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- consonance, on 10/11/2007, -5/+27Have fun writing HTML.
- whurley, on 10/11/2007, -5/+19Please feel free to leave comments, and suggestions here on Digg. We'll go through them an edit ideas into the iPhoneDevCamp website daily.
- mthole, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8@meatmcguffin: I am planning/working on creating such a site. It will be designed for use on the iPhone, and will let users both find new iPhone apps and serve as an app launcher for their favorites. I plan to run the site at http://mojits.com (mobile + widgets ~= mojits). Its vaporware now, but stay tuned.
- HunterTV, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9"This one time, at iPhone Developers Camp, I stuck a Wiimote in my..."
- meatmcguffin, on 10/11/2007, -4/+11I have an idea....we need a macupdate.com style repository for iPhone apps
Nothing to do with your project but seeing as you'll have a lot of developers there..... :) - colincornaby, on 10/11/2007, -6/+12You know, I'm sure people will write cool stuff in JavaScript for the iPhone, but as a Mac developer, I can't help but to feel that without the ability to write real code for the iPhone, Apple is wasting the potential of the iPhone. Want to write a VOIP app? JavaScript can't do that. How about an asset management app that uses that camera as a barcode scanner? Can't do that. JavaScript can't touch the camera, much less read a barcode from it. How about coding an app that uses multitouch for something cool? Nope. JavaScript can't touch multitouch stuff. Multitouch is one of the coolest things on the device and Apple is preventing developers from tapping it's potential.
I'm sure there are going to be some cool web apps released for the iPhone, but I won't be coding for it until we get a real API. Apple could have handled some of these issues by included Flash or Java support, but nope, they cut those things too. - ZogDog, on 10/11/2007, -7/+13Just please, make some freakin sweet apps.
- pyrotix, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Make an app that will play YouTube videos
*grumbles about no flash on iPhone* - underburn, on 10/11/2007, -11/+15WEB apps, are still apps - *****.
- TimDigg, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Just remember it started out with mobile phones, then pdas, then the wii, and now the iphone(basically a pda)....then you'll have something like the Microsoft Surface
totally different devices, different needs, different capabilities...
it will be interesting to see what happens - intellimouse, on 10/11/2007, -5/+8@jakebarnes + underburn: You are both obviously ***** retards that have never programmed a day in your life or else you'd know that Javascript+HTML is extremely limited. You obviously have never looked at what's available to a programmer for Windows Mobile or the Palm OS and compared it to this ***** that Apple is pushing.
So, in short, please make sure that you have an IQ > 80 before posting. Idiots. - ravenzachary, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7I can't wait to see you all at the iPhone Developers Camp!
- redfox2600, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Hey I just though of something. For web apps to work you need a server right since I assume they don't have PHP or SQL preinstall on the iPhone. So who going to be hosting all of these apps? I mean not everyone has a server the can handle a huge community if the app is popular enough or the money to pay for it.
Yes I know some web apps can be saved to run off line but then what the point of a web app without the web? - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3The plan is that you might be able to run the application offline because its in your cache.
No one knows if it will be possible or if Apple will have a sort of "offline repository" in Safari or something.
A lot of people say they do know though, on both side of the fence. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2@kelly: http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=56115
"Videos on YouTube are streamed through an Adobe Flash player." Interesting. - jakebarnes, on 10/11/2007, -11/+13It's free you dumb useless ***** of a person.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2This is so super gay it's laughable. Are you seriously arguing that the iPhone rocks because your 'app' can still run because the browser has cached it? You do realize that ajax requires a remote call mmmkay?
- TimDigg, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Just out of curiousity, what is everyone's thoughts as it relates to to living in a world where the web is constantly being changed to meet the needs of various devices......
Shouldn't we look to more standards, so everything isn't so fragmented?
All I know is that the W3C has got its work cut out for itself... - fjc8, on 10/11/2007, -9/+10Yes! Because you can write such responsive and advanced applications using JavaScript, HTML, the DOM, and XMLHttpRequest. Not to mention their ability to run without a network connection, efficently use memory, process advanced graphics, play sound, etc...
I'll take Windows Mobile or PalmOS instead, thanks. Platforms that run real programs that are compiled to machine code, not intepreted and partially dependent on a web server. - whurley, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5Can't wait to hack on this with you Raven.
- underburn, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5San Francisco, CA!
- ckstjohn, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4Can't make it in person but hoping to participate remotely.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2oooo what a riot! How come I get the feeling that there is like this pathetic underwhelming response to the iPhone 'development' scene but the sheer fanboyism makes it seem like its going to be this huge juggernaut of '3rd party apps.' You do realize that any PDA with ajax/browser functionality can visit your little iPhone sites? So leet!
- MaverickC17, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2iChat! iChat! iChat!.......that's all I have to say
- fjc8, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Try Minimo, Opera Mobile, and NetFront... all of which have been around for longer than the iPhone...
