait for a right mouse button because apple thought people woud be confused by it?
- Niightwitch, on 12/25/2007, -2/+5If it's kept as just an option, kids (who I see this feature as mainly for their protection) will disable it and then it won't be any protection for them. Kids sometimes need to be protected from bad choices like playing their music too loud, and this is one of the times they need protecting because once your hearing is gone, it's gone.
- Niightwitch, on 12/25/2007, -1/+4Yes, because you're going deaf from listening to it too loud.
- Aidje, on 12/25/2007, -0/+3It's "The Loudness War": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ
I'm actually not sure that I agree with the idea expressed in this clip; the "punch" in the original makes me feel like my ears are recoiling. I might prefer the more uniform volume. But I'm not sure what I think of the issue. - gavin422, on 12/25/2007, -0/+3Well, regardless of whether you like the uniform volume or the punch, the loudness war is hurting the quality of music being released nowadays. There's so much clipping in each album, it's almost ridiculous. Just look at the Red Hot Chili Peppers' Californication for an example.
- Jholder112233, on 12/25/2007, -1/+4Still not over the translucent menu bar in leopard? Sheesh, its grown on me.
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