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- tanameyer, on 11/13/2009, -1/+53I'm still really amazed at what George Hotz can accomplish. I think that nearly all of the software unlocks have come from him. Back when Apple changed the bootloader on 1.1.2 OTB phones he was the one who found the software unlock. Also more recently the Dev Team had spent months trying to crack the 3.1.2 baseband only for George Hotz to write an unlock after working on it for one day. Truly amazing work.
As someone who needs the unlock to use my iPhone I'm really grateful for all of his hard work. - chris4404, on 11/13/2009, -1/+36Viva La Resistance!
- BoneheadFarker, on 11/13/2009, -5/+38If I buy something, do I own it? Or am I just renting it? If I own it, I should be able to do whatever the ***** I want with it. Don't like it? Then don't sell them. Very simple...
- dyranios2, on 11/13/2009, -6/+34Actually I would rather buy it and change it according to my personal preferences, I hope that's ok with you!
- nickrct, on 11/13/2009, -2/+27All I can say is I'm glad GeoHotz is on our side rather than Apples'
- BionicPimp, on 11/13/2009, -2/+22The lack of "freedom" on the iphone is a classic trait of all apple products. If apple were interested in creating/controlling the platform for mobile computing, they would recognize that all the hacker interest in jailbreaking the iphone is simply an indicator of a deeper need.
is the iphone going to be the 'apple II' of the mobile computing world? taking an early lead, but then giving it all up to some 'microsoft' type competitor simply because it wanted too much control?
"[Grand Moff Tarkin] The more you squeeze the more star systems will slip from your grasp" - Jeff901, on 11/13/2009, -5/+23Simple...get a more open phone like the Droid
- MattBlackCat, on 11/13/2009, -6/+23The malicious petty vindictive intent of apple is what irks me
- IKORKYI, on 11/13/2009, -0/+10To be fair, I live in the same town as Geohotz's grandmother, and all i heard was that he helped Glenn Beck rape a murder a young girl in 1990.
- raynar, on 11/13/2009, -0/+9jailbroke != unlock
- vilago, on 11/13/2009, -1/+10i don't understand why people are comparing the droid to the iphone. i know verizon has better service, but YOUR STILL STUCK WITH ONE ***** PROVIDER WITH A STUPID 2 YEAR CONTRACT REGARDLESS! i think the issue should be no more exclusives. cell phone contracts and cell phones should be separate like church and state. jmo.
- vidcow, on 11/13/2009, -0/+9Actually this article amazes me too, I'm curious to see what his childhood history was like and what he worked on to get to a point where he could do something like this at such a young age. Really impressive.
- digggggggggg, on 11/13/2009, -3/+11I � Unicode
- Truedirt, on 11/13/2009, -0/+8Cat and mouse game. Drum roll please!
- EvilJelloMan, on 11/13/2009, -0/+8Why won't geohotz deny these allegations, unless they are true???
- RonADiSH, on 11/13/2009, -7/+14apple are idiots
- gumballer, on 11/13/2009, -0/+7One does not simply unlock an iPhone
- BoneheadFarker, on 11/13/2009, -0/+7@Snoogs
If I buy an iPhone without a contract or service plan, I should be able to take it to any provider I want. But cell phones are lock to the provider you bought it from, regardless of whether you buy a plan or not. You're right...it's a service, and I should be able to choose any service I want to use MY phone on. To get that freedom, I have to jailbreak it. I shouldn't have to, but I'm left with no other choice. - formfactor, on 11/13/2009, -1/+8You forgot to mention the Dev Team kicked him out for releasing exploit info early.
As if it was THEIR information. He's probably the one that found the exploit to begin with.
Although I admire their work and all, this seemed to be a very elitest move to me. This kid runs circles around the whole team anyways, but its in their best interest to have him as a member, rather than a competitor. - SPECOPS, on 11/13/2009, -1/+8EvilJelloMan, as you go by, get a clue and quit reading gossip logs (and spreading the lies) by the same type of people you like to judge. George left the group and went solo long ago, and has done a great job for the first iphone as well as this 3.1.2 version all on his on with no arguing.
