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- inactive, on 10/30/2007, -60/+228Until Apple releases an OS that doesn't require you to own an Apple computer to use (without hacking something together), they won't be embarassing anyone.
- DaffyDuck, on 10/30/2007, -4/+130I'm loving Leopard on my MacBook Pro at home but I am not blind to reality as you (writer of this fan diatribe) obviously are. There is no way Leopard will outsell Vista. It might do so for some slice of time but taking into account the lifespan of both OS's, Leopard will only sell a small fraction of the number that Vista will. This article is just an Apple lover pipe dream.
Enterprise: Entrenched into Windows by custom apps and hardware contracts.
3rd world countries: Usually cannot afford Mac hardware and Windows is often deeply discounted.
I know in some countries Mac hardware costs way more than it does here in the US. Now, all of these people aren't going to upgrade to Vista right away but they will eventually and by that time Microsoft may have actually solved some of its problems. - inactive, on 10/31/2007, -17/+124I just bought a copy of Leopard. It is a good week with Guitar Hero III sitting next to my Nintendo Wii and Ron Paul gaining support every day.
(Mention of Apple ... check.)
(Mention of Wii... check.)
(Mention of Ron Paul... check.)
(Mention of hatred of Microsoft... missed.)
(Mention of hatred of GW Bush... missed.)
Bill Gates & Bush can go to hell. Is that a good digg comment, now? - danbiz3, on 10/31/2007, -51/+153I think the funniest thing is Microsoft already showing off Windows 7. They spent 5 years on Vista and it was originally hailed as the giant leap 3.1 to 95 was. As they started missing deadlines they axed features, most notably WinFS, which very well may have saved Vista. Finally in January it's released with very little hype, with a half dozen different versions and extremely overpriced. The public saw no reason to install Vista on existing computers, not only because of numerous compatibility problems, but also because XP has worked fine since SP2; not to mention Vista has no big features the general public cares about (I do think instant search is nice, but we've had it for over two years). The only copies of Vista being sold are coming bundled on new PC's and most people would rather just have XP. Apple has made all the right moves and Leopard is a crowning achievement in every respect. Microsoft has to start making better decisions if they want to hold their market because from the looks of it Apple is schooling them.
- MioTheGreat, on 10/31/2007, -9/+64From a technology standpoint, Vista is probably the largest Windows release Microsoft has ever put out. Sure the leaps from, let's say 9x to NT were pretty damned big, but Windows wasn't nearly as complex of a beast as it is now.
The leap from XP to Vista was gigantic. They're now enforcing new (And thus far very effective) security paradigms. Drivers are being shoved out of the kernel and into user-land. Win32/GDI/etc. are being slowly phased out in favor of better more extensible technologies (.NET/WPF, etc.)
And a note on WinFS (You had to bring it up, didn't you?).WinFS was a database layer sitting on top of NTFS, not a filesystem, and virtually all of its tasks have been assimilated nicely by the Indexer. It would have done some things better, certainly, but overall the indexer is more than adequate, and I'm not sure they would have gotten WinFS's peformance good enough by Vista's release. - Gustomucho, on 10/30/2007, -26/+68My thought exactly. Why can't they do an OS for PC ? Yeah, that's right because they can only program for a limited type of hardware : theirs. Apple U.S market share : 5.6%.
- dpcamp, on 10/30/2007, -9/+49thats odd, i've had vista since it was released from technet.. same installation.
maybe its IO error... - richardiscool, on 10/31/2007, -5/+43OS X has a UAC-like system too, as do most Unix derived OS
- MioTheGreat, on 10/30/2007, -4/+38At least 70% of Windows crashes are caused by 3rd party kernel mode drivers. If OSX was subjected to the same staggering amount of hardware that Windows supports, I doubt it would fare much better.
- Meatpuppet79, on 10/30/2007, -8/+42In just over 9 months of running Vista, I have had to reinstall it a grand total of 0 times. You may be exaggerating, very unlucky or you just may be someone who has no clue how to maintain his computer (with regards to repelling spyware/viruses/malware)
- DaffyDuck, on 10/30/2007, -9/+39"Leopard should definitely outsell Vista."
Should and will are 2 different things. I strongly feel that OS X is technically superior to Windows (which is why I use it when possible) but Beta was technically superior to VHS and look what happened there. - DaffyDuck, on 10/30/2007, -14/+43Stepped a bit too far into the RDF, have you?
