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- Miniman, on 10/12/2007, -6/+44Its
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Hard. - maninblac1, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24Technically, yes. As long as they are the same speed and layout SS or DS. You'd also have to be careful with timings.
Most OEM memory is either agressively timed or passively timed. A MacBook Pro is likely to be agressively timed to see an extra performance boost. So you'll have to get quality memory with some decent timings. If you buy value RAM that doesn't perform well at low latency you'll have some compatability issues. And likely, freezing and all those other crazy symptoms apple users claim they never see because of their godly OSX.
If you don't put the right set of hardware in to begin with, you're doomed from the start, no matter what software you run. - MattyLite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19In case the manual is too hard to read . . .
- totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -9/+25I guess Mac users aren't the only ones who are "smug"
- seanmc303, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18You guys just don't get it. Apple has magical elves and crazy smart rocket scientists make their ram. That is why their RAM cost so much more than Corsair and Mushkin's performance RAM. It is magic RAM.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+26I just don't get it SugarRay...do you really not care how ***** pathetic and stupid you sound by suggesting that people need to buy a new PC evyer year? And how people who have ZERO problems with their Windows PC are somehow doing something wrong because YOU are so ***** worhtless that you can't use a PC without having problems?
Let's see. We all use it with ZERO problems . No bus, no spyware, no viruses, no Blue Screens of Death. And yet WE are the idiots becuase unlike you, we don't have problems ?
Even YOU have to realize how ridiculous you sound. - mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Accidently buried you, but seriously, this on Digg?? Ouch.
- SwabTheDeck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10This is weak sauce. Try installing RAM in the Mac mini, that's where the fun is. There's no screws or anything on the case, so you have to use putty knives and slip them between the cover and the base to pop the clips (took me 3 trips to home depot to find putty knives that would actually fit in the slot). Oh yeah, and you only get one slot for RAM, that's where the fun ISN'T.
- khyberkitsune, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10@twatwaffle
Apparently you don't read about the geographic locations printed on most Motherboards. See where it says "Assembled in...?" I'll bet it says either Guadalajara, or Taiwan. If it says Guadalajara (where most iBook mobos were made at that point and time,) you had a 66% failure rate directly off the line. That meant not total failure, but just barely enough to be worth replacing the bad component. I've opened up new boxes of replacement logic boards to put in iBook models and had SAND come out from under ICs.
Apple is just shoddy at it's QC, and that's why it's expensive, plain and simple.
-Former Apple warehouse employee - shortstack, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16i'm a mac user and knew i could do it.
did it too.
i think they were just trying to show people how, if they didn't know. you know, be helpful like. - knightblade2oo4, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13only mix the same CAS latency.
- maninblac1, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Short answer yes, computer hardware is computer hardware. It's all the same no matter what you buy from who. Nothing is going to change because of new hardware. It's still all the same.
- Scruffydan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12@ twatwaffle
"Apple takes a higher sampling rate for quality control at the factory they get their store stocked memory from. That cost gets passed to the consumer."
Apple Memory is even more expensive that good branded PC memory such as Kingston and Corsair. That stuff has a VERY low failure rate, so I do not see why Apple needs to have a higher sampling rate for quality control. I doubt that Apple RAM has a much lower failure rate than Kingston, Corsair and other quality RAM companies.
"The installation fee is included in the purchase of in-store memory."
Does Dell, charge you an installation fee? I don't think so (I have never bought from them so I am not sure). And as you can see from the video it is a 5 minute job at best (the video was only 2:12 min long) and I am sure Apple can so it even faster.
Apple memory is so expensive because in general Apple charges a premium for anything they sell. In some cases the Apple product is better than the competition (although not more expensive to manufacture) and the "Apple premium" is justified, in other cases (such as Apple RAM) the "Apple premium' is not at all justified. - keikun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9exactly my point as well
- melmyfinger, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Is it okay to mix and match sticks of RAM made by different manufacturers? For example, OWC 1GB + Apple's 1GB
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Put down whatever you're smoking and shut the hell up.
The only thing different between apple cert ram and good quality stuff from corsair etc is that the apple stuff has a miraculous ability to empty your wallet faster. - MCMLXXXIV, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9How did this make it to the front page?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13If you realy believe all that nonsense, then its time to stop drinking the koolaid.
- oOLiquidNightOo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8this should've been submitted under video > comedy.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Scruffy...a whole ***** of Dell users can install their own RAM. You have ANY evidence to the contrary?
- Scruffydan, on 10/12/2007, -12/+17and this is why apple can charge so much for ram. of course how many "dell users" can change their own ram.
- insomniac8400, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6WOW, what a great tip. I never knew you could install your own ram into a computer. Oh wait! Yes I did, because I am not an idiot.
- k4zz4m, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5serously. its printed in the user manual. its not like apple wanted to rip you off.
- abohling, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7And I'm sure no where on the internet exists a video on how to install ram into a PC. The majority of computer users don't understand the inner workings of the machine and these videos just help demystify computers.
Adding or replacing RAM is one of the first things I teach people to help them get over the thought that doing anything inside the computer is scary or hard. - MisterEd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I am just waiting for someone to follow these steps and fry their nice new RAM chips with static electricity.
Nowhere in the instructions was there a mention of static electricity and the dangers of it when working with computers. The amount of static needed to fry something like a RAM chip is a lot lower than the amount needed for the spark to be felt. You can fry a chip without even feeling anything.
When doing work like this, do yourself a favour and get an antistatic wrist bracelet and know how to use it. Attaching the little clip to a wooden table won't help you. If you don't want to do this at least make sure you are discharged before touching the RAM. - twatwaffle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5There really isnt a such thing as "Apple Certified" RAM anymore. Applecare on the new intel macs covers any and all types of RAM. I forget the term - its something like "user friendly" installation... something to that effect.
