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- WiseWeasel, on 11/08/2007, -1/+28This is a dupe of some completely baseless article. This whole premise was pulled out of the author's arse with no source info...
- ahhell, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13I'm kind of torn between "Inaccurate" and "Lame".
- manifestdata, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11Computers with lasers on their heads.
- fuzzmeister, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11So, going back to Windows 1.0? Sorry, but I think overlapping windows are here to stay.
- DaffyDuck, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10Unlikely.
- ho0ber, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Sensationalist article.
Yes, Apple application design leans towards panes, not separate windows.
No, this will not change the fact that separate overlapping windows will exist in the desktop. - Novagenesis, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Maybe, maybe not.
It's nice to dream.
I think -positioned- windows are important, but imagine if there was some trivial way to set it up something like, two schemas.
One being intelligently positioned windows (still no need to overlap, really), and the second being fullscreen windows that are rotated with one click or one keypress...
It could work, honestly - Homunculiheaded, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Maybe it's a good question, but even from a marketing stand point I don't think Apple is going to completely rewrite the way we interact with computers in version 10.5, don't you think the redesigning human interaction might at least warrant it's own version number...you know, it goes to 11?
I think a tweaked interface with some new nice features can be expected (hoped for) but reinventing the windowed interface is a bit much (not to mention extremely riskyif it fails) - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3People are rightfully burying stories which are inaccurate, spam or simply sucky. This one is all three!
- Dumbledorito, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I think the next gen user interface should be whatever the hell the user wants it to be. Make it customizable and flexible, and I'm sold. If I want my desktop to look/behave like something from 1996, I should be able to. If I want it to simulate dipping my fingers in a desktop of liquid mercury to open folders and then open files represented by leprechauns by shooting them through the head with a crossbow, then I should be able to do that, too.
And don't tell me none of you want to shoot leprechauns with crossbows. It's a natural instinct. Look it up. - manifestdata, on 10/11/2007, -9/+11Who cares it is about apple! Strap on some birkenstocks and read it anyway.
- himey, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I don't thing anything truly revolutionary is around the corner.
The "cube" is pretty much like what we have now with a cool interface to virtual desktops.
Speech based is impractical. What about privacy concerns? Who wants to sit in an office all day where everybody is talking non-stop to their computer. What about people who work on computers while they are on the phone?
Touch screen? Not very practical. Too hard to type. The advantages over a keyboard / mouse just aren't there.
Minority Report type interface? Not technologically feasible right now. Has the same issues as the touch screen.
Mind reading as you suggest? Well when someone comes up with a machine that can read your thoughts, a GUI isn't high on the list of likely inventions to come along first. And if that mind reading is really cool, I want a Tivo for my Dreams so I can watch them the following evening instead of some lame sitcoms. - jaredseth, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2If you check the blog (here:http://www.blackfriarsinc.com/blog/index.html) of the author of that article, Carl Howe, you'll find that he "has a long position in Apple shares". Is it any surprise that he would submit an article touting Apple's "forward thinking" to Yahoo! Finance? Of course he wants people to think that Apple is about to revolutionize the industry...he has a vested interest in seeing their stock go up in value.
- arbulus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Buried because it's from Yahoo!.
However, the idea of rethinking the traditional UI is an interesting idea. But it seems like there's a reversal trend in the rumour-mongering. Most people think the UI will move away from a windowed environment, to something simpler, or even have a bit of text interface. For example, when you watch the Discovery or Science channels, and programs theorize on the future of technology, they usually show computers with simplified graphics and lots of text, or even simple command line interfaces.
So the theorized evolution of UIs is like a big circle:
command line interface -> simple graphic interface -> simple windowed interface -> fancy windowed interface -> simple windowed interface -> no windows -> command line interface - mthmchris, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2No, it's from Seeking Alpha.
http://www.seekingalpha.com/
Great website. - Majdaa, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2how the hell is he drawing comparisons between the iphone/ipod and a full on computer? paned (as opposed to windowed) interfacese have been around forever..photoshop comes to mind...
- JrGhoull, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1@himey
a minority report kind of touch screen has been built over at MIT (saw a video of it working sometime last year) but probably wont get into consumers hands for a while
while i guess what i was suggesting is a sort of "mind reading" the only reason i am suggesting it is partly because i do not believe we are too far off from it (if not at the point of achieving this). On gizmodo a few months back there was a video (i do love me some videos) of some college students who had figured out how a person could control a toy robot using their brain waves. if people can do this, how far off could the technology for thinking of a specific application and bringing it up really be? - missinglink, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4So just one more way to control the end user experience by reducing flexibility? So goes the Apple way. Simplicity works for some things (like a digital music player). For other things, it actually gets in the way of customization and - therefore - usability.