- MonsterChaOS, on 10/30/2007, -4/+28I think its that infamous ID10T error.
- inactive, on 10/30/2007, -3/+27Because they are a hardware company.
- 4degrees, on 10/30/2007, -20/+44(/obligitory)
to hell with these two, go linux. - m4sterofmurd3r, on 10/30/2007, -5/+28lol somebody put a dash too much crazy in their coffee today
- MioTheGreat, on 10/30/2007, -6/+29Then you're doing something wrong....
- bullhead2007, on 10/30/2007, -12/+34Funny. I built my computer from scratch and bought Vista seperately.
I am enjoying it much more than XP. It's the most stable version of windows I've used (before a service pack of course. XP wasn't as stable at release despite the internet hate for Vista.) - majortom1981, on 10/30/2007, -12/+33Aam I the only one who has had no problems with vista? My experience is that everybody is blaming vista for horrible third party software and drivers.
IF the next version is a major change then vista there will be even more problems.
SXometimes I think people absh microsoft just because. People should place more of the blame with the people who write the drivers. - EvilWalksWithMe, on 10/30/2007, -6/+27Holy *****... LOGIC! Where am I? This can't be Digg!
- bullhead2007, on 10/30/2007, -8/+28Yes. Let's compare an operating system that only has to work with a few Apple made devices and a few video cards, with an operating system that has to work with millions of different configurations.
I've been running Vista since May, on a completely custom made box that I put together. Yes imagine that I selected the mother board, RAM, CPU, Case, PSU, Hard Drives, Video Card etc all by myself and put it together. I'm tempted to install the Leopard hack to see how stable it is on such a system.
Granted it's running on Unix as a back end, and that lends greatly to its stability. I love Unix and Linux, and they are definitely more stable than windows when you have working drivers. However, I need Vista to play all the games I want, and use all the software I want. It's sad but true.
Vista is pretty damn stable for me. I have had 0 issues with it. Also the UAC thing is not a big deal. All you have to do is turn it off if it annoys you, like I did. My biggest complaint about Vista is the patch that forces signed drivers unless you F8 before startup to turn it off. - Darcy, on 10/30/2007, -3/+23"Leopard should definitely outsell Vista"
Vista has been selling at around 10 million copies per month, Apple have been selling about 2 million macs per quarter. So I very much doubt Leopard will be outselling Vista any time soon. - protogenxl, on 10/30/2007, -9/+28OS X is still OS X. Leopard is not some massive innovation that will spark a revolution, It is an expansion pack. So Settle Down Beavis.
- miniboss, on 10/30/2007, -6/+25Most Vista users are happy. The recent outpouring of FUD is almost entirely by people very very limited or zero experience on it. I'm not saying it lived up to its hype, but it's far from being the ticking time bomb that people want it to be.
I think its just pathetic that Mac users obsess so much over a "competing" OS. And i put quotes around 'competing' because Apple and MS are competitors. To see so many end users acting like Apple employees is just so sad. There really is nothing better to do with your free time but defend one billion dollar company and attack another billion dollar company? Wake up, NEITHER of them care about you as much as you care about them. - natenovs, on 10/30/2007, -6/+25I'm sick of people exaggerating. you just sound like a fool.
- EvilWalksWithMe, on 10/30/2007, -11/+28My install runs fine. Always has... since launch. Although OSX on my mac runs sweet too, Vista is my preference.
- CLShortFuse, on 10/30/2007, -0/+17Very good. It seems you are starting to fully understand how the Digg comment system works.
By the way, needs a bit more Sony, AT&T and/or Verizon bashing - EvilWalksWithMe, on 10/30/2007, -1/+16Hell, I'd buy it for my PC's if Apple would release it...
- xdeliriumx, on 10/30/2007, -6/+21I have been running Vista fine with no problems at all. I actually like it much more than XP. Apple fanboys need to actually try the ***** software before creating some bias based on what some other apple fanboy douche posted on their blog.
And to be clear I think Apple is a great company and Leopard is great. People need to get down off their horse and realize that they are two different things and both deserve credit. - Beto0707, on 10/30/2007, -2/+17Microsoft may be even more embarrassed than you for not knowing how to spell such an embarrassing word. (Yes, digg spell checker does know how to spell this word.)
