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Leopard: One big page listing all 300+ new features

apple.com — All 300+ new features on one page over on Apple.com, this is new. And yes, it's coming this Friday too.

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  • sterntastic223, on 10/17/2007, -33/+21I'm going into stasis until Friday.
    • jackyyll, on 10/16/2007, -3/+20Come onnnnnn....
    • themastersb, on 10/17/2007, -1/+10I thought it was going to be the 26th. Not the 19th
    • LeeSoong, on 10/17/2007, -3/+5feature 301. plays all windows and ps2 games ...
    • sam10685, on 10/17/2007, -6/+3This doesn't excite me as much as the panther to tiger move.
      • MrSlumberjack, on 10/17/2007, -2/+2That happened a while ago.. kinda weird that your still excited about it. I didn't realize that tiger is better than panther will be.
        /sarcasm

        Why the hell wouldn't you be that excited about this? I don't think you have any idea how much your gonna ***** your pants when you get your hands on this.
        • blackeagle613, on 10/17/2007, -1/+3"don't think you have any idea how much your gonna ***** your pants when you get your hands on this."

          i never will understand apple fanboys
    • avatarpalin, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1But actually wake up 3 million years from now.. We are all piles of sand and you are the only person alive....

      ..But what about your cat that you left in the vent that you thought you would be caught... ?

      ...and what's up with the onboard computer.. Why is it a tad dimmer than before..?

      ...and why out of all the people to be brought back as a hologram your room they chose rimmer...?


      Nah stick around, the end of the world will be great!!

  • melllvar37, on 10/17/2007, -32/+4i hope the iphone sdk wasn't the 301. feature and had to be left out to make it 300 :-/
    • bobbyi, on 10/17/2007, -5/+21This is madness.
      • cK39, on 10/17/2007, -5/+16Madness?
      • KnightWhoSaysNi, on 10/17/2007, -6/+30This is APPLE!!!!
      • gmarsch, on 10/17/2007, -5/+4This day we rescue a world from mysticism and tyranny and usher in a world brighter than anything we can imagine, Give thanks men, to Leonidas and the brave 300! TO VICTORY!
        • readerofbooks, on 10/17/2007, -2/+14300+ men and 300+ features next friday night MICROSOFT DINES IN HELL!!!
  • patman, on 10/17/2007, -1/+38I was waiting for this one: Your notes folder acts like an email mailbox, so you can retrieve notes from (...) your iPhone (read it in the Mail section).
    • totorototoro, on 10/17/2007, -6/+9I just hope we can switch the typeface from Marker Felt.
      • billymonster, on 10/17/2007, -0/+13you already can, check your preferences.
    • FlynnRocks, on 10/17/2007, -0/+5Scroll on non-active windows!!!!
  • litolist, on 10/18/2007, -3/+179Next Friday, not this one.
    • Ireland, on 10/17/2007, -0/+8Dugg. The Apple stores will get stormed this Friday now because of me, ha!

      (my bad)
      • Burn, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1Why storm it on release date, you can already pre-order now for delivery on the release date.

        My copy is pre-ordered! :)
      • frostw, on 10/17/2007, -4/+1You have to buy this?! Didn't you guys already pay for OS X?
        • bagelpirate, on 10/17/2007, -0/+3Didn't you already pay for XP?
        • frostw, on 10/17/2007, -2/+1I did have to pay for XP, but it was about 5 years ago. Nothing since.
    • ezkiel, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1or 'Friday After Next'.
  • SparQy, on 10/17/2007, -11/+37Not this Friday... the 26th according to Reuters...

    http://ca.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx? ...

    • KnightWhoSaysNi, on 10/17/2007, -1/+38...and according to Apple's website
    • Spectre77, on 10/17/2007, -9/+2I always thought it was pronounced "root-ers", but then I watched a video of theirs the other day and the host said "roit-ers". I'm in a pickle.
      • RockinRoel, on 10/16/2007, -0/+6Of course it's roit-ers, it's German. In German, eu sounds like oi.
      • RockinRoel, on 10/17/2007, -2/+3Of course it's roit-ers, it's German. In German, eu sounds like oi.
  • billymonster, on 10/17/2007, -15/+103there are a whole lot of non-features on that list.
    frontrow can already play dvds.
    • yonis, on 10/17/2007, -2/+10And Safari 3 is going to be available for 10.4 and Windows, so you can pretty much cross everything off that one.
      • Peavey, on 10/17/2007, -1/+10Except, like Bootcamp, isn't Safari 3 still in beta, so technically it won't be released until they release Leopard? And, won't certain features of Safari 3, like Webclip, be limited to Leopard?

        /rhetorical questions
    • FenrisUlf, on 10/17/2007, -3/+18Front Row wasn't in Tiger, at least not for my iBook.
      • eleven, on 10/17/2007, -0/+5Look at the requirements. I still think you and I are out of luck when it comes to front row. It states that it requires a IR receiver built in. I was hoping to use it with my Mac Pro and wireless keyboard.
        • MtheoryX, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1Front Row is a dedicated, stand-alone application now. You should be able to just open it up.

          Haven't tried it myself, as all my macs have the IR, but I don't see any reason why an iBook couldn't use it now.
        • avihappy, on 10/17/2007, -0/+2You can use FR with a keyboard already (and download it too, look on google).
        • fr34k5h0w, on 10/16/2007, -1/+2Try pressing Command+Esc. Should work without the remote.
        • eleven, on 10/16/2007, -0/+2My thoughts are that it just wont install on my MacPro. Hell, the installer disk that came with my system listed Front Row - but it was grayed out and would not install. I hope that it will install as a normal app, I know it can be controlled with a keyboard or a bluetooth phone - beats me why they didn't just put an IR receiver into the MacPro's front bezel, come on Apple - even the pros want to sit 10 feet from their screens and watch a DVD sometimes.
      • bbardlbradd, on 10/16/2007, -0/+2I have front row on my iBook G4, where no IR receiver exists. Works fine for me... I used to have a Leopard Beta though, and front row did not work well... but it was a beta so who knows. I have a 1.4Ghz G4 with 1gd (2x512) DDR333 in this iBook, under leopard I was almost always out of memory and my cycles went from around 10%-40% average (tiger) to 50%-70% in Leopard.

        But, like I said, it was a beta. I just hope leopard it usably backwards compatible and not just possibly backwards compatible.

        I cannot download new hardware on Bittorrent. :/
    • yuvaltobias, on 10/16/2007, -1/+2I think they added it to the AppleTV-like software... Still - a lot of non-features on the list.
    • selkie, on 10/16/2007, -0/+4Does anyone know whether it can do NTFS read/write without MacFUSE? This is something they seriously need to get going especially with Boot Camp.
      • dzorz, on 10/16/2007, -2/+1FTA:
        Copy Files Between Mac OS X and Windows
        Copy, open, modify, or delete files in Mac OS X that you saved to your Windows partition. Leopard understands the Windows FAT32 disk format.

