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- canthraxp, on 05/25/2008, -3/+24"...user expectations rise along with it. But lately, it seems, expectations are soaring ahead of what the industry is providing. [[[[I don't have any data to prove it]]]], but my own observation is that...
Thank you computerworld for reminding me how much your articles suck. - TheLoneWolf071, on 05/25/2008, -3/+22The problem is that no phone maker has sat down and gone "Wait, why don't we stop trying to nickel and dime our customers and just give them everything in a phone?" Each phone brings somethings to the table, but no phone is perfect.
- iKomplex, on 05/25/2008, -4/+19Your comment is a bit confusing, but I get what you're trying to say. I agree, Apple deserves credit for revolutionizing the market, and even though there are others who may disagree—saying that "[insert cellphone/smartphone brand] did this first and Apple copied that, blah blah blah..."—the truth of the matter is the industry has always believed in "revolutionizing" things by exclusively evolving the hardware. Ever since the iPhone entered the market, defying almost all paradigms, the industry has discovered (with great irony!) that the software matters the most importantly, and that it (the software) should serve to complement the hardware not only to make it functional, but also to make it flexible as well. This new shift in direction, I think, has shaken-up the industry and has now created a degree of excitement that will only flourish into better products to come.
- supermanred, on 05/25/2008, -5/+18No offense but if you find an iPod touch to be anything but simple to use, you really haven't done your research and tried to use the mp3 features of basically any other device on the planet. Especially cel phone "mp3 players"... I see it with my friends all the time. They say things like "My celphone has a music player too...watch" after about 20 seconds of waiting for the music app to start up I am already walking away.
- piwy, on 05/25/2008, -2/+15It's not a status symbol when everyone has it.
- superkendall, on 05/25/2008, -4/+17I would say the new release due in June shows a lot of signs of Apple working on the OS as a whole, stability along with features.
- supermanred, on 05/25/2008, -0/+12If they improve the camera on the iphone, add 3g and gps, plus of course make it a bit fatter for the battery needed to run all that *****, they win. I love this damn phone. I used to use my ipod a lot and I still use my iphone the same way, to the point where it startles me when my music is interrupted by a ringtone...I actually forget its a phone sometimes... it really does stand alone as an organizer, email, web browsing device that much.
Can't wait for the software update in June that makes the jailbreak apps into iTunes App store apps. Mine is "unlocked" and I am using it in Canada with Rogers for 24 dollars a month. :) I know where all the missing iphones have gone... to Canada. I dont seem to find any problem finding peripherals, covers, etc for my iphone even though it isnt legally here yet.
Why does this damn input box for comment keep bouncing up and down....DIGG FIX THIS!!! - bjstiktrix, on 05/25/2008, -3/+14Take it as you will, but I have an iPhone and my friend (who has a BlackBerry) constantly asks me to look up things (wikipedia, youtube vids. etc.) while we are together. I give him a hard time but I think the truth is that quickness and ease of use really come in to play...
- inactive, on 05/25/2008, -4/+14sony is releasing such a phone, although I dont know about the UI, for many users it does not require relearning much of anything.
http://www.sonyericsson.com/xperia/
available second half this year, meaning people who claim to have them in stock now, usually for $250-500, are scammers. I have seen a couple of those already.
But a real slide out keyboard, gps, full non-crippled bluetooth stack, wifi, 800x480 lcd, blah blah blah. - rebotfc, on 05/25/2008, -0/+10It's amazing how many diggers digg the Xperia and slate the iPhone for being about style over substance.
Every god damn video of the Xperia is about 'style' or 'image' , in their ads they even use iChat screen shots to promote this thing.
Get back to me when we see the interface. - mj1903, on 05/25/2008, -1/+11Oddly I also have the same experience. My friend has a Blackberry for work but when he wants to access his works intranet he uses my iPhone instead of his Blackberry mainly because the rendering and navigation of web pages on the Blackberry stinks.
- sadilak, on 05/25/2008, -3/+13Nope, The IPhone has a very easy to use interface and is in fact really good. It is the functionality and form factor. It has nothing to do with a status symbol. It is a good phone. I used to be a die hard blackberry user, but now am a Apple user, Yeah, I am a Apple Whore alright, but then with a reason. It is a product that is very intuitive. Who cares if I have to host application through ITunes, or download applications through ITunes, It dones not make any difference.
- rebotfc, on 05/25/2008, -1/+11I doubt that is true, if you are putting mobiles under that much strain daily then i doubt any phone will survive.
- taosbob, on 05/25/2008, -6/+15I wish you had been more specific in your criticism. Choice of operating systems? Reliability? A variant of BSD unix is a bad choice? My own phone has been incredibly reliable. Basic features missing? I wonder why the iPhone had a 28% market share of the smart phones in only six months if it's so problematic. "No amount of development dollars is going to fix these issues. . ." Your own comment smells like a troll to me.
- thedragon4453, on 05/25/2008, -1/+10Eh, I am not that impressed. Mostly because the site was virtually useless. I clicked the "film" link, expecting to get some kind of demo of features, and instead a get paper airplanes which I assume symbolize sms messages. Because sms is groundbreaking.
