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- newbill123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21As nice as the features are, the title of this digg is somewhat misleading. It's simply listing all the features that people were able to discover in the version released to paying developers. This doesn't mean that it comprehensively lists all of Leopard's new features. It's an assembly of the rumors from three different rumor sites.
My favorite is still the ZFS filesystem (though not yet fully working). My least favorite is that the Core Animation example documentation is just the tip of the iceberg of what developers should have right now; true an example is good, but I'd have expected much, much more by now. - kethraal, on 10/12/2007, -9/+21"Windows 2003 Server has had the same thing for some time now (same thing as a time machine)."
Weeelllll... let's not twist things, shall we? 1) Windows 2003 is a server OS. Leopard is a consumer OS. 2) Windows 2003 had Volume Shadow Copy. While theoretically identical in functionality, it wasn't particularly easy to use (or robust for that matter). Time Machine has, from my testing, seemed to be both more day-to-day usable and more reliable. - Capta1nA, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11plug in a hard drive
- aquax, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9My 15.4" MacBook Pro does 1440x900 which is 110.27 dpi (actually, ppi, but let's not split hairs).
A 17" MacBook Pro does 1680x1050 which is 116.54 dpi
A 13.3" MacBook does 1280x800 which is 113.49 dpi
A 17" iMac does 1440x900 which is 99.89 dpi
A 20" iMac does 1680x1050 which is 99.06 dpi
A 24" iMac does 1920x1200 which is 94.34 dpi
A 20" Apple Cinema Display is 1680x1050 which is 99.06 dpi
A 23" Apple Cinema Display is 1920x1200 which is 98.44 dpi
And finally, a 30" Apple Cinema Display is 2560x1600 which is 100.63 dpi
So as you can see, these numbers did not come directly out of my ass, and Apple's current lineup is at the very least 94 dpi, and at the most 116 dpi. - bedlam, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9If anyone is interested, the feature lemac is referencing is called Volume Shadow Copy.
- hyperpasta, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7...and cause Time Machine to serve absolutely no purpose whatsoever! Time Machine is a backup utility! Why would anyone EVER back up on the same drive?? How will that protect against drive failure??
- MoeB, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11all these features are useless if it doesn't have pr0n download acceleration.
- gmprunner, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9I don't know about everyone else, but I've seen all of these features listed on other sites for quite some time. Don't get me wrong though, they are pleasing.
- ahknight, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Nope, not acceptable under the ADC NDA. There's an addendum for prerelease software that takes several pages to say "shut up about it or we'll pull your colon out through your nose".
- kethraal, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11"Shadow copies were in the vista beta since Beta 1, long before Leopard was shown off to anyone"
I know. Vista is based off the 2K3 code base, so it's pretty logical that they're there. As I mentioned, the difference is not in the existance of parallel underlying technologies -- the difference is in their implementation and utilization. In Windows, Shadow Copies are a royal pain in the ass to set up, even for just basic functionality. The APIs for them aren't well documented either, so it's not commonly integrated into consumer apps.
On the other end of the spectrum, there's Leopard. Time Machine makes the "base" functionality easy, and (at least in my limited coding experience thus far,) the APIs make it easy to build Time Machine functionality into your app.
It's like arguing that there's nothing innovative about modern cars, since the Model-T drove on roads first. - Boondoggle, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8""Windows 2003 Server has had the same thing for some time now (same thing as a time machine)."
That is funny, because I'm pretty sure you can't access deleted contacts from outlook, via outlook using VSC in W2kS. VSC is NOT the same thing. Some of the underlying technology is similar, but TM is much more robust in terms of it's UI and integration into apps. Have you even bothered to view the demo at www.apple.com? - ricksite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+52nd hard drive...hmmm...iPod?
- jschrab, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Most data loss is not due to hardware failure but user error. Time Machine isn't a backup solution so much as it is SVN for the everyday Joe.
- SKick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I've used VLC, MPlayer, and a script for Quicktime to enable full-screen.
It's not about effort, but paying full price for an operating system that fails to offer fullscreen playback of media out of the box with its default media player.
"But, well, actually searching for a solution is effort, eh? :)"
I don't believe I mentioned anything that would insinuate a lack of effort to find a solution. Of course, creating an insult that makes sense would require effort, right? :) - maverick808, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You can also use a network drive, which means no plugging in anything for your Apple laptop.
- soogy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Yep. The title of this article leads me on to believe that new features were added in THIS specific build, which is untrue. All of the features listed have already been announced for quite some time now.
- synystar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Resolution independence means that you can specify an element by it's true size. You can say 1in and it will be 1in regardless of which resolution you have chosen. An element at that size won't appear smaller at a higher resolution ... it's still just 1in.
- griz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3What every happened to abiding by an NDA?
- ahknight, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4That's a software lockout. Ain't no way they'll do it. Of course, you could just use VLC or one of the many, many free QuickTime player programs for the Mac that do fullscreen without making you get QT Pro.
But, well, actually searching for a solution is effort, eh? :) - mochaman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3This is not the complete list.
When MWSF rolls in Jan you'll get the full scoop.
Stay tune! - synystar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Game comment. And you played the "noob" card. Why do you ask a question that you know the answer?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Most of them are just generic ones that are almost worthless - a new installer, more screensavers, improved parental controls. I'm underwhelmed.
- sembetu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well, there has been talk of Apple possibly using the new 100GB Toshiba Mini Drives as additional storage in their laptops. Could be a total solution in progress. Extra storage + small size + Time Machine = possibility? I don't know, just hazzarding a guess.
- SKick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"QuickTime:
The new version of QuickTime present in the latest build of Leopard gets improved A/V controls by extensively using the CoreVideo API."
