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- jt767, on 10/25/2007, -15/+2719Yeah I found whats wrong, that POS pic needs to be rotated by 90 degrees.
- jt767, on 10/12/2007, -13/+708I fixed it, you don't have to thank me.
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/789/diggmacpicaw8.jpg - Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -16/+573I'm sure the mouse reference was wrong, but I can't remember what it says as I too broke my neck looking at the image.
- BevansDesign, on 10/12/2007, -14/+497The correct answer is Xerox.
- latova, on 10/12/2007, -4/+269I found whats wrong: WHERES HIS LEFT HAND?
- CrimsonBlur, on 10/12/2007, -15/+218Talk about a ***** job by the book's editor! The text reads "Windows was the first operating system to develop a mouse for use with PCs". Not only is that completely inaccurate, but in the picture he is using an Apple computer! WTF? And yeah, frickin'a, man, rotate the damn picture before you upload it!
- kcpwnsgman, on 10/12/2007, -7/+179there are many things wrong with that image, Xerox made the first mouse system, that image is of an Apple, and I have no idea about the first copy of Windows, I thought it was 1983 on the top of my head, probably am wrong about it though
- drouk1556, on 10/12/2007, -1/+162No, the problem is that the part in the boy's hair is a little bit TOO straight, even for 1985.
- fivestarsoul, on 10/12/2007, -5/+126Is he fapping to colored blocks?
- LindzUSA, on 10/12/2007, -10/+117Actually the people saying this is wrong because Xerox invented or integrated the first mouse with a PC etc....
They did use a mouse before Microsoft but not on the 'PC'
a. they where not the first to invent or use it on a computer, Stanford University actually invented it and used it with NLS, Xerox simply used the research.
b. Xerox used it in WIMP on the Alto computer which was not in any way a 'PC'.
So Microsoft was actually the first company to develop a Mouse for use on a PC.
However that is definitely an APPLE in the picture :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_graphical_user_interface - lunasunshine, on 10/12/2007, -3/+961. Because it's a picture.
2. Because it's about Apple & Microsoft.
3. Because it offers a challenge. - Splizxer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+91http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4955/dsc00276yn6.jpg
am i doin it rite? - rockforever, on 10/12/2007, -32/+119Hes using a Mac.
- MtnXfreerider, on 10/12/2007, -14/+98http://www.4pron.org/general/b/src/117711624771461.jpg Mirror.. to rotated copy (I know jt was first, but his is through imageshack...)
- cr125er, on 10/12/2007, -14/+95This made the front page HOW?
- NewChar, on 10/12/2007, -8/+87Should be "quite."
- ggko, on 10/12/2007, -5/+75> Hes using a Mac.
Not quite.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_IIgs - Simplex42, on 10/12/2007, -4/+72I don't think I've seen so many wrong guesses in a digg thread yet.
What's wrong with the pic is its text claims "Windows was the first operating system to develop a mouse for use with PCs".
First off, Operating systems don't develop mice, that statement makes no real sense. At the very least it's a grammatical mess.
Next up, it's not a PC running Windows, but is an Apple IIgs. It's not a Mac and it's not running MacOS, but GS/OS which looked very similar. The IIgs was releases in 1986, so both Windows and Mac OS (at the time just called system software) predate it.
The Macintosh system software (1984) predates the first release of Windows (1985), both of which were released after the Lisa and its mouse driven OS (1983)
Even earlier are the Xerox Star (1981) and Alto, both using a mouse, a device first worked on at the Stanford Research Institute in the 1960s.
Part of the text is correct, depending on how you define "PC". Remember, "PC" was not a term widely used to describe the IBMPC in a way that differentiated it from any of the other number of personal computers at the time. - merripen, on 10/12/2007, -8/+74Actually, that was Xerox.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+60No, it's his shirt. The ugliest thing I have ever seen.
- SillyRabbits, on 10/12/2007, -7/+63@mv10
Do you realize that you linked a picture with Steve Balmer and not Steve Jobs? - fowleryo, on 10/12/2007, -12/+63it's sideways?
- kipcrist, on 10/12/2007, -16/+66@lindzusa
You're right except about MS...Apple 'stole' the idea from Xerox and developed the mouse into the Lisa. Microsoft conned Apple into giving them prototype macintosh systems and stole the GUI and mouse from them. - zjordan04, on 10/12/2007, -6/+54Who doesn't get off to colored blocks?
- KamikazeeDriver, on 10/12/2007, -3/+49"man, rotate the damn picture before you upload it!"
No kidding. C'mon, how flippin hard is it to rotate a pic before you try to make a Digg out of it.
On 2nd thought, how does someone who doesn't know how to rotate a picture, even find Digg? - runbmd, on 10/12/2007, -5/+47Definitely something wrong. That kid needs to take an ergonomics class. With the keyboard positioned as it is, he is going to develop carpal tunnel syndrome in no time.
- Jual, on 10/12/2007, -3/+43Douglas Engelbart of the Stanford Research Institute invented the mouse in 1964, not Xerox
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Mouse#Early_mice - fegul, on 10/12/2007, -17/+55actually Al Gore invented the mouse.
- aussieNickuss, on 10/12/2007, -7/+37"Apple 'stole' the idea from Xerox"
Didn't the Xerox execs reject the idea of the mouse that their team had developed and invited Apple to check it out? Then Apple used it on the Mac and Microsoft then "stole" it from Apple. - antrios, on 10/12/2007, -9/+35And use it to make to keep their cars from rolling down the driveway.
- bebop717, on 10/12/2007, -4/+28Could someone also fix that glare from the flash while they are at it?
- Sippi, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27No his left hand is under the desk!