..not like AJAX is that great compared to native applications, which you can write on platforms supported by Minimo, Opera Mobile, and NetFront.
(Opera Mobile is a port of the Opera renderer to Symbian and Windows Mobile devices... it's not Opera Mini, which is the Java 2 ME server-assisted web browser.) - meatmcguffin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Sounds great! It would be cool if you make a version that will run on the iPhone as well :)
- blakestar, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1With a few Nokia handsets + iPhone running WebKit, just wondering if widgets will be easily deployable to both. Sly move Apple!
- cleverboy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Ironically, that's also what I'm doing at Figma.com (App Launcher, Community, etc). FiGMA - Find iPhone Games, Media, and Apps. We're still in the design phase for the app, but should have everything rolling for launch. Also, the site is geared towards being an iPhone users/developers forum. I'm pushing to make it chock full of developer information in the coming week. Please stop in, register and say hi. Whurley, I'll be posting your event in the calendar in the next day or so. Good luck with it!
- cleverboy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I think there's an inherent problem in railing against reality... you don't really get to appreciate what you have. While you won't be able to do certain things, most importantly for MOST of the people looking to get the phone... it will be theoretically more "crash" proof. If you would settle for a less "stable" OS and open development, I'll wager you're not in the majority. That said, people who want this "openness" can simply get another phone, until iPhone comes around. Open Moko comes to mind.
If I have 6 apps, sitting around in open tabs, and they're all saving update information into cookies, in a lot of ways, most people aren't going to miss scanning bar codes. I'm not entirely sure you're correct about the capabilities of Javascript however. Blitting a camera-taken image to a CANVAS tag, and reading in the pixels and processing the information isn't exactly outside the realm of pheasibility... is it? We'll certainly find out. - scottschiller, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Re: "Have fun writing HTML"
It's worked pretty well so far for the web (how do you think you're reading this, for example?) - not to mention JS, CSS and images. Don't diss it just yet. - crossers, on 07/18/2008, -0/+0great, I think it's good idea and everything will be sweet!
http://www.shpe-sac.org
http://www.ocflex.com/
http://www.trgovinca.org
http://www.chasr.org/ - Sendss, on 10/11/2007, -7/+7It says iPhone! Dugg!
- b05q, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2be careful before you deploy your apps! remember, you could take down the whole AT&T network if you let the wrong exception go unhandled.
- plutpwnium, on 10/11/2007, -7/+7Oh God.
- rgoodwin, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4I'll my best to develop whatever I can, if I can get my grubby mitts on one of the little buggers. :)
- colincornaby, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1To be fair, I think the iPhone's browser is the only PDA browser with AJAX functionality (at least full AJAX functionality).
- robdazomba, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1> Yeah, but they aren't iPhone apps... any friggin' phone can read a web site...
Right, but it seems likely that, to avoid confusion for people, the iPhone app will probably include some user agent checks that weed out non iPhone visitors. Expect a big ol' "You're not using an iPhone" or "Proceed at your own risk" message on your Nokia. I'm not crazy about that idea, but I see why the devs might want to do it in some cases. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -5/+4If this is how the next two weeks are going to be (an iPhone digg every 2 minutes) I think it's a good time for a digital vacation.
Is anyone going to point out to Steve that "Web 2.0" apps can't use his precious multitouch?
/ The iPhone, just one more 4.5" thing for Mac fanboys to rub on. - Jeffrey903, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1I would love to go, but I live in NY. Maybe if this gets big enough, I will fly out!
- kelly, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Youtube doesn't use flash.
They use Quicktime (MPEG4 = Quicktime) - steveooo, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1Hey Check out the iPhone Application list@
http://www.digg.com/apple/iPhone_Application_List - lordmike, on 10/11/2007, -11/+8"WEB apps, are still apps - *****."
Yeah, but they aren't iPhone apps... any friggin' phone can read a web site... - whurleygrrl, on 10/11/2007, -6/+2Sweet!
- digitalarcanum, on 10/11/2007, -12/+8jesus christ can we get an iPhone section on digg so I just ignore it?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1You don't need that when you can make a YouTube that will play on an iPhone
- stuartjmoore, on 10/11/2007, -8/+3Digg - good idea for an iPhone web app
gas prices - good
RSS reader - good
iChat - debatable
address book - very bad idea
Just depends on what you make. - sgr215, on 10/11/2007, -8/+2Can't wait for the iPhone to be released. Perhaps then we'll stop being flooded by iPhone advertisements. One things for sure, whoever was in charge of marketing the iPhone sure deserves their paycheck.
- lordmike, on 10/11/2007, -27/+11Developers camp? Are you serious? The iPhone is closed... designing frigging web pages is hardly "Developing" for the iPhone... what a joke...
Once again, the iPhone is completely closed to third party development... case closed... Web pages don't count as apps... You can't develop any apps for the iPhone, so just stay home....
Why would anyone waste their time and money on something so ridiculous is beyond me....
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