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- kiiwii, on 01/15/2008, -6/+112I hear it's so thin even Kate Moss is jealous of it.
- 93TILL503, on 01/15/2008, -4/+72-------------
- dlxw, on 01/15/2008, -2/+58These charts don't make any sense. Is the grey block supposed to be the thickness of the air? Then why is it blue in the legend?
- rdolishny, on 01/15/2008, -1/+51Is it just me or are those graphs illegible and confusing?
- gordonf238, on 01/15/2008, -1/+33Those are some of the worst size-comparison graphs I have ever seen. I've been staring at them for the past 5 minutes and I still can't tell which is which.
- l33tsauce, on 01/15/2008, -3/+34one thing to note, those other laptops have optical disc drives.
- wassim2k, on 01/15/2008, -4/+32Be careful, if you turn it sideways, it disappears. aren't we all getting a bit obsessive?
- Chirp08, on 01/15/2008, -1/+20(not to scale)
- thebairyhum, on 01/15/2008, -2/+194200 RPM hard drive and no user-replaceable battery = :(
O, you want solid-state? Cha Ching. That'll be $3100, have a nice day.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/15/macbook-air-doe ... - CMiYC, on 01/15/2008, -0/+17I don't understand the graphic. Are the laptops compared if they were laying on top of each other? What is the graphic in the upper left hand corner showing? To me, that one looks like they are all the same size.
I think this one was rushed a little too fast to the web. - inactive, on 01/15/2008, -2/+18and ports, and replaceable batteries, and proper hard drives.
- Dhalgren, on 01/15/2008, -0/+16So, they got a guy with giant hands to do the iPhone ads, right? Are they going to get a fat person to show off this laptop?
- zimmbear, on 01/15/2008, -13/+27very thin
- FitFinlay, on 01/15/2008, -0/+13Worst charts ever!
- Vector713, on 01/15/2008, -1/+13Ya know, you can turn apple-related stories off. Don't bitch, it's your own fault.
- inactive, on 01/15/2008, -4/+16too bad it doesn't have a user replaceable battery... VERY bad stevie... VERY VERY bad
- cbdgr, on 01/15/2008, -0/+12not thin enough to fold it 8 times i bet.
- sysoprock, on 01/15/2008, -1/+12Looks like an awesome product, very thin, very sleek.
The only problem is that whenever you download something it spends the next 20 minutes in the bathroom vomiting. - gpageau, on 01/15/2008, -1/+12Actually, I am an Apple fanboy, but you've got some good points. I've been an admirer of Vaios for years. They are not the most reliable of laptops -- our company owned a few with problems -- but they do have style, performance and competitive features.
- amadeusdemarzi, on 01/15/2008, -0/+11agreed, that ***** was really inconsistent
- inactive, on 01/15/2008, -1/+11That's some state-of-the-art graphics there. Apple oughta use these kinds of models for their ads.
- wdfadude, on 01/15/2008, -0/+9Buried because the charts are indecipherable.
- retral, on 01/15/2008, -1/+10Wow, I was expecting to see actual pictures... not shaded boxes.
- awhiteflame, on 01/15/2008, -0/+8 hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.
- Peavey, on 01/15/2008, -0/+8Is there a reason for the double posts 5 minutes apart?
- EtherGnat, on 01/15/2008, -1/+9If the Eee PC had a screen larger than 7" and/or a resolution greater than 800x480 I might agree with you. The two are aimed at completely different markets, although it should be pointed out you could easily buy a traditional notebook AND an Eee PC for less than the MacBook Air.
- PaulPinfield, on 01/15/2008, -0/+7www.apple.com/uk
Doh! - TheGroje, on 01/15/2008, -0/+7First - it's very very pretty. I'm not an apple fanboy, but I acknowledge that they have a knack for producing the slick, gotta-have-it-in-chrome-NOW gadgets. And the Air is a great expression of aesthetically pleasing minimalist form. It's so thin and edgy, you practically cut yourself looking at it.
But that's about it.
US$129 and 5 days of downtime to replace a diminished battery? http://www.apple.com/support/macbookair/service/ba ...
Micro DVI? - That's at least one extra adapter I'll need to carry in the event I need to hook this thing up to someone else's A/V gear for presentations and such. Two, if they've upgraded to DVI from VGA.
No internal optical drive? - I'm probably one of two people on the planet who still watch regular DVDs during flights, huh? The external Air "super drive" will be available as an accessory, and consume the one (one?) USB port... and it’s good that this will be available because Apple -does- include the install DVDs in the MBA box.
One USB port?
No ethernet port? - So you can access pre-configured wireless APs. But couldn't use this to set up a new one... Unless you buy the USB ethernet adapter and plug it into the one USB port.
One USB port? Seriously?
And if you read their literature, it practically screams "we know what's good for you." http://www.apple.com/macbookair/features.html - 80GB is "plenty of space", not "half as much as any other competitor’s model, but it's as much as we could possibly cram into this tiny package". 2GB of system memory is "way more than generous", not "half of what's available on almost any other platform".
With this tendency to nibble away customary features in the name of aesthetics, maybe next year Apple will come out with two hinged, thin pieces of highly-polished titanium that have the apple logo emblazoned on them and call it the MacBook Vapor.
But it is extremely pretty. - FortyCaliber, on 01/15/2008, -0/+7So thin that you can't even have an optical drive in it.
- inactive, on 01/15/2008, -0/+6Hmm against the XPS with a nvidia 8400 graphics card?