- jessemoya, on 11/13/2009, -3/+10I'm amazed when I meet someone who has an un-jailbroken iPhone. Why wouldn't you? I can't imagine being stuck on AT&Ts network.
- zhiryst, on 11/13/2009, -1/+8By that logic, you'd have to be the kind of guy who always takes your car to the dealership for every last little bit of maintenance, right?
- bolbec, on 11/13/2009, -0/+6Is it just me, or does he look like Frodo Baggins? He's come quite a long way from the shire.
- EntropyFan, on 11/13/2009, -7/+13Why do you pay Apple to treat you so miserably? And what happens when (well, if) there is no unlock?
If you 'need' an unlocked iPhone then what you really need is vote with your wallet and buy something else.
I'll never understand people that bend their wants/needs/way of doing things to a technology instead of using technology that easily bends to theirs. - krisrm, on 11/13/2009, -0/+5Exactly, and there are actually some really nice handsets out there running Android, definitely in the same class as the 3GS; time would be better spent developing applications, or cooking custom ROMs for handsets, rather than constantly fighting with Apple. They don't want people owning their iPhones, fine; the easiest way to tell them you don't support their anti-jailbreaking policies is to simply not buy an iPhone/iPod Touch.
- SPECOPS, on 11/13/2009, -3/+8@jv2k, because the "competition" only allows access to 256MB of the 500MB of available storage, and won't allow you (unless you root it) to store apps on the SD card.
- thephosphorbox, on 11/13/2009, -0/+5webOS hacking and patching is the most unified and seamless effort I've ever seen put forth by a community. Not only is there a steady stream of phone/application patches that enhance the device, there are actually brand new Linux services written from scratch to support technologies that Palm hasn't built in yet (like IRC and on-device file management). They even have an on-device app which you can use to install/manage these tweaks and apps over the air, even telling you when updates for the ones you have installed are available.
Truly truly amazing work by these programmers. And kudos to Palm for being supportive instead of shutting it all down. The exact opposite of Apple's approach. - acknotSW, on 11/13/2009, -0/+5It's insane to believe that you can release something to millions of people and then control what they do with it. Reality will always trump laws and EULA.
- grnicon, on 11/13/2009, -1/+6um. Where are you going to go with that jailbroken phone?
Verizon is CDMA and T-Mobile is just as spotty and crappy as AT&T, and you'll likely be stuck using EDGE on it as well. - MacParrot, on 11/13/2009, -0/+5EXACTLY! This all seems kinda pointless. There are lots of choices now and if you really want to fight against some perceived Apple juggernaut then help support other phone OSes by developing for them instead.
- jv2k, on 11/13/2009, -0/+5The fact that I'm getting dug down shows exactly what I'm talking about. What is with the loyalty to a platform that doesn't work for you? Buy something else and stop bitching about mean old apple controlling you. They aren't the only game in town and they aren't inherently better than the competition.
- jv2k, on 11/13/2009, -0/+4This thread isn't about most people, it's about jailbreakers.
- ricerfuel, on 11/13/2009, -0/+4It about doing what you like with it because you own it, not because some multinational thinks you shouldn't
- Vulphaestion, on 11/13/2009, -0/+4Because I would love 3G.
- Algan, on 11/13/2009, -0/+4If I'm hacking my own iphone, I m not an outlaw. I am merely breaking a contract that many, including myself, believe is unenforceable since it goes against current laws. If Apple has something against it, they can sue me. Fortunately, unlike RIAA and MPAA, Apple is not stupid enough to sue their own customers.
- Otto, on 11/13/2009, -1/+5@EntropyFan: I didn't buy an iPhone until the 3GS came out (bringing the hardware up to my needs) and it was jailbroken (bringing the software up to my needs).