      • rspeed, on 10/17/2007, -0/+6Nope. Still need MacFUSE.
      • DOGPARTY, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1Blame Microsoft for locking that NTFS ***** up
    • erzz, on 11/11/2007, -13/+8My favourite non-feature was....
      "increased drop shadow"

      LMAO - Mactards would be ripping Windows apart for suggesting this was a feature
      • klaupacius, on 10/18/2007, -2/+14No. Mactards wouldnt care about reading a Windows feature list.
      • bbardlbradd, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2While I've found you in your dug-downess, and I'm a mac "fanboi", I agree. Or at least would rather put it "Mac people would chuckle upon the mention of a (IMO too overbearing) drop-shadow as a new feature"
      • jowie74, on 11/11/2007, -0/+1The word 'feature' is quite vague anyhow. Personally I'd call it a hindrance. Didn't drop shadows go out of fashion in the Nineties?
    • over90000, on 10/18/2007, -12/+2Imagine a giant penis flying towards your mouth, and there's nothing you can do about it. And you're like "Oh man, I'm gonna have to suck this thing", and you brace yourself to suck this giant penis. But then, at the last moment, it changes trajectory and hits you in the eye. You think to yourself "Well, at least I got that out of the way", but then the giant penis rears back and stabs your eye again, and again, and again. Eventually, this giant penis is penetrating your gray matter, and you begin to lose control of your motor skills. That's when the giant penis slaps you across the cheek, causing you to fall out of your chair. Unable to move and at your most vulnerable, the giant penis finally lodges itself in your anus, where it rests uncomfortably for 4, maybe 5 hours. That's what using a mac is like.
    • over90000, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1True. These "new" features just goes to show the major omissions in Tiger.
  • DeadlyNinja, on 10/18/2007, -7/+57Best New Feature: More Smileys in iChat.
    • timusca, on 10/17/2007, -3/+22No, no, no... definitely the time bar in DVD Player. Finally, we can choose a place to skip to while watching a movie! /sarcasm (but yes, it is listed)
      • Shorties, on 10/17/2007, -0/+8While DeadlyNinja was joking you speak a very sad truth, man the DVD player sucked in 10.4, and the new one is one of my most anticipated features (Along with the TV like interface in front row).
      • tizz66, on 10/17/2007, -0/+4And *finally* you can make DVD player float on top! Praise the lord... now I don't need to use VLC for watching DVD's.
        • RockinRoel, on 10/17/2007, -1/+1You could use Front Row for that..?
        • RockinRoel, on 10/16/2007, -1/+1You could use Front Row for that..?
        • Peavey, on 10/17/2007, -0/+5Well Front Row takes up the entire screen, so if you wanted to watch a movie in a window but have it float on top of everything else, then no. You couldn't use Front Row for that.
  • johnhummel, on 10/17/2007, -7/+18Hm - my old Powerbook and Mac Mini are *just* outside the range of the minimum system specs. Guess I have an excuse now to upgrade finally!
    • THUMPerRTE, on 10/17/2007, -2/+25your mac mini doesn't meet the requirements?
      • picsectionpleez, on 10/17/2007, -0/+3don't tell me that- it should last time I looked be fine
      • TheFinaleofSeem, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1Could be a stock early PPC Mini with only 256MB of RAM. Not that a 1GB DDR upgrade is going to be expensive.
    • S1L3NTC, on 10/17/2007, -31/+9...and the rest of the world continues to not give a *****.
    • FenrisUlf, on 10/16/2007, -0/+3You might not have to, look up XPostFacto (allows OSX to be installed on "no longer supported" Mac hardware).
    • Kelmon, on 10/16/2007, -0/+2I'm going to be installing Leopard on a 1GHz Titanium PowerBook G4 so your Mini should be fine (more or less). I'm not expecting fireworks but I am at least expecting it to work acceptably. On my MacBook Pro, however, I'm expecting great things...
    • bbardlbradd, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1I've installed a beta (the build prior to their last dev conference) and it ran _ok_ on my iBook G4 (1.4Ghz 1Gb (2x512) DDR333 60gb 4200rpm 8mb buffer PATA HDD). It was very... beta then, so I hope they've worked out some kinks and not added more bloat. The OS alone too up more than 1/2 my memory, it didn't swap too often, though it was more than tiger, and my cpu ran about 25% hotter on average. :/
    • MavRevMatt, on 10/17/2007, -2/+2This is how Apple makes money.
  • colincornaby, on 10/17/2007, -1/+67"OpenDocument and Word 2007 Formats - Take advantage of TextEdit support for the Word 2007 and OpenDocument formats for reading and writing." This should make quite a few people happy.
    • FredFredrickson, on 10/17/2007, -22/+2Open Document support for one of the most closed platforms around... funny.
      • antitab, on 10/16/2007, -0/+8Closed, like, BSD closed? What?
      • colincornaby, on 10/17/2007, -2/+17Huh? Large chunks of OS X are open source. (http://developer.apple.com/opensource/index.html) As opposed to Windows which is entirely closed source?
        • CWal37, on 10/16/2007, -5/+1"As opposed to Windows which is entirely closed source?"
          Is it or isn't it?
          • GawtMilk, on 10/16/2007, -2/+3It's closed source, but open library. Which means, easy to develop for, but impossible to change the actual underlying operating system. Same as Apple, pretty much.
          • WiseWeasel, on 10/16/2007, -1/+2@GawtMilk: Not quite the same as Apple. We have the source to most low level libraries (in the Darwin project), and it's not hard to make the changes you want, compile, and swap out the binaries you want to...
        • davidbattley, on 10/17/2007, -1/+2i believe the windows IP stack is available under BSD :)
        • davidbattley, on 10/16/2007, -1/+1i believe the windows IP stack is available under BSD :)
      • TheFinaleofSeem, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1Call the WAAAAAAHHHHHBULANCE!
      • DOGPARTY, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1BAAAWWWWWWW Open Source gets supported and linux retards weep.. probably because it'll beat the crap out of every program that does it on their sticky tape and washing up liquid bottle OS
    • Micktion, on 10/17/2007, -9/+2Hmmm, not all people... it might not please those who have been moaning about Microsoft's OpenDocument format being a non-standard beause no one can implement it. It kind of makes that argument now seem rather childish.... which it obviously was.

      I think this proves that rather than OpenDocument being a non-standard, that this "impossible to implement" argument used against it's ISO standardisation was in fact a non-argument.