- lepton, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I think we are trnding toward the kind of apps that want a lot of window space, like iTunes and GarageBand. And, we laptops and other smaller screens keep creeping up in popularity. But windows aren't going away. I think this adds up to a bit more emphasis on multiple desktops - "Spaces". I think these will get more emphasis and more 3D, and multiple desktops may become as easy to manipulate as windows. Overlaspping multiple desktops, for example. Maybe Leopard will encourage and extend these trends.
- yabos, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2"Thus, it's reasonable to believe that there is an ulterior motive. A good motive would be that developing apps for Leopard is going to be very different from developing apps for Tiger, and by "different" we really mean different in every sense of the word."
Maybe the author should actually find out for sure before making things up. Leopard introduces new APIs but nothing much different than programming for Tiger already. If it was going to be some drastic change then people would know about it already. Apple isn't going to dump on developers during WWDC(I'll be there) because it'd be a huge amount of work if all of a suddent they had to change the way they develop applications again. - lepton, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Another trend: I think I'll be using that "Check Spelling" button more often than before... -Mike from http://www.myallo.com
- j3one, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1boom! headshot...
Yah. Pretty much. - xcbxcb, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I remember a one window UI.
It was called MS-DOS 3.3.
Telix 2007 FTW. - BufordT, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Simple, just re-install Windows 95 on a PC or run an OS 6 Emulator on your Mac. (Excpet for the leprechaun stuff, of course)
- mscman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1@ Homunculiheaded:
Nobody says that Apple HAS to version it 10.5. Granted, everything on their website says Mac OS X Leopard, but there is no reason why Apple couldn't change that pre-release. Same thing happened with the iPhone when everyone said "no, they can't call it the iPhone, that's already taken!" What do ya know... they called it that anyway.
I don't think this will really happen, but there is always a possibility with Apple. - dogshaft, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1What's next? Removing windows all together and revering to a command line interface?
- org123, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4How ironic. Your post illustrates your ignorance and elementary knowledge of a computer operating system and well.... politics too.
According to your assessment, you should be running windows (you probably are).
Please refrain from aligning yourself with the mac camp. your are doing us a great disservice - patm1987, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1so... they're making ion wm?
http://modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/
for those of you in X, try it out. Depending on how it's set up, you either get fluxbox style tabs on floating windows, for a grid of tabbed frames. I enjoyed it for the period of time after i got bored of e17 and before beryl. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1That would be the typical mac way though wouldn't it.
Making an interface so simple that even an idiot could use it.
Of course, if its that simple then only an idiot would use it! - BufordT, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Buried already? What the hell is going on with Digg lately?
- ThinkFr33ly, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2The author suggests that Apple's "Core Animation" API will somehow allow Apple to create a new user interface for Leopard that prevents windows from overlapping. He cites Time Machine as an example of a "novel" UI concept that supports his hypothesis.
Wouldn't it be ironic if Apple dropped overlapping windows? After all, Windows 1.0 only supported "tiled" windows. In a sense, they would be copying Windows 1.0. :)
Furthermore, Time Machine has been criticized repeatedly for its UI. Many reviewers found the functionality wonderful, but the UI annoying and gimmicky.
Seems to be that this entire article is some Apple fanatic trying to dream up a way for Apple to take over the computing world and defeat the evil Microsoft empire.
Sorry buddy. Leopard will be a welcome, but fairly incremental upgrade to Mac OS. It won't revolutionize computing for anybody, aside from perhaps fanboys like yourself. - camix, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2This is a pretty desperate article. Apple users are just grasping to anything they can, even though it's all *****, to understand why Apple has delayed Leopard. It's kinda sad to see Apple alienate their loyal apple computer cult so that they can go off and build gadgets like the appletv, iphone and ipod. I mean look at their lame ass macbook upgrade today. I guess they did the right thing when they changed their name from apple computer to apple inc because it seems like they don't give a ***** about their loyal computer base anymore.
- unibomber999, on 10/11/2007, -5/+4Flying computers
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2You can only get RE-elected if you were elected in the first place.
Since Bush wasn't actually elected in 2000 he wasn't re-elected in 04. - dr-steve, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1The election tally for GW Bush was 5-4. He won by a slight margin -- one vote.
- JrGhoull, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2the article does ask a good question...what would be the next level of user interface? perhaps the desktop cube thats so popular in linux will become standard? maybe instead of a mouse or keyboard, people will wear headsets and will just be able to think of what they want to "type" or what software to bring up, and it'll just happen? any ideas?
- Mephux, on 10/11/2007, -20/+2Why unlikely? I thought G.W.Bush getting reelected was unlikely, it happened! Don't be so close minded. I agree with the author and for Apple to have any chance in spreading its great OS and applications to the Windows idiots and regular computer morons, is to develop something spectacular! Having a system that just works is really just not working, respectively to a marketing standpoint that is..
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