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- gerkin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9tired of reading "may" and "might not". Someone please just boot it or STFU. No one knows what's going on, all these articles are strictly conjecture.
Sure the 945 chipset "may" boot windows. It also "may not". Show me the money!
No digg - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Who in friggin' hell wants to boot xp anyway?
- drakino, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Agreed with Gerkin. Someone buy a new iMac, and hack at it. Until that happens, stop posting crap to blogs to generate traffic about what may or may not work. This is getting worse then all the wrong rumors leading up to Apple events.
- gerkin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2can't believe this made the front page. This is about the 4th or 5th variation of "it does", "it doesn't" in the last few days. we're getting dizzy already.
Tempted to make a story "Dogs may be able to fly" and see if I can get it on the main page too ;) - synmoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This article is written very poorly. Says OSX when he means Windows.. says 'it' when he meantioned EFI and meant BIOS...
- trogdoor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Someone should have just gone to macworld with a bart PE boot disk and ended this a long time ago.
- cusoman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"After"...?
After what? - eltoozero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Thanks, I already knew it *might* boot.
I say again, it is silly to assume that PC manufacturers would simply NOT use a new Intel reference platform until Vista comes out, Windows Will be updated to boot from EFI, or someone will come out with (and support) a compatibility module for the EFI.
Remember apple's not going to try to keep you out of windows or Linux, but they're not going to give you drivers and support either.
nodigg - standsolid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Dammit people.
If YOU can't figure it out, someone else probably will.
I'm only interested in seeing VMWare get some software on osx/intel. That will be hot. - mingistech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"May" boot!!!
wow this is soooo awesome!! this is the kinda breaking news i visit digg for! - nogami, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0deepsub: Why wouldn't you want a laptop that you could run every major OS that you like on? There are LOTS of great applications (not to mention games) that have not, and will never come out for OS-X... Wouldn't you prefer spending the money on a machine that runs _everything_?
- flock31070, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0There have been reports that hackers have beaten Apple's protection. Why is it any different now?
- jellomizer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I am sure this weekend some people will be getting the New iMacs and I am sure there will be some who will document how to put XP on them and if it will work or not and by Next week it will be common knowledge. If the answer is No then in 2 more weeks I am sure there will be a 3rd party patch that will allow it.
- deepsub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Why would someone buying a Intel based Mac want to boot it w/XP?
- csselement, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0choices, deepsub...choices. i'd like to be able to install whatever i wanted one the machine i spent $2500 on.
- Arkitan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Ummm ... actually the prices are identical, maybe you just haven't looked in a while :P"
Yes the prices are identical, what you fail to realize is that the computers are balls faster than before, for the same price. - cwcentral, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Come-on it's Intel-based. As long as Intel sticks to it's roots, some hack will be found that will allow the new Macs to run Win/linux/etc.. and other 945 base devices to run OSX. Encapsulation is a great concept.
If Intel built a one-off technology for Apple, then the old days are over. Onward to AMD (well I think it's already onward to AMD or even Cell). - lepton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If the Macs don't boot XP, Apple could say that they don't. But if they do boot XP, Apple CAN'T say that they do. If they say that they do, they would have to support that statement. Therefore, I take the fact that Apple says nothing as a boost to my _guess_ that they will.
- akamia123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Apple is typically cryptic in its response on the issue of whether Intel-based Macs can run OS X"
I know it's a typo but I just think that is a pretty funny mistake. - gerkin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Looking at the prices for Mactels, it seems to have dropped significantly from the PPC models and since there is some level of x86 compatibility, a more convincing buy"
Ummm ... actually the prices are identical, maybe you just haven't looked in a while :P - suppazone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0damn - how long is it gonna take before we see some results here??? I mean iMacs have arrived to a lot of customers. Lets hear it...can it be done or not? No more speculation. Facts only
- kuya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Stop complaining people.
If this article wasn't posted, you wouldn't have an article to waste your time on. - amphora, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Who cares? Linux supports EFI now...
- zodieman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Everyone is now talking about booting Windows on the new Intel Macs. What I want to know is, what has Apple done in the final version of OS X to prevent it from running on whitebox PC boxes? The dev version was hacked to run, now that it's out I wonder who much they learned and put in. Did they use some DRM? Did they couple it with some extra chips to auth the kernel? Are they using EFI to prevent that?
As for booting Windows directly, I don't care about that. VMware is where it's at! Those Core chips have virtualization built-in. - Svenson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Tomorrow on DIGG it will say the exact opposite...AGAIN!
- PseudoCyborg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It might rain tomorrow. It also might not. News at 11.
No digg. - hayden.evans, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0NO! THIS IS TRUE! i recently attended mac world and the apple devs that i saw said there is nothing preventing anyone to partition and boot into windows, BUT apple isn't going to promote it by saying it does and no there is no Apple specific licensed copy of OSX that runs on a piece of crap because of hardware specific encryption so keep dreamin cheap bastards!
just buy a mac, you'll thank me later - Psykus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Apple has taken a lot more protective measures for locking OSX86 onto Macs than in the previous leaks. In the end, trying to run OSX on a non-Apple system is going to be a PITA, and probably not worth it at all."
No, it's just going to take the work of a couple of hackers, and then the rest of us won't have to do anything special at all; the work is already done. - sud0n1m, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Lets get it started:
http://digg.com/apple/Contest_to_Boot_Windows_XP_on_Intel_Mac - nullmind, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0People, like myself, boot things that aren't compatible all the time... Had to get new shoes..
- neofactor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0who the hell wants to dual boot XP and OS X?
Give me virtual PC on the mac intel... I can live on my mac and use the occasionall Win app without leaving the mac behind. - mortenlund, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I cant get to the site - DIGG starting to give Slashdot effect ? (sending to much traffic to websites)
- burndive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"It might rain tomorrow. It also might not. News at 11."
This would be big news in Dallas right about now.
The mere possibility has us OS junkies drooling. - deepsub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Wouldn't you prefer spending the money on a machine that runs _everything_?"
Heh... you guys take me too seriously. I was trying to make a joke, apparently, it didn't work. - rabiddogma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Okay so Apple execs have said from the begining that they would have no problem with people dual booting Win on Apple Intels, so what is the story here?
- screamokid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1COOL, wouldn't want xp on my mac anyway, turned my mom's dell into a mac lol
- jdong, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Apple has taken a lot more protective measures for locking OSX86 onto Macs than in the previous leaks. In the end, trying to run OSX on a non-Apple system is going to be a PITA, and probably not worth it at all.
Looking at the prices for Mactels, it seems to have dropped significantly from the PPC models and since there is some level of x86 compatibility, a more convincing buy.
The Windows booting thing is the last piece of the puzzle, and I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks together an EFI bootstrap for XP... Once in a while there is still some software that demands Windows. I, as a Linux developer and enthusiast, hate that as much as anyone else, but for now it's a fact of life.
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