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- swaggadocio, on 08/20/2008, -3/+40Apple, speculation, Leopard… Woot! Front page here we come!
- BZKyle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30
http://www.applegazette.com/macrumors.jpg - SgtBeavis, on 10/12/2007, -6/+26Yes, I'm sure that in early April we'll here that multiple anonymous sources have indicated that Leopard will be released in late May. Also, we'll discover there will be a Susan B Koman edition wrapped in a pink bow. Other sources will likely state that this Leopard will change its spots as a new wallpaper and the new AI will be so powerful that it will find Jimmy Hoffa's grave. Lastly, Leopard will come with a new sarcasm generator that is much better than my lame writing attempts.
I was edjumacated in Louisiana. What's your excuse 8-P - longofest, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17I really encourage folks to actually click on the link to read the article. MacRumors acknowledges the fact that the last build seemed like it had a lot of work to go. Nevertheless, when you get stars aligning like that, we had to post something, hence page 2 (MacRumors' page for uncertain news and rumors).
- enicholas, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19I've got Leopard on one of my machines now, and it isn't even CLOSE to ready for release. The latest seed, released a full six weeks after the previous one, barely fixed any of the many serious problems with it. If Leopard were truly going to be released next month, we would be seeing weekly (or close enough) seeds and far fewer problems. It's also worth pointing out that the resolution independence (which has been announced as a Leopard feature) still doesn't even have a UI to activate it, and ZFS (which has not been officially announced and may end up being pulled) just says "Unable to initialize ZFS library" when you try to access it. Furthermore, to ship in April it would have to be released to manufacturing sometime in the next five weeks -- five weeks away from launch, and some of the major features aren't even enabled yet, let alone tested? Again, I'm well aware they might simply be pulled, but... well, this rumor is nonsense either way.
Now, please don't take this as some sort of "ZOMG LEAPORD SUX!!!1" rant. Leopard is going to kick serious ass, and the bugs in it are perfectly understandable for a product a few months away from release. But it most definitely feels like a product several months away from release, not one that's gearing up for RTM. June at the earliest.
Of course, the rumor sites can keep just posting "Leopard released in March", "Leopard released in April", "Leopard released in May" rumors and, sure enough, they'll be right eventually... - guttertrash, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13please. apple dont even know when leopard is going to be released. its not finished, and it wont be released until it is. however long that may take.
- Radan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@enicholas:
Good god, I think this is the third time I write this exact line of text, but anyway here we go.
Apple has never, will never and isn't going to release anything worth mentioning in the public beta before they have showed it to the rest of the world at keynote. The public beta is mainly, or lets even say solely about letting the Third Party developers bug test their applications so that they can make sure that they are up and running when Apple releases the Big Kitty. End of story.
Only a very limited amount of people may download the real beta which includes the fancy stuff that I know that we all like. However, Apple has a very short leash on these bug testers and knows exactly who they are, which also makes it impossible for them to spread the beta as Apple would just sue the asses off them, their grandmothers, parents, friends, neighbors, pets, their friends pets and family, and maybe some innocent random guys from Denmark just for the heck of it. - tbeseda, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Yeah.
Early to late April
1-4 discs
1.5-4 hr installation
2-476 new features
Any other broad/general guesses? - Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"The changes between 10.4 and 10.5 are like the changes between SP1 and SP2 in the MS world. Lots and lots of changes. The only difference is you pay one larger price upfront for MS, and multiple smaller prices over a couple of years for OS X. So yeah, who's going to spend up to $400 on Vista when they can get OSX for just $129/year.."
The most un-informed comment I've seen on digg this year. - Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7..and you don't want to wait another two years either.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I like how when I clicked to read the article, the flash ad in dead center screen was for Windows Vista. Not kidding.
- flashboy131, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5saying you're tired of rumors is so obvious it's uncool.
- jpjandrade, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5And I'm sure that when we find out, it will be top 1 on digg. What about that for a prediction, huh?
- themacman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8a friend of mine knows a developer who works for Apple, and he is pretty sure that Leopard wont ship until July.... because of the pretty major bugs still not fixed, and he has been right before about other apple matters....
I would like to have it sooner than that, but i guess its better to wait a while, if that's what it takes to get a stable and reliable version... - finkployd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6It has to come soon. They just came out with 10.4.9 today and we all know that the next logical step is 10.5.
Now... cue the name numbering war and explanations. - jonahan52, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7It'll be $129 just like every other one.
- Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Sorry for predicting Steve, wont do it again.
- griz, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9Enough with the Leopard release date speculation!!! I'm as eager as the next guy to see it, but making wild guesses at the release date isn't going to make it available any sooner. Until I see Steve on a stage with a shot of the box over his head and a price under it, I don't want to hear about it.
- VhaidraU, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Since Page 2 of MacRUMORS are the rumors they do not believe or cannot verify with ANYONE, I would not put ANY stock AT ALL in this. Sorry for shouting!
- trylleklovn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I wish Apple won't go all Microsoft on this, and keep Leopard from being released before it's finished.
I don't want a half finished product. - cvk_b, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Dammit Digg. How about 'News' 'Rumors' 'Videos' 'Podcasts' 'Profile'. This crap is getting outta hand. Sort it out.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I like the Mac GUI personally, but there is an app to make all your themes unified. It is named(appropriately) UNO (http://gui.interacto.net/)
- Trat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I'm some of a n00b on this, so don't flame me for asking: when Leopard actually gets released, will updating to it be like an update from 10.4.8 --> .9 or do I need to prepare myself for reinstalling all the stuff on my internal drive?