      I think this will definitely please Microsoft as it helps them to legitamise OpenDocument as a truely open and legitament document format.
    • Micktion, on 10/17/2007, -4/+3I also misspelled legitimate. That on top of the OpenDocument/OpenXML stuff up on top of the non-apple oooh aaah sentiment, I guess I'm just out to be buried today.
    • Micktion, on 10/17/2007, -7/+3I also misspelled legitimate. That on top of the OpenDocument/OpenXML stuff up on top of the non-apple oooh aaah sentiment, I guess I'm just out to be buried today.
    • phlebitis, on 10/17/2007, -3/+1I'm happy. Between TextEdit and iWork, I will never have to waste my time with MS Office again. I hope that Office for Mac goes the way of Windows Media Player and IE.
    • Loonacy, on 10/17/2007, -4/+1But you still can't create a new text document in TextEdit. Sad.
  • TheEgghead, on 10/17/2007, -22/+1720+ new features in Mail.app and not one of them is non-broken IMAP support. Can't you show us just a little standards love Apple?
    • colincornaby, on 10/16/2007, -2/+13From what I've heard, Leopard adds IMAP idle support.
      • daldredge, on 10/17/2007, -3/+16Guess IMAP idle support isn't as important as six (6) screen saver updates.

        • nakani, on 10/17/2007, -0/+10Hey, they gots ta get they pretty on
        • dlsspy, on 10/17/2007, -1/+4Yeah, damnit. They should've had those screen saver developers working on IMAP support.
    • Kelmon, on 10/16/2007, -1/+6Interestingly, I use Mail at work with an IMAP server and haven't had a problem - what am I missing?
      • TheEgghead, on 10/16/2007, -0/+3They don't support IMAP folder subscription. This is a big PITY if you have a bunch of extra folders where your mail lives and you don't want to see them. Also IMAP namespace support is sketchy at best. Its just kind of surprising because the IMAP standard is pretty straight-forward and Apple just didn't bother to implement pieces of it.
  • Takuro, on 10/17/2007, -3/+28Nice find.

    However, You almost made me spit out my Pepsi and jump for glee prematurely. October 26th is NEXT Friday. For getting my hopes up one final time after countless false Leopard release dates, sir, I hate you.
  • galeninjapan, on 10/16/2007, -13/+4What is the deal with Front Row? "Sit back and enjoy all of your digital media full screen on your Mac with Front Row. Now built in to Mac OS X Leopard." I can already do that. It called enter full screen. Am I missing something?
    • sonofalink, on 10/16/2007, -2/+4Front Row is not officially part of Tiger. Neither is Photobooth.
    • DCstewieG, on 10/16/2007, -1/+4Front Row isn't just full screen. It's a media center with a 10 foot UI.
    • FredFredrickson, on 10/16/2007, -3/+1Why do you need something called Front Row to make things go full screen? Couldn't you do that already?
      • antitab, on 10/16/2007, -1/+2Technically not with QuickTime (non-Pro), actually :/
        • ScrumFritter, on 10/17/2007, -0/+5Well, now you can. They added that a few months ago via a free update.
      • MtheoryX, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1It's a convenient feature with a remote. Convenience. Not a brand new feature; rather, an enhancement for an existing feature. You'll find this kind of thing happens pretty regularly in the tech sector....like...absolutly everywhere.
      • michaelb1, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1front row gives 1 UI for presentation purposes off all the mac media apps. Quicktime, iMovie, itunes, dvd player, etc
  • EmoSLWarrior, on 10/17/2007, -12/+6This deserves one big hearty W00T!!! My Macbook Pro will be pleased. Viva Apple Inc!
  • geoken, on 10/17/2007, -7/+65The list seems pretty padded. There are 6 entries for screen savers. Wouldn't 1 entry called "new screensavers" suffice?

    Also, other things are listed more than once. For example, DTrace is in the "Instruments" section and the "Unix" section.

    Those are just a couple of things I noticed at first glance. I'm sure there are a lot more instances of fluffing if you actually dive into the list.
    • Kazbaeden, on 10/17/2007, -2/+13It enables people to now say "Leopard has 300 new features" and then point to this list. It was a staple of XP vs Tiger debates, and the list of ~200 tiger improvements, many of which were just as insignificant as this list.

      I predict the same thing will happen for Vista vs Leopard debates.
      • geoken, on 10/17/2007, -0/+7You're totally right. That list was standard reading material for "Internet Forum OS Wars:101". I remember actually reading that list once. They listed dashboard as a feature (rightfully so), then went on to list every single widget as an individual feature at some point in the list.
    • iamcanman, on 10/17/2007, -3/+3You've really gone and done it now geoken. That's it. Turn in your Apple Fanboy Card on the way out, and don't let Steve see you.
    • mwosh, on 10/17/2007, -3/+5I agree its pretty padded, but say that cuts out half of the features, thats still 150, and pretty significant features added at that. (Time Machine, Spaces, Etc)
      • LeeSoong, on 10/25/2007, -7/+2data back up and different log-in screens.

        wow.

        that's soooo innovative, if it was 1977.

        how about building multi-touch screens into all the imacs and apple displays, and better voice recognition too ?

        wake me when os x goes all the way to 11.
      • MavRevMatt, on 10/17/2007, -2/+2So Apple invented both of these concepts? Backups and workspaces? Yeah right. I will say that time machine is a great implementation of backups, but it's nothing all special. And, workspaces have been around on Linux since ***** forever.
        • myheaditches, on 10/25/2007, -1/+2Please take not, these are new features in Leopard, not linux. While workspace applications have been available for macs, Spaces looks to be a much better implementation than those.
        • ThankTheCheese, on 10/25/2007, -1/+2Come on, mate, I don't think anyone is claiming they invented these things, but they're great for us who have not used them before.
    • trippytree, on 10/17/2007, -0/+47#128 Empty Trash Button

      Empty the Trash from the Trash itself with the Empty Trash button.

      this...is...HUGE
      • LeeSoong, on 10/16/2007, -1/+1already does it... in 10.4
      • keviniskool, on 10/16/2007, -0/+2I think my mind just exploded from the sheer awesomness of this feature.
      • wallykid, on 10/17/2007, -0/+0something in my pants just exploded
        • Mattja, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1Nooo my trash can just exploded :(
          I see a little smoking hole where formally the icon lived.
    • Micktion, on 10/17/2007, -12/+1Well the release to me doesn't appear to be much more than some incremental changes. It's really a Y.X+1 release. Unless I'm missing something here it looks more like a service pack release than a new OS. I think XP SP2 was a bigger leap in terms of features than this.
      • superkendall, on 10/17/2007, -0/+8Time Machinne (and associated UI and API's) alone would make it a major release - but there's Core Animation, pretty large application upgrades (like for Mail), Spaces, and an overhauled dock...

        This isn't just a theme pack.
        • Grogtron, on 10/17/2007, -6/+2Spaces and the doc changes are weekend projects in a Linux window manager.
          • MavRevMatt, on 10/17/2007, -1/+2Don't digg him down for the truth ***** fanboys. Jobs didn't invent anything new in OSX, and I'm not saying Linux did either, but rather Linux can already do all of this, and could, most of it before it was announced, so you're just way beyond the bleeding edge.