- Jaymoon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Was just going to say something along the lines of "I've seen plenty of how to add RAM to a PC video....".
But yeah, for all the people out there that aren't quite sure that they can even open their computer, let alone add new parts to it on their own... Well this video is for them. Rather than spending hundreds at Best Buy for them to do it for you in 2 minutes.
You're telling me that when you were first introduced to computers, that you automatically knew what each part did, and knew exactly what parts you could easily replace/add? - ajimmykid, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11ebay is also full of cheap RAM because a lot of people are chucking their factory ram to upgrade to the max (like in the MacBook Pro, 512mb is included, but to upgrade to 2gb, you need to get rid of that 512mb).
i upgraded my MBP to a gig with $25 (+ $4 shipping) 512mb stick from ebay. - arachnist, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Ok, this has gotten too far. I, for one, request "bury: YALMA" (Yet Another Lame Mac Article) feature.
- Kajico, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Great this gives more fodder for PC users to throw at Apple users...
I can just hear them now: You guys need a video to show you how to change memory...
seriously I've never bought memory through Apple when I can find cheaper prices through pricewatch.com - JeffH, on 10/12/2007, -9/+13So you get charged $400 extra so an Apple guy can install the RAM himself, and because they "check" their bargain basement RAM before they stick it into the machine? Sounds like a deal to me!
People accuse Geek Squad of ripping them off ($40 for RAM installation). Why is there not such a huge uproar for the outrageous prices OEMs are charging (with an emphasis on Apple, since $400 over the cost of RAM is more than i've ever seen). - Wooism, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4What kinda article is this? You do it JUST LIKE ANY OTHER FREAKIN PC
- pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3you could install it yourself instead of having best buy do it, thus saving money. i believe what the article is getting at is similar to cooking at home. while you aren't making all the ingredients from scratch, it can cost less than going out to a restaurant.
- JeffH, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Ebay is hands down the most horrible place to buy computer components, no questions asked.
I'm glad you had a good experience. But It's far too easy for someone to get ripped off on ebay for computer parts. Especially people who need articles like this to teach them how to install RAM. - Wavey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I remember what it was like to upgrade a 128K original Mac into a 512K Fat Mac. Now THAT was some fun...yikes. Today's Macs make it relatively simple.
- SwabTheDeck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The PowerPC G4 Mac minis don't use DDR2, they use regular DDR. For whatever reason, when I bought mine, it was advertised as PC2700, but the stick I got was PC3200. It probably makes no difference because the FSB is a dog at 166 MHz. So, obviously no dual channel with only a single slot, but the Intel ones do use dual-channel DDR2, I believe and have two slots. Dual-channel generally doesn't make any difference unless you're gaming or doing something intense (not really possible on a G4 mini) but the obnoxious part of having one slot is I can't just add a stick, I have to throw out what I already have and put in something new. Mine came with 256 megs, and I upgraded it to a 512 stick, but OSX is such a whore for memory, I want to get a gig. If I do this, I will have basically gotten rid of two perfectly good sticks of memory that I don't really have use for in my other systems and really aren't worth the trouble of trying to sell them off. My buddy and I both bought PowerPC Macs like 2 months before the Intel announcement and we're both pretty pissed about it now, but I think I'm gonna be going for a Merom Macbook when they come out. Hopefully, we're going to be hearing about it next week.
- twatwaffle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4http://www.marketingshift.com/2006/8/downfall-digg-forthcoming-here-why.cfm
is why it made it to the front page - JeffS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3How lame. Maybe next they'll show us how to hook up a USB device.
- AngryBoy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Why is there a guide for this? The instructions for upgrading RAM are printed in the manual.
- master_of_fm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2video reminds me of the crappy haynes manuals for cars. they always have that classic line in the instructions "installation is opposite of removal"
- maninblac1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Canned air is an upgrade? That's pretty messed up, i guess at the price of canned air you may need to call it that to justify the price.
- deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2People who want to install their own RAM want to "auto pilot everything"? That doesn't even make sense.
- porkstacker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yes, Other Wolrd Computing's instructional videos are very helpful.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Everyone should report this guy to abuse@digg.com - he's gaming digg. Don't believe me look at some of his submitted articles - then look at who dugg them. It's pretty much the same users every time.
- arizonagroove, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3The title and summary are inaccurate beacause they refer to 'your Mac' and 'a Mac' when in face the video describes how to install memory in one particular model of the Mac range and is no use to people who don't have that particular model.
The submission is lame, because instructions on installing memory are provided in the booklet that's in the box with your Mac. If you want to know how to install memory in 'your Mac' read the instructions that Apple gave you with it. - broken1812, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4seriously
- Virion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I hate to say it, but geez, I own a MBP and find it silly that a video was made to upgrade the ram, I mean its pretty damn easy, though the old Compaq lappy I had only had one screw, maybe the two here are the tough part.
Okay, joking aside, I'd probably send this video to my ma and pa if they had a MBP, but this seems a bit too simple for digg. Not bad, but simple. Now, upgrading the HDD might be more interesting, then again the MB is pretty easy now and a rev is sure to change that for the MBP. A video of that higher-res screen mod posted a while back, that would be on target. - nahdan, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9with an attitude like that, no wonder you don't work at apple anymore.
- kodek, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5"You guys just don't get it. Apple has magical elves and crazy smart rocket scientists make their ram. That is why their RAM cost so much more than Corsair and Mushkin's performance RAM. It is magic RAM."
Besides, lately the elves have been dying, and the cost to replace them is pretty high. - kolop1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4 I though Mac people were supposed to be more intelligent. Why do they need a guide on how to install ram.
Whats next Mother board replacement...oh wait. -
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