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- Callidus, on 10/10/2007, -2/+52I'm going to pistol whip the next person who says "after the jump"
- filefly, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18Translation: "What happens when you run out of desktop space on the iPhone?"
- yokozuka, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11It doesn't void your warranty. You can hack it with no fear because if your iPhone ever needs repair you can restore the software using iTunes and it will be totally clean, like when it came back from the factory.
- JGuest, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10The newest version of NES.app for the iPhone works almost perfectly... a HUGE improvement from the earlier versions. I would recommend going for it.
- proghead, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Mmmmm... pistol whip....
*drool* - xposiactionx, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10MAC: Hey Farva, whats that thing you say when you want someone to click your link?
FARVA: After the jump?
MAC: OHHHHHH! *hands over gun* - proghead, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7the ***** shut up
(yoda remember?)
also it might help to read the comments. - vrillusions, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7dugg for the yoda holding an iphone
- chawkie, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9This is getting very, very tempting...now if someone would just get that NES emulator (or even better, an SNES emulator) running at full speed...
- JGuest, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6There is a program named Launcher.app that sits on your desktop, it can launch all the "hidden" apps you have installed.
- fahrvergnuugen, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I had my "hacked" phone replaced under warranty - no questions asked. I actually had a defective phone, it shut off one day and would not turn back on.
- snozle, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5we need a repository for 3rd party apps with reviews. There are a ton of them out there for the webapps, but none that I know of for native ones.
- coderedfilm, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5ok, so how the hell do you get the nes roms onto the phone???
- seekandestroy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4No hacking skills required.. if you wanna be alone yanking it to gadgets all your life. In reality..
Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills. You know, like nunchuck skills, bowhunting skills, computer hacking skills - br0ken1128, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I went ahead and did this, and then installed the 3rd party sources so I'd have SSH .. this is the one app I've been wanting! I liked my old pocket pc phone mainly for the ability to SSH .. everything worked like a champ!
- quazywabbit, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I don't see how it would be breaking the warranty. The most you would have to do is have everything wiped and restored on the iPhone and it would be back to factory defaults.
- WiseWeasel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4There seem to be plenty of open source packages available in Installer.app... Not sure why you gotta be hatin'... Keep in mind that many of the iPhone developers are coming over from the MacOS world, where there isn't such a bias against closed source software. If the releases are coming from trusted sources, with a history of making nice apps, and they work well, then I don't give a rat's ass what license it uses... If open source projects are better than or equivalent to the alternatives, I'll use that; otherwise, closed source it is...
- enderiii, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4fyi: Windows version is being worked on.
- jer.williams, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Install worked like a charm. I imagine using the terminal might be a little scary to some people, but there's nothing to it.
- smxy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4IMPORTANT TIP: after you have Installer installed, the first application you should install is Launcher. This is because the SpringBoard doesn't scroll, so you need a place for your apps to show up. If you don't, then Installer will get pushed off the screen where you can't get to it. With Launcher installed, that won't happen.
- dareiff, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I went ahead and took the plunge.. Here's to hoping a few 'better' basic apps come out soon.. I couldn't care less about the NES Emulator.. Give me twitter and .. something else..
- lupinglade, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3You are spreading FUD. I left osx86 because you were spreading FUD there too. Find something better to do. Obviously you have vested interest in this. PS. There is nothing wrong with closed source software, or maybe you should stop using the iPhone altogether? Since its closed source, hmm? Go work on your code, instead of spreading lies. Kthx.
- WiseWeasel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3VNotes (voice notes/recorder) and NES are pretty killer... The Lights Off game is also fairly slick and challenging...
- m00gg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Mad props to Nullriver and the sources community for pulling this together so quickly.
I wonder how Apple will respond? I for one hope they will let this organic growth flourish! - BRadZ15, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3most amazing thing. EVER.
- WiseWeasel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Doom is a tech demo, and they haven't figured out how to implement controls (no idea how you could do a 1st person shooter on a touchscreen without hooking up a mouse and keyboard anyways). Of course the NES emulator comes without games. It would be illegal for them to distribute any games with it. Google is your friend if you're looking for NES ROMs, however... I had good luck with moreroms...