            Oh and this core animation *****, there's something called Compiz(-fusion) and Beryl that've been around for quite some time.
        • Micktion, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1Sorry but it doesn't impress me. An OS release is something like with MS 2000 to XP.... in which they took a business OS and turned it into an OS for home users, which involved the inclusion of DirectX, a redesign of most of the UI.

          Off the top of my head I can remember with XP SP2 they shipped for the first time a Firewall, the .NET framework, and IE6.0, so XP SP2 wasn't just a themepack either.

          TimeMachine doesn't sound like much more than the windows System Restore + backup and restore programs, which are buried away in windows ... quite appropriately as in terms of features its quite nice but a small one.
          I don't see how u can categorise this TimeMachine hooharr as something more than adding a firewall, virtual machine and new web browser to an OS.

          So Sorry... you may be dugg but you're talking crap.
      • Peavey, on 10/16/2007, -1/+4First off, 10.4 + .1 = 10.5

        Am I missing something?

        And second, see superkendall's reply. He already said what I would have, but in a much more clear and concise manner.
      • MavRevMatt, on 10/17/2007, -1/+1If it's just a +1, you people are getting ripped off again.
  • promovi, on 10/30/2007, -38/+59"Just hold down the Control key while clicking any address..." In Windows/Linux land we call this "right clicking".
    • meatmcguffin, on 10/17/2007, -9/+17In Apple land we call it right clicking too. Just so happens that macs before 2006ish have to control click while recent macs have the ability to right click.
      • Raider007, on 10/17/2007, -1/+34actually, macs have been able to right click by default since forever, you just have to plug in a 2 button mouse...
        it just so happens that they finally decided to ship a 2 button mouse in 2006...
        but seriously, what computer user keeps their stock mouse anyways...
        • promovi, on 10/17/2007, -2/+6I kept the stock mouse on my laptop, did you replace yours?
        • dlsspy, on 10/17/2007, -0/+4My mbp touch pad supports right clicking by clicking with two fingers on the control pad. In practice, I've found that easier than distinguishing the two buttons I've had on previous computers.
          • promovi, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1Yah, my mbp does also, but its fun to see the fanboys squirm. Its still not officially sanctioned by the almighty steve because their literature still says to hold down the control key.
    • winnch, on 10/17/2007, -9/+33And on the Mac we call it control click. Why the *****'s it worth talking about?
      • Spectre77, on 10/17/2007, -25/+2Mostly because its still funny that you guys only have one mouse button. If you ever move up to a two-button system it will open up new worlds to you, like when programmers went from using just 0's to using 0's AND 1's.
        • ScrumFritter, on 10/17/2007, -2/+14Why does no one understand that you can right click on Macs? Do you actually ENJOY being wrong when you're trying to be smarmy and superior?
          • fxspec06, on 10/16/2007, -1/+1Smarmy. Great word dude. Never thought of that word. Tell this slimeball to get out of here.
        • Spectre77, on 10/17/2007, -11/+1@ScrumFritter : It's not so much about smarminess and superiority as it is about blowing wind up the skirt of all you Apple fanboys and watching you dance.
        • vulapine, on 10/16/2007, -1/+2Trying very unsuccessfully at that. Well... Smarmy still fits.
      • LeeSoong, on 10/17/2007, -10/+3because Macs suck.
        stevie and company plan to cripple the bootcamp beta, already used by tens of thousands of people, forcing them to go buy 10.5 so their macs keep dual booting.

        nice, buy the upgrade or apple takes your windows programs and data hostage.
        that's really nice...
        • Molnies, on 10/17/2007, -1/+3What are you talking about? Taking Windows hostage... come on. Boot camp is a BETA right now, and will be released with Leopard - this isn't something weird or evil by Apple. Also, your Win OS partition will still work, you just won't able to create a Win OS partition when the beta is closed down - totally normal and nothing to get upset about. Get your facts straight next time.
      • BlackJackJester, on 10/26/2007, -7/+2Take maddox's advice and shut the ***** up.
    • vulapine, on 10/17/2007, -0/+3What is Command-Click called in Windows/Linux land. Also, Alt-Click. What's that called?
    • RockinRoel, on 10/17/2007, -2/+7Every self-respecting computer user knows to buy Logitech peripherals and stow away those that came with the computer. If you're looking at the Apple peripherals it's seriously better than the HP crap we got with our PC. But still, the question is: do we really need to right click? On Windows it's right click frenzy, is that fun?
      • DeFex, on 10/17/2007, -0/+2it must be confusing if you bought a dell and the mouse is already actually made by logitech.
    • postalblowfish7, on 10/17/2007, -0/+16i've been right clicking on my mac since the ***** 90's. this is the lamest mac myth out there.
      • michaelb1, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1It's kind of funny that people thought/think that since macs used to come with 1 button mouse that you could not use a 2 button mouse with it.
        • merwin, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1It's also kind of funny that Apple only started shipping two button mice a couple years ago.
    • vertinox, on 10/17/2007, -0/+9In Mac land its called plugging up a two button mouse to your computer. They work out of the box.
      • BlackJackJester, on 10/17/2007, -4/+1Just like everything else, right? Oh, wait, except for software...
        Pixar even uses PC's, and thats mac's little slutpuppy.
        • coldfusion1970, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1Hell i run a bunch of software in Mac OS X and Boot Camp.
          Wheres the beef?
    • DOGPARTY, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1macs come with a 4 button mouse, it just doesn't look like a piece of ***** covered in buttons like microsoft/logitechs do
    • avatarpalin, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1In Australia we call it a 'Shazz Wazza'

      [/beer]

  • WilliamDecker, on 10/18/2007, -17/+6THIS IS LEOPARD!
    • Spectre77, on 10/17/2007, -0/+6I like where your head's at, but you have to finish up by kicking someone down the well if you want +diggs.
    • fxspec06, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1But... I thought this was Digg?
    • sparkey182, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1Good try?
  • christianjb, on 10/17/2007, -11/+37Note the erroneous use of the contraction "it's" as opposed to the possessive "its" in the WIkipedia in Dictionary section.