Nope, try again Apple.
And Sony's x505 is about .11 inches thicker than Apple's Air but that was 3-4 years ago !
So how in the hell is it useful or innovative at $1800?! - atbnet, on 01/15/2008, -2/+8How much thinner do you need. The Macbook is around an inch, has a optical drive and you can swap out the battery if you want. And $1300 for the 64 GB SSD HD? Outrageous. What an underwhelming product, sorry Apple.
- Urkel, on 01/15/2008, -2/+7Am I being silly in thinking that "Thin" isn't as big a deal as everyone makes it out to be? The new iMac was praised for being thinner than the old models. CES was all about thin HDTV's. Airbook is praised for being so thin it fits in a manila envelope. Do people really care that much?
I'll be turned off on a product if it's overly-thick, but I don't see myself making a final purchase decision based on which one is thinner. It just seems like there are so many other features that should be more important. - cpalmer74, on 01/15/2008, -0/+5These are the sloppiest visuals I've seen for what should be an concise size comparison. FAIL.
- Peavey, on 01/15/2008, -1/+5Also, the 64 GB SSD is in place of the 80 GB HDD, not in addition to it.
- 4twenty, on 01/15/2008, -0/+4Are these images supposed to mean something?
- neonfunk, on 01/15/2008, -4/+8"remember kids: Apples always about form and not necessarily function"
people repeat this endlessly, but it doesn't seem like they ever really think about it... form and function are not separate-- distinct, yes. but in the case of something like the macbook air, when the most touted function is its portability, the form IS functional. - aaronm67, on 01/15/2008, -0/+4He's saying a 3lb laptop in this market isn't functional, when there are many lighter and smaller laptop. Other then to say "Oh, look how thin this is", when do you actually notice the thickness of your laptop? A 13.3'' laptop is still too big and heavy for the ultra-portable market.
- Vector713, on 01/15/2008, -2/+6Actually sir, the SSD is a $999 option. The other 300$ comes from the faster processor.
- MacnCidar, on 01/15/2008, -0/+4They should've called it the 'Lizzy".
- Peavey, on 01/15/2008, -0/+4No, it does not have any ports other than power, USB, micro DVI and audio out.
- jmreid, on 01/15/2008, -0/+3The battery is $129 and they replace it for free.
So, no huge deal really. If you are the type of person to carry around 2 batteries, then yes. No dice for you. - ausfahrt, on 01/15/2008, -0/+3and only 0.01" thinner than toshiba's ultra thin from last year.
- Balanced, on 01/15/2008, -1/+4I don't think it even tries to compete with the Asus EEE. The EEE seems like it's aimed at 'Utility' usage, wheras this is definitely what I call an 'Executive' laptop.
The EEE's screen (From the Asus web site, not from actual experience) looks like it would be OK for a while. For longer-term stuff, I'd definitely want the MBA's screen.
Storage on the EEE is such that I might be able to justify it as useful for, say, techs on the road for certain businesses. Enough that users could open a terminal, do basic email and internet, etc. Not bad... for what it is made for!
The MBA, on the other hand, is more likely to be the laptop-of-choice for the exec types. The ones who do, to be honest, care more about impressing clients than a lot of other things. The screen is big enough for two to look at for a short period, and it's got the parts to be a suitable. if limited "mobil desk" as long as the user understands the limitations. I am unlikely to buy one... I want to keep my Mac Book running as long as I can... I can see it's value to some people, though.
A lot of people on digg seem to forget that their requirements for a laptop aren't everyone elses. - Ktog, on 01/15/2008, -0/+3I hate non-color blind friendly diagrams.
- no1nos, on 01/15/2008, -1/+4It's like you're complaining that a Porsche Boxster is a horrible car because it can only seat two people and you can't take it to the Midas down the street to get work done under the hood. It's also expensive for it's capabilities(there are cheaper cars that go faster, get better gas mileage, etc.), so Porsche should just stop making them, right?
If you want a lot of storage space and cupholders, buy a minivan. In fact, Porsche even makes an SUV for people that want more room but still like the Porsche brand (Just like Apple still makes the Macbook and MBP!) I apologize that not everyone is completely practical in every single purchasing decision. Some people like paying extra for a product that performs how they want it, looks good doing it, and makes them feel good owning it. - adooga, on 01/15/2008, -0/+3The point made by neil is that weight is more important (to a degree) than size when it comes to portability. Smaller but heavier is more form, less function.
- EtherGnat, on 01/15/2008, -0/+3It was bad enough not having user replaceable batteries on the iPhone, but now they want me to mail in my mission critical data and be without my laptop for a week for a battery replacement? I know an embedded battery allows you to cut down on size, weight, and cost, but it's just not worth it.
- bludragn0, on 01/16/2008, -0/+3Way to go, Columbo.
- inactive, on 01/15/2008, -0/+3I believe a new battery will be $129 + free installation. But you have to ship your Precious into Apple to have it done.
- atbnet, on 01/15/2008, -3/+6You've failed to see that's not my point. This product is stupid. If anything launch Macbooks with the option to have SSDs and forget this sort of 'innovation'. I guess the Macbook is just too beefy for people to carry. I guess they've never owned laptops more than a few years old because I remember my first Compaq measuring 2 inches thick and damn near 8 pounds. I'll take my Black Macbook or Dell M1330 over this any day.
If Apple wants to innovate, give us a laptop around $600. This product is just stuffing little parts in a pretty shell. -
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