It might be interesting, but, and I've said this before, pay attention to the experience that apple provides, not just the feature set. Even something simple like the iPhone commercials. Its not a piece of marketing fluff. They just show what the phone can do. - supermanred, on 05/25/2008, -1/+9With the June update (coming soon) the iPhone's mobile App Store (of which Im sure most of the apps will be free or under 5 dollars anyways) will make the iPhone pretty much the first mobile phone with an installer app to install new features while on the road. It's going to beat Android to the punch.
- slifty, on 05/25/2008, -3/+11Predicting Apple? Now that's a bold move...
- itsontheway, on 05/25/2008, -2/+9Looks alright. But will it be a crippled POS just like the rest of the devices released in the US?
- supermanred, on 05/25/2008, -2/+8Same here. It also takes my friend a hell of a lot more time to "type" anything. He mentioned to me that my keys (which dont really exist as keys per-say) are at least twice as big as his.
- Startemus, on 05/25/2008, -0/+6There's a reason many say good things about the iPhone...
*sits down in pre-dug hole, awaiting burial* - pu-z, on 05/25/2008, -1/+7I've tried out the Touch Diamond, at the European release. It suffers from two things: Windowitis and a really bad touch screen. HTC has made a really good top layer for the Diamond, it is smooth, nice to look at albeit a bit confusing. But that doesn't matter, as each time you try to do something for more than 20 seconds, the awful Windows interface comes up in some form and totally ruins the HTC design.
The touchscreen is very, very hard to use, since it relies on firm contact with the finger. I gave up trying to finger type with it, and had to use the included stylus.
The design and the form of the phone, how ever, is very nice. It is a very good size and include a lot of nice features like HSDPA. - DreamSynthesis, on 05/25/2008, -0/+4Doesn't look like it's available in Canada. Then again nothing is available in Canada (iPhone) so that's nothing new.
- superkendall, on 05/25/2008, -3/+7One small comment at the end of the article noted something that I'd always thought - adding the ability to use an external Bluetooth keyboard to the iPhone would bring a lot of physical keyboard-dependent people over. It'll be interesting to see if that's supported in the next release.
- WaterMedia, on 05/25/2008, -1/+5This article is simply lame. This phone exists, and it is called the iPhone. The "problems" are your preferences.
- pu-z, on 05/25/2008, -3/+7A friend of mine works as a plumber, he says the iPhone is very durable and has no problems with it. He does recommend a rubber protection skin for it to absorb the worst damage though. His company introduced the iPhone (in spite it's not for sale here yet) to the plumbers in the company since the HTC phones were crap and failed a lot.
- MacParrot, on 05/25/2008, -0/+4Well, he didn't say it well but I think I know what he meant and it's the reason I went with an iPod Classic instead of an Ipod Touch. Lack of tactile feedback with the Touch screen. I mostly use my iPod while driving and I don't even have to look at it to change modes, switch to podcasts from music. ect because I know where the buttons are, what order to hit them for common functions, and I know I hit them correctly when I can feel them under my fingers. Don't have to take my eyes off the road.
The iPod Touch on the other hand without that tactile feedback, you really can't feel your way through the interface. You have to look at it to make changes. - slifty, on 05/25/2008, -3/+7I prefer 5G
- catachip, on 05/25/2008, -2/+6Bull *****. You can't pull out that defense in an attempt to minimize the performance and achievements of the iPhone in regards to UI. Sorry, you fail.
- fugazied, on 05/25/2008, -3/+7I love my ipod touch, it is very human friendly and easy to use. The only issue I see with touchscreen interfaces is hitting the next button while I am driving or on a bike. With a normal mp3 player there is some tactile feedback (eg. a real button) you can kind of blindly feel and tap. There has been some talk of tactile feedback in an upcoming touchscreen device, that would be great.
- oleoleo2, on 05/25/2008, -1/+4>It's Samsung, so the UI will be easy< LOL!
Samsung has got the worlds worst UI on the planet! It took me 9 steps to send an sms on the one I had until 3 months ago, I'm neverever gonna by that junk again. If the technology forces you to learn to do things in a certain way, it really has to be a brainless intuitive design, if someone should make a UI that is better than the one for Iphone, it should be the technology that should learn how you wanna do things instead.. - BrendanSheehan, on 05/25/2008, -1/+4"although I dont know about the UI"
So you don't know about the most important part? - abhiroop, on 05/25/2008, -0/+3No offence but this is EXACTLY why you'll never be working at Apple. Their whole motto is that they keep things small compact and simple. I'm sure if they wanted to implement something like this they could. But Jobs knows there are too many other issues. For example he would think where would people carry the keyboard? Isn't that why he didn't want a stylus for the iPhone? Because people could lose it, etc...
- ripple123, on 05/25/2008, -2/+5you brought a s to the table.