Lets hope those improved A/V controls include full-screen support sans the Pro.
... - dashiel, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5windows back up system is just a rip off of *nix style snapshots. though useful in both windows and *nix, neither of them had an easy to understand or accessible UI. the seamless integration and easy to use interface are the innovation in this case. after all the original concept of the GUI was nothing more than putting together an intuitive shell to complex and obscure command line directives.
resolution independence has been in the system since tiger, it wasn't introduced fully to give developers time to update. and vista is the first windows release to support resolution independent UI.
these will not be all the features either. MWSF will introduce some pretty significant additions. my money is on a new finder, new UI and a massively updated .mac service for integration with iTV and the iphone. - mtappenden, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Yes... So resolution independence uses vector graphics :)
- joe90210, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9ya, right clicking on a file and clicking "Restore previous versions" is much harder than having flying windows and snazzy effects
- lemac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah but being a "laptop" a user cannot be assumed to have a hard drive connected (or a network drive for that matter) all the time....so will it only back to the point the last time a hard drive was attached (and restore only when that particular drive is connected to the laptop)...I think Apple should provide an option to make the time machine work on a parition on the same drive -- that would simply solve the problem.
- uvscwolverine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2While I agree with previous posters that yeah, this is rehashed from other rumor sites, it is nice to see it all in one list. I would also wager that while a few of the features listed were previously unannounced there will probably be more than this in the final shipping verison. Pretty well all of the features shown are things that developers would want/need to know about, hence their presence in the developer copies. But, what do I know? Maybe that's the entire feature set and I'm just off my rocker.
- Boondoggle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't think the patent apple has applied for said anything about vector graphics.
- Tawakol, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://duggmirror.com/apple/Leopard_build_9A321_all_the_new_features_listed
- amosconi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It does work on a partition.
Of course the backup partition need to be at least the same size of the main partition. - dagamer34, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2what's wrong with doing both?
- Boondoggle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Whatever happened to knowing what is under an NDA b4 spouting?
- felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I certainly hope that isn't ALL the new features. It hardly warrants a complete new name, as if it were a major upgrade to the OS, if that's all it is. And there's no way I'm paying $100+ for some file recovery and backup tools, one extra iChat feature, and extra parental controls.
Bring me an improved Finder, let me unplug my iPod or USB drive without hitting "eject," and give me a maximize button. Until then, I'm fine with Tiger. - mtappenden, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3This is looking rather nice. Resolution Independence is going to be a great feature I think, but as well as that I'm looking for ZFS to be used as the boot drive default in the final release, that would just be a huge step forward for the Mac OS. Other than that Time Machine and general improvements such as the grammar engine and the Calendaring service are going to make this a really big leap forwards for me and probably many others in their day to day use of computers. Excellent news.
- avatarpalin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I would love for Jobs to say.." and for those of you who love Porn... As much as I do, I would like to introduce one.... more.... thing.."
"iWank" - maninblac1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@funky
Just how clearly do you need to see the cooch? I think DVD is good enough ya know? - $cirisme, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The title on Digg is a bit misleading... it's not really a list of all the new features in Leopard but rather a list of all the features that have been discovered in Leopard's preview so far. I would expect more from Apple later.
And I'm not sure that's even a good description of it, they missed all the features Apple has listed so far on Apple's website. Such as the new cal dav support in iCal, or Spaces, or the universal todo service, etc.
Personally I skipped Tiger when it was released and am looking forward to all those features as well as the new Leopard ones. :) - newbill123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@Lysdexia asked: Is Mac bloat better than Windows bloat?
I think Bender has the best answer to this metaphysical query.
Fry: I'm so confused. The [OS] I liked turned out to be evil, and the [OS] I hated was good. How can I live my life when I can't tell good from evil?
Bender: They're both fine choices, whatever floats your bloat.
... or something like that. :-) - mtappenden, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah the only problem is it's not all in one list since not all the new features are listed, but it's an ok list of some of the good ones.
- gcnaddict, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1ok, killed the 404 spam error off via a misdirected ErrorDocument reference. Sorry diggers :(
- synystar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Forgot to add: that means you don't have to think of interface elements in terms of pixels anymore.
- deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The people using this build didn't sign an NDA most likely. These are fairly boring changes to the core OS. I really doubt Apples cares if they are leaked or not.
- gcnaddict, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1chmarr, I haven't changed the default 404. I actually didn't know that until now. Thanks for pointing it out.
- maninblac1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I see, well that's nifty then. Only, isn't resolution independence accomplished via some sort of vector graphics, you can't use a bitmap approach. So if i understand it, resolution independence is and application of vector graphics (though modified).
- mydigglogin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Let's hope Apple finally includes the QuickTime Pro features for free. It's probably the most annoying thing about the Mac, especially that you're forced to upgrade with every major version.
BTW, unless I somehow missed it, the list didn't even mention Spaces. There's definitely more to Leopard that this list. - robdazomba, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Most of these features were revealed by Jobs at the last WWDC and the rest have been known via other legit sources. Example: resolution independence was a coming feature announced to developers almost a year ago. What's the point of the excited tone of this article? There's literally nothing new in it.
- maninblac1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Okay, i'm going to be honost about this, but i may sound like a total noob when i ask this, but i seriously don't get it.
Why do we need resolution independence, doesn't vector graphics resolve this problem on its own. A vector is supposed to be infinately scalable, so if we have a vector based graphics system, need we only scale the length of the vector to increase it's size, this should solve any size problem regardless of dpi or screen resolution. This was the idea of OSX vector graphics icons as i understand, you could scale them to rediculously large sizes, (or small) and they still looked as they were intended.
Then again, i'm not sure i understand how resolution indepence attacks a problem differently than vector graphics. -
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