    Poor show Apple.
    • yonis, on 10/17/2007, -0/+13Dynamic Web Filter
      Protect your children from websites with unsuitable content. Apple technology automatically __trys__ to detect inappropriate content and prevents those web pages from appearing. You can override the filter by identifying sites you wish to explicitly allow or disallow certain websites.
      • tizz66, on 10/16/2007, -0/+4Haha, I noticed that, and concluded it was probably just me being stupid. I must have spent a few minutes pondering whether that looked right or not.
      • christianjb, on 10/17/2007, -0/+11What makes it more embarrassing is Apple's boasting of their system wide grammar checker.
    • betobeto, on 10/17/2007, -2/+5LOL. Not enough budget to hire a competent proofreader, Apple?
      • superkendall, on 10/18/2007, -3/+11No-one who uses LOL (ever) has any right to complain about apostrophes.
    • wheel, on 10/17/2007, -0/+5I noticed that too. I thought it was very ironic that it was in the Dictionary section.
    • poesybeater, on 10/17/2007, -0/+3Shouldn't they have used the new grammar checker?!?
    • Kelmon, on 10/16/2007, -0/+3Yup, there's a few *****-ups on that page. Here's another:
      Quick Look: "Flip through multipage documents, preview movies, even add images to Photo." Anyone care to bet that they meant iPhoto? Bit careless to misspell your own product.
      • stacky, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1If you look closely, you can occasionally see lorem ipsum at the bottom of apple.com pages.
    • reubencm, on 10/16/2007, -0/+3"completed audio chats as AAC files and video chats as MPEF-4 files — so you can share with others or sync to your iPod"
      MPEF-4?if i didnt know F was next to G on the keyboard i would have assumed it was some format i dont know about...get a proof reader apple.
  • timusca, on 10/17/2007, -11/+6Just a note: The Digg RSS crashes my RSS screensaver in Leopard EVERY time... it locks up and the only way out is to hold the power button or pull the plug.
    • surfing, on 10/16/2007, -1/+3Try it again.
    • postalblowfish7, on 10/16/2007, -2/+2digg is a mess of too much information. my ps3 browser can't load digg wtihout crashing.
  • shinythingy, on 10/17/2007, -14/+4i'd like to try this out on something that isn't a Mac but alas apple this is just one reason why your market share is so much lower than it could be.
    • noahhoward, on 10/16/2007, -0/+7And one more reason why your product is better than it would be. Keep up the good work.
    • coldfusion1970, on 10/17/2007, -0/+2But dont forget that Apples marketshare is growing in both laptops and desktops.
  • ronaldst, on 10/17/2007, -8/+47Wow. When the 300 "features" are broken down, most of them seem so insignificant... :x
    • betobeto, on 10/17/2007, -2/+11That's marketing 101 for ya buddy. Something Apple certainly excels at.
      • LeeSoong, on 10/17/2007, -3/+3os x 10.5 - nothing more than a glossy gift wrapped box full of mach, unix, and bsd code mish-mash.

        and still 1,000,000 times better than windows vista.
    • GreenAlien, on 10/17/2007, -5/+16And when considered as a whole, it's a worthwhile update ;) If it makes you feel any better try putting a list of Vista features alongside.
      • Snakedal337, on 10/17/2007, -3/+10Okay

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windo ...

        Note that Most of those are large updates, compared to "Empty the trash from the trash!"
        • coldfusion1970, on 10/17/2007, -5/+3To be fair that only enables it to catch-up with Tiger.
          There'll probably be another five years for the Leopard rivalling update.
          • MavRevMatt, on 11/09/2007, -1/+4Because Leopards at the top of the chain right? Brainwashed bastard.
        • MakinBacon, on 10/17/2007, -3/+5And by Vista's "large updates" you're referring to gems such as:
          - JPEG files can be natively set as the desktop wallpaper without using Active Desktop
          - Paint has new features such as a crop function and the undo limit has been raised from 3 to 10
          - When renaming a file, Explorer only highlights the filename without selecting the extension
          - Sleep power state replaces Standby mode and is active by default
          ... and my personal favourite:
          - Vista also incorporates a range of Digital Rights Management features allowing 'premium content' while respecting the rights of the movie industry, at the cost of a slight percentage of system resources.
  • littleodie914, on 10/17/2007, -5/+25There are actually quite a few features on that list that in fact are NOT new to Leopard. For example, the Mouse Controls for Exposé and Dashboard. Those have been there since Tiger, no?
  • kashem, on 10/17/2007, -3/+18Xcode 3 baby...
  • ronaldst, on 10/16/2007, -2/+7Anyone found the indepence resolution thingamajig?
    • FenrisUlf, on 10/16/2007, -0/+3It's in Leopard (under Quartz Debug), but it's not automated or tied into your display's DPI yet.

      It was in Tiger too, but was still pretty crude back then.
    • jimjones1, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1Yeah, I'm a little disappointed that this didn't get further along as promised. I use the zooming feature (control - scroll wheel on mouse) a lot to read things on my little laptop screen or to sit back in my chair and read from further away. When you zoom things, everything gets pixelated. If most everything were vector-based, which is the goal, everything would look perfect zoomed-in.
      • EllimistX, on 11/09/2007, -0/+3aldkjfaljf;l.....enhance.....jafjglakfglakg.....enhance.....lkj;kldjf;d....enhance....
    • DelMonte, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1The resolution independence APIs are relatively complete in Leopard. The reason why it's not a setting in the system preferences is that applications will need to be modified so that they use dpi relative measurements instead of pixels. Most of the Apple applications are ready, some are not. Many third-party apps are not ready, and Apple told developer to have them ready by 2008.

      I think Apple underestimated the amount of work needed to bring apps into res-independence. I suspect that somewhere in 2008 Apple will have a special update to enable user access to RI, perhaps along with new new high-resolution monitors. It could also be an occasion for Apple to release a new updated interface and get rid of the Aqua elements (perhaps giving a choice to switch between themes).

      You also have to keep in mind that RI will be useful not only for these future high-res monitors, but also for current laptop monitors which are pretty high-res already. Remember that the Mac OS still assumes 72 dpi, despite monitors going 96dpi and beyond. Also, people with bad eyesight would love to be able to enlarge UI elements without having to switch to badly interpolated LCD resolutions.


  • ronnsprocket, on 10/30/2007, -21/+16This may sound crazy. but, since Apple is vertically integrated, you would think an update like this would come free of charge. I mean, its not revolutionary. its not groundbreaking. -more like polishing. which i will accept with open arms, but it just seems dumb to pay.

    and before anyone goes on some rant about programmers and engineers need food too, I completely agree. I just feel like the extra $800 bones i shelled out for my macbook pro over an equally powerful latitude should somewhat offset me throwing another buck 25 down on an extremely thorough update.

    • FredFredrickson, on 10/17/2007, -8/+8That's what I've been saying... it merely looks like an incremental upgrade, and not "a whole new thing" like evryone seems to be making it out to be.
      • DROWE859, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1The deal is, it *is* an incremental upgrade, it is a 10.x release. 10.x releases involve new features and functionality while 10.4.x are fixes.
      • dlsspy, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1I've paid significantly more than the cost of this OS upgrade for single-language profilers that aren't as good as dtrace. dtrace is going to make any developer who cares make their program run faster. That means your computer will run faster.