- inactive, on 05/25/2008, -0/+3that is nice and all, but without add on apps that have the same functionality its not likely that it will be as good. For example I use tomtom on my phone, with a bluetooth gps (hint its not an iphone because apple wants people to use their patented serial port interface so they get a cut of the money). I cant use that on a platform they dont support. Well the same is true of other apps, yes there are some that are being developed, but there isnt the mass development for open moko that may exist elsewhere, and until that happens production runs will keep the phone more expensive than it really needs to be.
- fugazied, on 05/25/2008, -1/+4Dunno, that keyboard looks damn tiny....
- Kinnkster, on 05/25/2008, -1/+3They'll never do something like that. If there going to go with something, its going to be 100%. They dont want people not even giving the virtual keyboard a try.
- ligyron, on 05/25/2008, -5/+74G is where it's at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G - Kinnkster, on 05/25/2008, -1/+3You seem to have missed the point of the article.
- inactive, on 05/25/2008, -3/+5Apple isnt about functionality its about getting a niche market. Its because of Apple domination of IPods that the music industry has lost about 50% of its revenue due to a change in technological dominance. The IPhone is not the future in that Apple wont allow various phone companies to compete with its hardware. So its a niche product of a minority of users. Apple at best is a trailblazer in technology but because of the snobby facsist nature of Steve Jobs, Apple is never going to seek a market share that Nokia covets and maintains. So Apple is not going to be the company that creates a universal mobile phone. That will be Nokia's job since they seek to share with all markets. Apple doesnt seek all markets. So apple for all its investment will not have the same hold as Nokia.
- arnthorsnaer, on 05/25/2008, -1/+3>what better way to make a good phone then to have an open one
Price, usability, features are some of the things that come to mind. Why do you think that the fact of it being open would make it good? - antonio97b, on 05/25/2008, -1/+3No job requires an iPhone. You get it becuase of it's features. A cell phone is a luxury don't forget.
- mr_yuk, on 05/25/2008, -0/+2My iphone was stolen last week while traveling so I picked up a blackberry curve as a stop-gap until the 9th. The menu system of the blackberry just doesn't work for me like the iPhone. It may be the way I think, but the iphone is just so much easier to get information on a daily basis. As this point I'm planning to return the blackberry Tuesday, pick up an iphone, and bank on the Apple return policy. I'm just not happy with the curve.
- cipher64, on 05/25/2008, -0/+1The finish line is a device that can do it all, the ultimate convergence. I don't need a set top box to download shows for me if my phone can do it and just hook it up with a tv or better yet it has a nice projection technology in itself, same goes for a gaming console. Rest of the media is already being handled by the phones. Cell phones are the new PCs, which for the most part will become obsolete.
- ronmexico, on 05/25/2008, -0/+1I kept looking for the really neat feature you think that makes this a great phone but I couldn't find it. It's not a bad phone, but it's also not something I would buy. You flip through pictures on at a time until you find the one you want to see then tap it to see it full screen? Brilliant. The music player looks like you're always in preview mode, I assume there is more to it that they are not showing, but then the question is why are they afraid to show it off more. The mail feature just seems confusing as all get out. I guess as long as you will enjoy it knock yourself out.
- robogobo, on 05/25/2008, -0/+1you don't even own one, do you?
- mkrygeri, on 05/25/2008, -1/+2I am a user of the ATT Tilt and I can say that the functionality is nearly there but the phone has to be molded in that direction. PointUI is a good a good UI for people looking to simplify things.
It's the customization ability that makes WinMo work for me, but sometimes I want to throw it right in the trash can.
if Sony can pull the UI off without trying to copy apple, it'll be a winner. If they chase apple like samsung did, they will wind up with a very small piece of the pie. - Atomic1fire, on 05/25/2008, -0/+1And the fact that the phone is completely open means the design can be new and innovative
whereas other phones will use a popular look because its the one everyone likes right now.
like flip phones and iphone lookalikes
not to say they are bad but originality should be an option - shauncorleone, on 05/28/2008, -0/+1No offenSe but if it's an option accessory, then what's the big deal? For instance, if I run my own business and it causes me to travel a lot, perhaps I want access to my e-mail both for reading and composing in a car or an airport. I shouldn't need to unpack my laptop while waiting for a flight to fire off a couple 200-word e-mails, should I? While the touch-screen on the iPhone and other WinMo phones (like my HTC Touch) works for text messaging and brief e-mails, my old Blackberry was far superior for writing lengthier messages. I would love to have all the other benefits of the iPhone and still be able to throw a fold-up BT mini-keyboard in my pocket for when I need to compose a substantial message.
^^This reply was only 133 words, and it would have taken 10+ minutes on any touchscreen, predictive text or not. - inactive, on 05/25/2008, -1/+2but isnt that cdma? Doesnt that mean that it wont work in many places around the world? And the gps data in cdma phones is not just available to the user or when you call 911, it can be retreived at other times (and it does exist on the cdma chip itself as opposed to an external chip elsewhere, so disabling it means disabling the phone).
- ultimateXhobo, on 05/25/2008, -1/+2lol as if you don't realise the best things about the iPhone are the Apple OS, and the fact its touch interface is so good it doesn't need ***** slide out *****
but X is cool I guess… yeah if your 12 -
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