- TheSabre, on 10/30/2007, -0/+15You could have just switched to the classic start menu.
- SanTe, on 10/30/2007, -0/+15"You do understand WinFS stands for Windows File System, right?"
No, and it never did. WinFS means, and has always meant, "Windows Future Storage": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinFS - shanehonda, on 05/19/2009, -2/+16I think people are unjustly harsh on Vista. I'm running Leopard and Vista on my Mac Pro and I like both of them quite a lot. I honestly haven't seen any problems with Vista at all. I think it's a big improvement... still not as good as Mac OS but a good step in the right direction.
- TheSabre, on 10/30/2007, -4/+18This was a problem a few months ago. Then they put out a patch to fix it over the summer. My network shares load as fast as a local folder. Maybe it's your network...
- libertarian2008, on 10/30/2007, -2/+16Since Leopard doesn't run on any other hardware does the author expect the Mac sales to outnumber the PC sales?
- effedup, on 10/30/2007, -12/+26Ubuntu filled the need for a new OS and saved me thousands on hardware. I agree, to hell with them both.
- MioTheGreat, on 10/30/2007, -6/+20Absolutely correct.
Despite all of the 'outcry' I hear on Vista, even those who actually remember XP's release are forced to admit that Vista is faring much better than it did at release. - jonsimo, on 10/30/2007, -16/+29OS X has its problems, much like every other operating system in existence, but FAR fewer problems than that of Vista.
A winner in my book. - lordtyros, on 10/30/2007, -7/+20I can't say I've read a more idiotic article this week.
- MioTheGreat, on 10/31/2007, -3/+16It's not as interactive or automatic as UAC...
It's less used, because on the *nix's and BSDs, LUA has always been pretty strictly enforced, and while 'encouraged' by Microsoft, they've never really been big on enforcing LUA until now.
But UAC has a few neat features behind it that other OS's don't. The secure desktop, for instance, prevents the need to enter a password into the prompt by ensuring (Thanks in part to UIPI and session isolation) that input on the dialog cannot be falsified by software. Then there's the ability to automatically run processes in lower integrity levels, like IE. - malechi, on 10/31/2007, -9/+22VISTA should be listed among the dozens of product recalls already made this year. Even Linux is making headway because of it. Microsoft doesn't need technical advisers, it needs people skills. They obviously don't know their customers and depend on their monopoly to carry them through. It's worked for years, but people are finally seeing the alternatives. No shame in enjoying a Windows machine, but quality makes a difference.
- Gustomucho, on 10/30/2007, -5/+17http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/07/18/appl ...
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Back up your claim or I call BS on you. July 18 2007, if they raised 2.4% in such a short time I would be more than surprised. - crobathias, on 10/30/2007, -0/+12don't forget Comcast!
- ez12a, on 10/30/2007, -0/+12Apple is perfectly content on keeping OSX on the Apple platform, as long as their market share increases, even if by 1%. If they sell more Macs due to people switching from Vista and to Leopard, they win.
And it is logically impossible Leopard will outsell vista. Their marketshare is a small fraction comapred to Microsofts = less Macs than windows based PCs = less copies of leopard sold. Its common sense people. The wont sell hundreds of copies of leopard for computers that don't exist. - andywebb95, on 10/30/2007, -6/+18I agree.
IMHO if Apple REALLY wants to start stealing market share away from MSFT start selling a version of OSX that will run on any x86 platform (not just Apple's own machines). - Ramble, on 10/30/2007, -2/+14Use the search numbnuts. No-one looks through the start menu when there is the superior search present.
- raynar, on 10/30/2007, -2/+13The chair to keyboard interface needs a little attention.
- JimSwarthow, on 10/30/2007, -5/+16some surveys show Apple's market-share is finally larger than the margin-of-error of said surveys and like so many lemmings, the drones start squirting out of the woodwork all crazy-eyed and wet.. phkn hilarious
- KSUdesigner, on 10/30/2007, -2/+13I wouldn't say Apple will NEVER be used in business, as there are many businesses out there running all Macs (I work for one of those businesses). I would say that Apple will NEVER dominate the business market though.
- killerofkiller, on 10/30/2007, -0/+11seriously.. just hit windows key and type the name of the program u want... no going through menus and folders
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