        That's one feature, of course. There are lots of little features like that. People have paid that much for several of the features in this list, but it's a good mix of lower-level and higher-level stuff. That is, things that are immediately interesting to a customer, but also things that allow developers to provide things that are more interesting to customers. I've seen a few projects over the last year whose developers have decided to stop supporting shipping versions of OS X for their new projects because the development tools and frameworks are so vastly better that it's not worth their effort (and I always thought OS X development was pretty good).

        What type of revolutionary release would you think constitutes a new enough thing to justify ~$130?
    • p0tent1al, on 10/18/2007, -10/+4Complaining about features that should come free to mac users...... your complaints fall on deaf ears in the apple community. Everyone who has a Mac is glad to pay the fees, you should be happy too.
      • Micktion, on 10/18/2007, -11/+4Yes... I heartily agree owning Apple products is more about status than substance.
    • byttle, on 10/16/2007, -8/+1Just wait till it comes out, it might just blow your mind away
      • sinfony, on 10/16/2007, -4/+4An operating system might "blow you away" or "blow your mind." The only thing that can "blow your mind away" is a gun.
    • superkendall, on 10/16/2007, -2/+5It's not quite as much as XP->Vista, but way more new stuff than you ever saw with an SP from Microsoft. Well worth charging for if you consider the major features...

      Especially if you are a developer and ever use XCode.

    • Refrag, on 10/16/2007, -4/+5Vista should have been free too.
      • LeeSoong, on 10/18/2007, -3/+7typo,

        you meant 'my pc should be vista free too.'
    • ripdog, on 10/17/2007, -0/+5I tried a Leopard dev build recently, and swore that i couldn't live without it. All those little features add up to make it a much better OS then Tiger. Pity it was so buggy. :(
    • yabos, on 10/16/2007, -1/+2Yeah sure, they only spent 2 years on it and programmers only work for free caffeinated beverages, it cost them nothing.

      /sarcasm
    • picsectionpleez, on 10/17/2007, -4/+2Oh whatever all you naysayers- I agree- for the full install disc charge, but for an upgrade give it free. This is NOT a ground breaking upgrade.
    • pierrefilms, on 10/17/2007, -0/+9Why does this need to be a ground breaking upgrade to have to charge for it? Sorry, but you don't see MS service packs offering 300+ new features. Maybe 300+ patches with some features sprinkled in...thats what SP2 was. Just because they don't give it a brand new name each time doesn't mean it's not a major update. Time Machine, Spaces, the new Finder, etc. It's also now 64-bit from the ground up. These are not little feature updates.
    • kaplanfx, on 10/17/2007, -0/+2Many of the core apps have seen significant upgrades, and there are several completely new features. Additionally it brings with it coreimage and other significant API improvements that will lead to improved apps. You expect to just buy one OS X license and have several hundred programmers continue to spend their entire job updating it for you for free?
  • yujie, on 10/16/2007, -10/+4The cure for cancer?
  • gmarsch, on 10/17/2007, -13/+3"This day we rescue a world from mysticism and tyranny and usher in a world brighter than anything we can imagine, Give thanks men, to Leonidas and the brave 300! TO VICTORY!"
  • FredFredrickson, on 10/16/2007, -11/+5Why is everyone so excited about this? By and large, it just looks like a small upgrade from everything we already have now, plus a few extra doodads here and there.
  • zioxide, on 10/30/2007, -24/+28301. Leopard now rapes students!
    • crzdmniac, on 10/19/2007, -2/+21You aren't kidding, where's the story about the student discount going from $69 to $116?
    • UMDirector, on 10/16/2007, -1/+5did they raise the student price or something?
      • mcnasby, on 10/17/2007, -1/+16Apparently they want to give more students reason to start learning how to use the Bit Torrent protocol. *shrug*
    • superkendall, on 10/17/2007, -1/+9Incorrect, education pricing for verified schools and students is still $69. It's just not listed that way on the Apple store for all people for some reason.
      • lrdntwnd, on 10/17/2007, -0/+4Do you have something to back that up? I certainly am not seeing $69 on the Apple Store Online...
  • Anteros, on 10/17/2007, -10/+11This update seems a lot less interesting than the Tiger release
  • zootm, on 10/17/2007, -3/+15Most of the changes are fairly minor. But I think the idea is that, since they're not delivering very many broadly-appealing improvements, they've managed to put in so many small tweaks that people will notice a large difference in general. Unlike Windows users, Mac users tend to be fairly accepting of improvements (Microsoft are often chastised for changing things, regardless of whether it's for the better or not).

    I imagine DTrace support will be a boon with developers, it's certainly seen a lot of success on Solaris.

    The only big changes I see for users in general are Spaces (which basically work exactly the same as existing Linux desktops, right down to the special effects mirroring those available in Compiz) and Time Machine, which although they're significant aren't on the same sort of scale as Apple have delivered in the past. I look forward to seeing how Time Machine works in practice, too, though.
    • selkie, on 10/17/2007, -2/+5Yeah, true... but we shouldn't forget that it's 64bit from the ground up. Assuming you have a newer Mac, I'm figuring you'll see a speed boost there.
      • zootm, on 10/17/2007, -3/+1This is a fair point, but it's not like it's a significant feature improvement.
    • LeeSoong, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1small changes ? - how about a scalable on-screen virtual keyboard that comes with shift keys and a shift-lock key that actually work ?
    • Kelmon, on 10/17/2007, -0/+2I'm going to suggest that Quick Look is going to be incredibly useful. Personally, I'm really looking forwards to Xcode 3, Mail and Preview updates since I use those programs a lot. However, the under-the-hood enhancements should be impressive as well (Intel optimisation for multicore processors and OpenGL enhancements). Honestly, there's more here for me than in Tiger really, with the exception of Core Data which still rocks my world.
    • Angostura, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1If you look past the Bling there is quite a lot of nice stuff. The security section is interesting, as is the parental control stuff.
      • zootm, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1But, as I said, they're a large number of small changes. Security is interesting, though, yes.
    • DOGPARTY, on 10/17/2007, -1/+1compiz ***** mirrored this you idiot
      • zootm, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1Nonsense. The Compiz effect was available and in place months before the first announcement by Apple. Unless you're claiming they can read minds, which would be a phenomenal achievement.
  • zootm, on 10/16/2007, -13/+2Most of the changes are fairly minor. But I think the idea is that, since they're not delivering very many broadly-appealing improvements, they've managed to put in so many small tweaks that people will notice a large difference in general. Unlike Windows users, Mac users tend to be fairly accepting of improvements (Microsoft are often chastised for changing things, regardless of whether it's for the better or not).

    I imagine DTrace support will be a boon with developers, it's certainly seen a lot of success on Solaris.

    The only big changes I see for users in general are Spaces (which basically work exactly the same as existing Linux desktops, right down to the special effects mirroring those available in Compiz) and Time Machine, which although they're significant aren't on the same sort of scale as Apple have delivered in the past. I look forward to seeing how Time Machine works in practice, too, though.
  • FunkyELF, on 10/17/2007, -0/+31Two missing features....