- toolsdrummer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2"Right now there is a hard limit of the springboard that only allows 20 icons. You can install a third party app called launcher that will give you room for more."
-Terc - enderiii, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I've run this over a hundred times. I've only been forced to do a restore when I was messing around with trying to make it so you don't have to hold the power and menu button. (Which means no brick)
- proghead, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3video of installation and operation? sorry im just really paranoid about bricking it.
- drjones78, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2There is an application that acts as an App launcher, that you can install with Installer.app.
It makes sure to put an Icon for it on the springboard. When you click it, it will bring up a list of all the 3rd part apps on your phone. Hopefully one day, Apple will modify spring board to have pagination or something along those lines.
Things are starting to take off... I have a good 15 extra 3rd party apps on my phone now. - lupinglade, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2If you get this, try it again. Known issue that seems to happen sometimes.
- WiseWeasel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Since the Installer.app folks are running the repositories, and they already list some detailed info for each project, it would be nice if they also added user reviews and such to their website. It seems they're doing a site redesign anyways; here's hoping for this addition...
- MiDri, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Buttons still kinda suck... =(
- Burn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Don't you guys actually bother to actually read other people's comments? He not only said "Launcher.app is open source, we released the source", but also linked to the damn source code.
Sheesh. - badjoke, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I was scared too, and it worked very easily. Just make sure to hold those buttons for a long time (past the restart). First time, I didn't hold them long enough but the terminal just said "gotta hold them longer buddy!" or something of the sort.
- omnivector, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2hey lupinglade, I'm not trying to enter said argument here. I just have a question -- why did you guys choose to make installer.app closed source? not a flame or anything. I'm just curious what your reasoning is.
- lupinglade, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Check the facts first: http://www.nullriver.com/~zigzag/Launcher.src.zip
Nullriver made the MobileTerminal icon and contributed it. Get a life. - lupinglade, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You moron, its because he made the MobileTerminal icon too. (And I am him...) Also, someone actually contributed the Installer.app icon to us, we didn't make it. As far as stealing... Launcher.app is open source, we released the source, try http://www.nullriver.com/~zigzag/Launcher.src.zip . Next, we were first to the table with an installer -- how is it that we are stealing anything? So far we see that they are stealing from us, but you dont' see us trying to spread lies and FUD. To each his own.
- DJCraig, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I tried it, and this is what I got in the command line:
...
5 FilesystemCheck 1...
6 FilesystemCheck 2...
7 Mounting File Systems
8 Moving files into place...
Failed: (6) RecoveryDittoFileCopy: Operation Ditto failed
I can't find any mention of "Operation Ditto" anywhere on the Internet! I tried searching Google, the iPhone Dev Wiki, the comments on here, the gizmodo site and comments, and the iPhone hacking forum, no mention. My iPhone seems to be unaffected. - WiseWeasel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Agreed. I wish they would focus less on making the controls look like a NES gamepad, and more on making them USABLE...
- JonLatane, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Problem is, since UIKit is similar to OSX APIs, it's pretty much all Mac developers making iPhone applications. Since the typical Mac developer is also a Mac-exclusive user, it's not likely any of the people doing this hacking care to develop a Windows version. It will probably take another team to port it/rewrite it.
- mingistech, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Mac only for the time being.
- Terc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Thanks for at least citing me.
I have since realized that both installer.app and launcher.app are closed source. They may not be such a good choice because there is no way to know exactly what they are doing. (no way to look through the source for malicious code)
Having said that, I still think that the installer and launcher are well built apps (Launcher needs some attention before it's on par with Installer.app) If you're still interested go here:
http://iphone.nullriver.com/beta/ - smellytim, on 10/10/2007, -5/+6man this is a really tight application. i wish i knew some good apps
- enderiii, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It should be working in theory... but it crashes at a certain point ;)
- enderiii, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You can install Installer.app using iBrickr but for some reason it says the package is a highly experimental beta which... it isn't. As you can tell from all these posts, it's working pretty well.
- DAllenJ, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1What about making the desktop scroll, like the contacts list?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1So is this compatible with Windows (XP or Vista)? or is this a Mac only thing...
- PacketScan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Get it.. Use it... Love it....
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