- Skrilla360, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I hope it doesn't come out next month, unless they have fixed the ugly looking GUI; too much inconsistency between apps. I do not like having to use shapeshifter to make the OS look uniform. Finder could also use some improvements :( Pathfinder rules, but I shouldn't have to pay for that functionality either.
- panique, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2All previous major releases have come with an upgrade routine that pretty seamlessly just pops the new OS on top of the old one, all your settings and customizations made at the GUI level remain intact. If you've modified any of the initscripts or conf files under /etc, they will be backed up and replaced by new ones.
- Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'm sure we'll see all these super secret 'features' in Leopard very soon then, eh?...
- yabos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@Radan
You do realize that developers got seeded builds up to and including the RTM build of OS X Tiger? - HyperX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2:O a sarcasm generator w00t I've been looking for one of them for ages... i always find it so hard to write sarcasm GO APPLE
- HyperX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1it will also come with a special disk that will heat up in the drive and when taken out can be used as a coffee warmer
- ilgaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It is amazing that people tries to rush Apple to release an incomplete, buggy, beta quality OS to take peoples money and make 1000 fanboys happy.
For that, you must switch to another companies products. - HyperX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1:O That looks like fun...
An operative deep inside apple has given this exclusive news about 16 core macbook and flash based appletv in the second quarter of 2007 - SoundScape, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm kinda new to this myself, but I'd imagine it'll be like updating from XP to Vista, only much easier. But expect roughly the same install time, and like the Windows upgrade, it's probably a better move to just start from scratch than deal with potential problems with the upgrade.
- ozroy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's only a few months, and they will probably release it with some new hardware upgrades.
If you get a new mac now you will probably end up regretting it when it does come out. - danielwsmithee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2While it is personal taste. I think Apple purposly leaves the Apps with different interface themes. It makes it easy to identify and group windows from Applications. I tried running unified before and I just found it more confusing, but hey to each his own. I would love to see Apple give the users more preferences on themes etc then just Aqua, and Graphite though.
- sweetemotion, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1dugg mainly for the two massive banners for windows vista on a mac site..
- oldnikon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Doubtful info... I can't open the link.
- Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Not quite, fkr3. Both Apple and Microsoft create updates around every month and deliver them over the web for free. However, instead of just patching holes, Apple actually adds improvements to the OS as well. So, while Windows users are waiting years for major service packages, Apple users are getting little service updates every few months.
While 10.5 may not sound much different from 10.4, the changes in each new version of OS X are extensive. It's difference between 95 and 98... it's not an entirely different OS, but it's a very nice update. And you're getting access to these huge updates every two years, as opposed to five.
If you want all the bells and whistles of Windows, you're going to fork out $399 for Ultimate... and it won't work all that great unless you have a fairly new computer. Meanwhile, if you want Mac OS X with all the bells and whistles... well, it doesn't come without the bells and whistles, so you're paying $120 either way... and Leopard can run on a G4. - Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Gentlemen, ready your credit cards!
- fkr3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0If you get a new computer at any time you regret it a month later when the one you bought is 'obsolete' and $300 cheaper.
- nicbrown, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1@enicholas: "I've got Leopard on one of my machines now, and it isn't even CLOSE to ready for release. The latest seed, released a full six weeks after the previous one, barely fixed any of the many serious problems with it."
This is true for any of the OS X Betas that I have run. I suspect that they hold back a number of the fixes for stability issues until the final release.
Having said that, the final release is always as buggy as heck too. Best to wait until 10.5.1 at the very least if you rely on your mac for your income. A surprising amount of developers are not privy to the beta program anyway, so it can take a couple of months until the 3rd party software you need actually runs on a new Mac OS. - nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Oh yeah?! Well I have a bigger penis than you.
- coldphoenix, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Or 10.4.9.1
Really with that sort of logic, the possibilities are truly infinite. - philz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0So?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3Leopard will be released earlier than expected, along with the iPhone. The interface will have a black glassy look to it...there's mine.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -15/+11As a Mac user, and owner of an iPod, I am getting ready to BLOCK the Apple section. I wish they would split the Apple section into Apple Rumor and Apple Facts. I am sick of these ***** rumors!
- Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -10/+6iLife 07 + iWork 07 + Leopard = April 20th @ $179
/crosses fingers.
Putting all them together for more cost than the usual $129 would be a better idea IMO. Look at the price of Vista, people wont mind even paying $199 for that deal, it's makes it one simple decision with all the necessary parts of the puzzle in one box. - sethjliford, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1why? iwant that bitch now, and hey why not include support for the G3 Processor, i would love to have my imac g3 running leopard.
- MJ420, on 10/12/2007, -10/+5O RLY?...Is that something you have been told by your secret multiple anonymous sources? :)
- fkr3, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0The changes between 10.4 and 10.5 are like the changes between SP1 and SP2 in the MS world. Lots and lots of changes. The only difference is you pay one larger price upfront for MS, and multiple smaller prices over a couple of years for OS X.
So yeah, who's going to spend up to $400 on Vista which'll last them 5 - 10 years (based on how long every previous version of Windows has lived ... except ME) when they can get OSX for just $129/year .... - fkr3, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1MS doesn't charge for service packs. Apple does. The price difference for Vista vs. OS X is probably a cheeseburger, and maybe a soda. But not fries.
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