    Resolution-independent displays.
    ZFS

    Okay, maybe R/W support for ZFS is in the works and will come out eventually but the resolution independence has been on their much shorter list of features for a LONG time. Now it has disappeared.

    What a shame.
    • kamiller, on 10/16/2007, -1/+4I noticed that as well, i'm guessing that they will roll those out as 10.5.1 or .2 releases. I think they got the framework set with the leopard upgrade, and will slowly release those features through updates. But that is based on wild speculation.
      • superrcat, on 10/17/2007, -0/+3I don't think speculation can be wild unless it is stated with an exclamation mark.
    • DelMonte, on 10/17/2007, -0/+2As I posted up-here, resolution independence APIs are ready in Leopard, it's the third-party apps that are not. Apple told developers to have their apps ready by 2008.
  • wmarcello, on 10/17/2007, -14/+8But the question is... can you cut and paste files properly? It's absolutely absurd that OS X cannot do this properly yet. Yes, I know you can drag and drop files between windows, but having working keyboard commands should not be too much to ask.
    • ChromaVita, on 10/17/2007, -4/+13Command+C and Comand+V don't work for you?
      Command+C and Comand+V don't work for you?
      Command+C and Comand+V don't work for you?
      Command+C and Comand+V don't work for you?
      Works for me...
      • wmarcello, on 10/17/2007, -2/+4I said CUT, not COPY.
        • fxspec06, on 10/17/2007, -0/+3He did say cut. He really did. Go back and read it.
          I'm actually about to digg him up and chroma down, even though chroma's post was funny now that I notice what marcello truly said it comes off as douchy.
          And I also agree about the cut - paste files .. that would be useful in many situations. Maybe not so much with the new finder window, but I know I've needed it.
          • wmarcello, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1Yeah it did come off as douchy, and I apologize. I was just getting frustrated at my question being modded down by fanboys.
    • colincornaby, on 10/17/2007, -6/+5Copy and paste was added in Tiger. Cut and paste was left out for obvious reasons...
      • tnoy, on 10/17/2007, -1/+5Such as?
      • Kelmon, on 10/17/2007, -0/+3Yeah, I'm kinda missing why leaving out "Cut n Paste" is obvious as well. Look, I'm a happy Mac user but I confess that the lack of that particular function in Finder still mystifies me a bit. Drag n Drop is the only current solution to this (as best as I can tell) and that's not really ideal since it either requires multiple Finder windows or navigating by spring-loaded folders, which is always fun. Care to elaborate?
    • buddhistMonkey, on 10/16/2007, -4/+6((( "But the question is... can you cut and paste files properly?" )))

      If, by "properly," you mean "like Windows does it," then the answer is NO. OS X doesn't allow the cutting of files, and likely never will. I recommend just getting used to it.
    • wmarcello, on 10/16/2007, -2/+3Yes, Command-C and Command-V does work for me --- for COPY and paste, not CUT and paste like I mentioned. You say it was left out for obvious reasons... care to elaborate? CUT and paste keyboard commands are used effectively by millions of people in a million other applications out there... why not have it available for the filesystem like Windows does?
    • Redwan, on 10/17/2007, -5/+1command +X and command +V don't work for you?
    • GreenAlien, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1I vaguely remember the MacCast podcast mentioning a tip for doing this about a year or so ago. Think it involves the dock. Have a google through the show notes on maccast.com if it annoys you so much. Agreed though that it's a useful thing to have.
  • aelias, on 10/17/2007, -7/+5No, it is not coming this Friday. At least that's what the HUGE AD on apple.com says. Maybe they're wrong.
    • Yodacola, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1Friday=19
      Next Friday = 19+7 = 26 = Announced Date
      Friday ≠ Announced Date ∴ Apple Ad ≠ Your Logic
  • blubberlump, on 10/16/2007, -6/+4too bad a lot of those new features aren't new at all
    • FunkyELF, on 10/17/2007, -1/+7Too bad a lot of those features aren't "features" at all.
      I would call "Self-Tuning TCP" a feature.
      I would not call any of the 6 "features" under Screen Savers features though.
      I would call Spaces a single feature, I would call Time Machine a single feature....instead they get 16 features out of those two.
      Also, a lot of what I see are new features for applications, not the operating system.
      Is a new codec being supported in iChat really an OSX improvement? What happens if Apple ports iChat to Linux or Windows? Are they then Windows or Linux features?
      Does iChat really have 24 new OSX features or 24 new iChat features?
      More Smileys? Thats a feature???....okay.
      I'm not going to go through all of them but if you ask me Leopard might have 20 new features.
  • mewithoutRicky, on 10/17/2007, -8/+2Apple related? Oh let me dig this real quick
  • h0zae, on 10/17/2007, -10/+6first the 2 button mouse, now this:
    See the path of a file when you view it in the Finder. Just choose Show Path Bar from the View menu and the path is visible at the bottom of the Finder window. You can also drag files to any location in the Path Bar.
    • vulapine, on 10/17/2007, -2/+8Next thing you know they'll set up an expanded selection of malware.
  • Heiliger, on 10/17/2007, -5/+9Just make Mail faster than cold molasses and I'll be content.
    • GreenAlien, on 10/16/2007, -1/+4And maybe change all the toolbar buttons they introduced in v2 onwards. God they're ugly.
      • Heiliger, on 10/16/2007, -0/+2Nice idea, GA... I've had my menu on Text Only so long, I forgot about them! ;-)
    • vulapine, on 10/17/2007, -0/+4I know my Mac's six years old, so that could be a factor, but I'm not sure how much faster than "virtually instantaneous" you can get.
    • Angostura, on 10/17/2007, -0/+3Have you vacuumed out the SQLite database recently? There is a simple terminal command that can make Mail.app run a whole lot faster by clearing out the cruft in its indexes. Search for mail.app and SQLite
      • Heiliger, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1That's a good point .. I haven't done that in a while! Whoops... Maybe I should stop complaining and take action! Thanks Angostura.
  • yikiad, on 10/16/2007, -2/+5call me dumb, but is this new? does this mean we can use a multi-function printer on an airport network for more than just printing?

    Network Scanning Support
    Take advantage of new Bonjour-based network scanners, Leopard leads the way with the technology required to allow scanning over a network.
    • 24imac, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1scanning over a wireless network would be great.

      • Peavey, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1Ditto. It is a little annoying having to unplug the printer from the Airport Express and into my MacBook to scan something.
      • mrjofo, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1I've got 2 HP Photosmart Printer/Scanner/Copier/Faxers that use bonjour to advertise themselves and allow scanning over the network. They even niftily let me choose the destination format and app right on the printer itself.