- scarper86, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21There's nothing wrong with a left hand under the desk while you're looking at a computer monitor. What's not normal is to do it while he's looking at that.
- Netrilix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21@sillyrabbits: That could be why it says Balmer and Gates right under the link. Just a guess...
- rdrr, on 10/12/2007, -17/+37Hate to burst everyone's bubble but God invented the first mouse.
- niczar, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23Not a Mac, an Apple II GS.
- TheGuruStud, on 10/12/2007, -9/+28@kipcrist
I love how poeple digg you down for 100% fact. Hell, even Gates himself will admit it. - robdazomba, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20> You're right except about MS...Apple 'stole' the idea from Xerox and developed
> the mouse into the Lisa. Microsoft conned Apple into giving them prototype
> macintosh systems and stole the GUI and mouse from them.
Not quite. Apple didn't "steal" anything from Xerox. Apple got Xerox's permission to use their ideas and paid them for it (yes, Xerox profitted from Apple's use of their ideas, so it's hard to call that "stealing.") Further, Apple developed Xerox's ideas, adding a lot to it. The concepts of the desktop, menus, trash, drag and drop and other things were Apple's ideas, developed by Apple, so that's not stealing either. MS came along and took all this without paying anyone for it and without adding any of their own ideas. That's stealing as far as I'm concerned.
BTW, this isn't the opinion of a Mac fan. I'm a lifelong Windows user and have never owned a Mac, but at least be honest about it. Apple paid for it and developed it further. MS stole it. - tugger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17This is the pic that Bill Gates did for Teen Beat whilst he was developing windows, draping himself seductively across a desk...
http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/tech/images/bill_1983_1.jpg
You can clearly see the source of his windows inspiration just over his right shoulder...
is that a mac se, with an icon-based mouse-driven windows environment...??? - teiren474, on 10/12/2007, -13/+291. pic needs to be rotated 90 degrees
2. thats a mac in that picture ( should be a pc)
3. Microsoft dident invent the mouse... im pretty sure someone else did
4. i don't think thats bill gates
5. if you think about it that pic has completely nothing to do with the wording below it - phantomgrave, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Looks like he's drawing his shirt on the screen.
- Skanadian, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15@RogerStrong
He means his brother is 8 years old. - zweben, on 10/12/2007, -18/+32Xerox invented it, Apple was the first to widely implement it.
- CatalystDM, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Thanks to Google, I just learned the definition of 'fapping.'
You learn something new every day. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+22Theres this little feature that is part of this Digg website. You see, when people 'Digg' this story, it makes it popular, therefore sending it to the front page...
Now you know, you wont ever have to ask that again. - Speed, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Actually, if you ask anyone who actually knows something about computers (not just new mac users who believe the Mac Ads about "PCs are only computer that run Windows"), you'll find out that Macs ARE personal computers. Ask Steve Wozniak what he's credited with inventing, you'll learn its the PC, even though what he invented was an Apple.
- Zera, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12My Mom is an Elementary School Librarian, and she's found dozens of children's books with false or misleading information. Buying quality children's books is difficult because everyone and their brother thinks they can write children's books. Famous people are especially prone to think that they are good children's authors. For them it is an easy way to make a buck and somehow feel that they've 'given something back'.
Even Terrell Owens has written a children's book. Children's books just aren't held to this type of scrutiny, so errors like this slip through frequently. - CrimsonBlur, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11@stevealford
Did you actually look at the picture and think before you posted a reply, or did you just automatically want to try to show everyone how "smart" you are? I know PC means Personal Computer, and Apple computers are in that category, and especially then the term didn't apply almost exclusively to "IBM Compatable" computers like it does now, or, more correctly now, anything other than a Mac. The point is, not only were they factually incorrect about Windows being the first OS to use the mouse as an input device, but they're also referring to the Windows operating system while it's obvious in the picture that the kid is using an Apple computer, which obviously does not run Windows. Seriously, do people not know how to use simple reasoning anymore when reading Digg posts or what? - charliecharlos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Is he getting off to spreadsheets? O.O
- DelMonte, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8"Nope. DOS was. Microsoft was bundling a mouse with Word a year before the Mac came out. Granted, Gates was also demoing an alpha version of Windows the year before the Mac, but that wasn't released yet so it doesn't count."
You seem to forget the Apple Lisa, which was also released one year before the Mac, in January 1983...
Anyhow, Microsoft got early access to Mac development prototypes years before its release because they threatened Apple by saying they would not release Mac software if they didn't grant them this exclusive access. MS even managed to make Apple cancel their MacBasic program using the same threats.
Work on the Mac started at the end of the 70's with a team of people that worked on GUI concept on their own before Xerox did (Bill Atkinson for example, conceptualized Quickdraw in the 60's). The Mac team had some inspiration from Xerox, no doubt about it, and many Xerox employees willingly went to work at Apple during the Mac development phase. Interestingly, the Xerox team was also inspired back by some of the Mac concepts, like putting icons on a desktop.
But the Mac team couldn't try to make a carbon-copy of the Xerox OS internals even if they wanted to, as the Mac specs were too modest compared to the Xerox hardware. Apple did have to "invent" their own ways of doing it so that it would fit. Apple is also responsible for "inventing" some GUI concepts like the menu bar and scroll-bars which didn't exist in the first versions of the Xerox OSes.
On the other hand, the first versions of Windows, were developed with the idea of porting the Mac versions of Word and Excel to the x86 platform. With early access to Mac dev-kits, the Windows team set a goal of reproducing all needed Mac APIs on top of DOS so they could port their Mac versions directly. The result is that the first versions of Windows have a suspiciously similar set of APIs and internal structures. -
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