If they come out with a software update, I don't update my phone until there's a jailbreak for it, plain and simple.
Apple's iPhone software doesn't meet my needs *but* it's close enough that it can be modified to fit my needs. Easy. I retain the right to modify my own stuff as I see fit. - norsurfit, on 11/13/2009, -0/+4Apple is overlooking the obvious solution....Give this kid a $250,000/year job working for them, and he will sell out quicker than you can say "jailbreak."
As a bonus, they would get an employee who appears to be an incredibly talented programmer... - madmaxmedia, on 11/13/2009, -0/+3It just depends on where you live. I will only go with a service provider than delivers really good signal in my house, which AT&T does. I live in Los Angeles, and otherwise don't see that much difference between the different providers- each has their own dead spots.
I understand that AT&T could totally suck in other areas of course. - formfactor, on 11/13/2009, -1/+4was this meant as a joke? If so, your punch line delivery needs work.
- madmaxmedia, on 11/13/2009, -1/+4If your first preference (after all considerations) is a jailbroken and unlocked iPhone, you can always wait until there is an exploit before buying. Then just don't update your phone until new exploits are released for the new OS.
That's probably what the poster you replied to did. I doubt he bought a phone with 3.1.2 and was waiting around for a new exploit, he was probably running 3.1 jailbroken until blackra1n came out. - dhmlco, on 11/13/2009, -1/+4I jailbreak my phone for the freedom! For the extra functionality! Because it's my phone and I should be able to do what I wish with it!
Now... ah... what's the name of that site with all of the cracked applications again??? - macslut, on 11/13/2009, -0/+3@Jessemoya,
He's right.
Jailbreaking allows you root access to your iPhone. You can install apps on it from Cydia. You can install SSH on it and move files on and off it. You can customize it. Put apps in folders. Do all kinds of stuff with it. Whenever I get a new iPhone, I always feel like it's crippled until I can jailbreak it. Also you can change the root and mobile passwords, which makes the iPhone more secure (not just for SSH reasons, but also if someone gets physical access to your iPhone you want the root and mobile passwords changed whether you're jailbroken or not). Look online and you'll find bazillions of reasons to jailbreak.
Unlocking allows you to take the iPhone to another carrier. Jailbreaking is the first step in unlocking, but you don't need to unlock your iPhone just because you jailbroke it. I've never unlocked any of my iPhones, because I live in a very good AT&T area, coincidentally(?) close to Steve Jobs. - rnawky, on 11/13/2009, -0/+3That's why people rejoiced when Apple FINALLY brought MMS and Copy/Paste support to the iPhone right? Because that wasn't really a problem.
- Elranzer, on 11/13/2009, -0/+3Fire Ze Missiles!
- NeoTechni, on 11/13/2009, -1/+4"their product, their show."
Up until the point where someone buys it. - rnawky, on 11/13/2009, -1/+4I heard the Droid blows the iPhone off the face of the earth.
- MacParrot, on 11/13/2009, -1/+3Wow that was clever...oh wait, what's the opposite of that?
- JTMON, on 11/13/2009, -0/+2The fact of the matter is that Swift2 is really an idiot who just happened to read one of the latest stories about a worm infecting jailbroken iphones. And the ONLY reason that's possible is because people LEAVE THE DEFAULT SSH PASSWORD AND DON'T CHANGE IT!!.
- fangorious, on 11/13/2009, -0/+2That only works in a country with one standard. VZW and Sprint are, I believe, compatible on 2G and 3G, but won't be on 4G. AT&T and T-Mobile are compatible on 2G, but not 3G, but then they might be compatible again for 4G, and possibly also compatible with VZW (since they're all going with LTE for 4G), unless they manage to all go with different frequencies. Until all the networks converge on a single set of protocols AND frequencies, exclusive distribution contracts between manufacturers and carriers is a moot point.
- rebrad, on 11/14/2009, -0/+2Why put up with the Apple dictatorship. Go Android.
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