        Sooo, what is Leopard gonna do for me?
    • eyeraw, on 10/16/2007, -0/+0Yeah I saw that and thought that was really kick ass too. Scanning is like one of those last few areas that needs to be brought up to date. It's all the nice touches like this that makes Leopard rock Vista IMHO.
  • calon9, on 10/17/2007, -5/+4I'm a mac owner (since the start), and was really hoping there would be some cool new features that were not being mentioned by all the preview write-ups. I guess not. This is being pushed as a major OS upgrade, whereas the majority of changes are for bundled apps, and the remainder are just minor changes.

    But I'll still upgrade my macs to it and hope that some of the new features (such as core animation) will be effectively used by developers in the future to deliver more unique-to-mac features in their programs.

  • surilamin, on 10/17/2007, -19/+7This a joke, more like a service pack if you ask me.
  • digitallysick, on 10/16/2007, -7/+2ahh "path bar in finder" nice, what about front row? it has the features listed does this mean all non front app macs will have the front row software? I would also like to use Wireless N on my powerbook
    • CATSCEO, on 10/16/2007, -0/+4Wireless N needs the hardware too. A PB doesn't have that.
    • yabos, on 10/16/2007, -0/+4So buy a freaking 802.11n adaptor. There's a few you can chose from for the Powerbook. An OS upgrade isn't going to make your 802.11g n compatible.
    • digitallysick, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1I understand that it requires 802.11n hardware (we all know this) , but its my understanding that this card is not made for powerbooks. I have yet to one and since you seem to know so much, how about give me a link to where i can buy one then for my powerbook.
  • EmoSLWarrior, on 10/16/2007, -7/+2Apple Inc. be praised! You have given us yet another beautiful Unix with which to catch the surf on the righteous WiFi waves! Whoa! (a nod to Keanu)
  • Nantel, on 10/17/2007, -1/+6I just wish for Mail to automatically choose another SMTP server address when the first one isn't reponding.
    • Angostura, on 10/16/2007, -0/+2It does already in Tiger - well at least it asks you if you want to choose an alternative one and presents a list.
      • mrjofo, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1He said automatically...which I think means "doesn't ask you".
    • avatarpalin, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1damn right, there are others there but it just doesn't move onto the next... Actually to be honest what I would like to see in Mail is the ability make HTML based messages.. Sure you can pick from templates but I wish I could have iWeb based functionality in email..
  • amneosis, on 10/17/2007, -3/+7woah, I swear the DVD 'float over other windows' was me! I'd raised one of those project tenders on the web to have someone code that feature for me, I also asked Apple to put it in. NO ONE BELIEVE ME
    • EmoSLWarrior, on 10/17/2007, -16/+0Don't feel bad. I've noticed that any post I put on Digg where I talk about my Apple Macbook Pro seems to mysteriously get diggs down. I suspect that I've got some digging trolls who just want to silence my outspoken views about truth and reality. But I refuse to be silenced. Don't let them silence you either. The truth is something that most people cannot deal with today. That is why it must be enforced upon them until they accept it. I'm just doing my part to make sure that people start to wake up to tyranny in the forms of:

      1. The Bush administration
      2. Big Business
      3. The Microsoft Corporation
      4. The oil industry
      5. The American military-industrial complex (think Blackwater)

      And any other number of topics that people want to bury their hards in the sand about. Preach the truth! Live the truth! Become one with truth! Health and happiness to all.
      • vulapine, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1Right on! Fight the tyranny of commenting on topic!
        • EmoSLWarrior, on 10/16/2007, -1/+0It was on topic. I talked about my Macbook Pro and I also pointed to the tyranny of Microsoft. These are two key points that are valid in any discussion of all things Apple. If you look at my profile, you'll see that I evangelize for Apple Inc. on a pro bono basis.
    • Peavey, on 10/16/2007, -1/+2Alright, I won't believe you.

      Hey, you told me not to.
  • betobeto, on 10/17/2007, -4/+2Looks like I'll still have to wait for a version of iCal that is compatible with MS's Exchange server. I know there is a third party app named Groupcal that allows this, but why should I be forced to shell out even more money for it, specially when most every big company uses Exchange for better or worse? As much as I love OS X, sometimes I wish Apple could take their head out of its Reality Distortion Field and take a glance at what users on the Real World have to put up with.

    If I only could ditch this &*^$!@ Entourage client...
    • Altotus, on 10/16/2007, -0/+3Using Outlook on Windows costs money. Why should it be different on the Mac? You can either license Entourage (Microsoft's Outlook for Mac) just as you would Outlook for Windows, use Web Outlook, or pay a third-party for an integration tool that integrates iCal with Exchange. It's part of the cost of choosing Exchange over something that adheres to open standards (like iCalendar and CalDAV).
      If you were a stickler for costs, you could simply choose the CalDAV server and clients for whichever platforms you wanted. There are a number of closed and open-source solutions to choose from. FWIW - I'm sure that Exchange will ultimately support the public standards for calendaring, if for no other reason than Google Calendar's popularity (and it's use of iCalendar, etc.). Microsoft doesn't generally jump on Internet standards until they've already been widely adopted elsewhere. WebDAV is a good example.
    • lrdntwnd, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1Keep in mind that Apple is a company wholly separate from Microsoft. They have products for the enterprise (especially with the new features in Leopard Server) that rival those from Microsoft. Why would they cannibalize their own software to make your life a little less expensive? Rather, what you should be asking is why Exchange isn't CalDAV compatible. If it were, then iCal would work perfectly well with iCal. So, go complain to Microsoft and maybe you'll get some results.
  • griz, on 10/17/2007, -7/+3Nothing about SPAM filtering in Mail. That's disappointing.
    • Altotus, on 10/17/2007, -0/+5It's not on the list because it's not a new feature.
      • mrjofo, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1That didn't stop several other features from making the list.
    • blackjack75, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1Just get a gmail account and forward your mail trhough it. Pretty decent spam filter.
    • superkendall, on 10/16/2007, -1/+2What do you mean, it supports this today!
  • cjwl, on 10/17/2007, -2/+8Could they have milked tabs in Terminal any more?
    • OkydOky, on 10/16/2007, -1/+1Too True...
      One entry for all those Tab "features" would have largely sufficed.
      Then again, that can be said for most those entries.

      In reality this is maybe 50 feature or so.
      • robmcw, on 10/17/2007, -0/+1Forget tabs, the best new terminal feature is:

        Adjusting Window Settings
        Customize the look and feel of Terminal with new window settings. You can set the background color, text color, and opacity of your windows.

        I can't wait!

        There's only a handful of quality features - refactoring tools for xcode is going to be awesome.
  • ericbrow, on 10/16/2007, -1/+2What about the free rag for all the mac fanboys to spooge in? Or is the keyboard protected against that?
  • fraggle35, on 10/16/2007, -6/+4I'm really underwelmed by this list, looks like I won't be rushing to upgrade after all.
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