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- tibe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Some of you people are so short sighted, 'muldoonaz' I'm looking at you.
Imagine... your (non existent) 51" HDTV with the new iPod video dock connector on it and remote. Your friends (also non-existent) also has a 52" HDTV... you run around with your iPod video and dunk it in their dock connector and start watching whatever freaky ass pr0n your into. Genius isn't it?
Apples website even says: Buy it. Watch it. Bring it.
The concept here is portability. All your stuff in one white shiny box. Yes you can watch it on the 2.5" screen when your bored on the subway because your VW Golf GTI is also non-extant.
Anyway I hope you can start to see the uses for this, however I would imagine seeing you have already spent up large (non-existent) dollars on 20.1" dual LCD's and your HDTV you won't be buying one of them for awhile yet. - zwilliams, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@ BlueStarr: What part of 320x240 H.264/MPEG-4 codec support do you not get? Its not going to run DivX. That means 768Kbps 320x240 @ 30 fps for H.264.
@ Armin: Thats why you have a dock, to play it through the TV and charge at the same time.
@ Pibby: Use Quicktime Pro 7, a lot easier.
@ Muldoonaz: Hey! Lets all bash something when we all really don't know anything about it. You go first, oh wait you did. RTFA first before you make stupid comments.
@ IMightBeWrong: Really? I hadn't heard that, in fact everything I have heard is that M$ and RIAA and MPAA are all in bed together trying to force you to do what they want. Not what you want.
@ 1337Geek: OMFG! MAGAZINES HAVE VIDEO WITH AUDIO NO!? ZOMG!
@ SmeRndmGy: Define "normal formats" to me and a lot of people H.264 is a normal format. What? You're unhappy that Apple decided to pour all its resources into making sure one high quality codec runs flawlessly on the hardware instead of running around trying to get licenses from other companies and try to support their sloppy or crappy codecs? Why should Apple bother to support WMV when WMV is crap? Why should Apple support RM when RM is just as much of a turd as RM.
Slow processors? Have you ever touched a G5? No? Shut up and stop spewing FUD. H.264 is not DRMed up the butt, why don't you go read about the subject before you spew crap you obviously don't know about. Keep your ignorance to yourself. - KYDS3K, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"video ipod is by far Apple's worst idea ever. It ranks up there with the iTunes phone for uselessness. Who needs to watch videos on a 2.5" screen anyway? I have 20.1" dual LCD flatpanels and a 51" HDTV I can use instead!"
yeah, let's see you lug your 51" HDTV onto the subway . . .
i used my PMP (Neuros 442, about to get returned for a Cowon A2) on recent airline flights to watch the entire collection of Robot Chicken, and 1/2 the first season of Aqua Teen Hunger force. plane trips, lunch breaks, waiting in line at the DMV . . .
i think that many/most people who don't see a use for personal video players won't ever see a use for them, and so i pretty much give up on them after the first attempt. of course, when we're on that 12-hr flight to london and their laptop runs out of juice . . . - xedeon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"this is such a joke. apple's so in bed with the riaa you can't tell who's jerkin who.
without a hack, this is a rip-off. suckers will have to buy content from itunes. look out for the conspirators baby."
^^A Prime example of stupidity.^^
Read this and shaddap!!
Apple Computers CEO Steve Jobs has attacked major record companies, claiming that the world's biggest labels have begun demanding that the iTunes music store prices are raised. Speculation regarding iTMS price hikes has been around ever since the store launched with a strict music pricing policy. Jobs believes that these record companies are simply getting greedy and a price hike could damage their competition with online piracy.
"We're trying to compete with piracy," he said. "We're trying to pull people away from piracy and say, 'You can buy these songs legally for a fair price'. If the price goes up people will go back to piracy, then everybody loses." Jobs also reminded the labels of the sweet deal they are receiving from the iTunes store.
"The labels make more money from selling tracks on iTunes than when they sell a CD. There are no marketing costs for them." he said. "If they want to raise the prices it just means they're getting a little greedy." For months now more and more businessmen from labels have been anonymously complaining about Apple's pricing policies.
Some believed that Apple shouldn't have the right to set the prices of the music tracks they provide to the service. iTunes has sold over half a billion songs and the sales increase daily, so it's no wonder the businessmen over at the worlds largest record companies want to increase prices. Even a few cents extra per track multiplied by millions makes a whole lot of difference.
soure: TheRegister http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/20/apple_jobs_piracy_pricing/
People if you don't know what the eff your talking about PLEASE JUST STFU................ PLEASE??? - dperrin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"apple just doesnt get it. why cant this thing play videos in normal formats? instead you have to waste time converting them. then they make computers with slow processors so it will take even longer to convert it. i bet their video format is DRMed up the butt too. if you want to make an annoying DRM format thats fine, but let the thing play normal formats too so we can ignore your crippled DRM format. yet another apple product i will not be wasting my money on."
^^
wow, talk about a guy who has no clue what he is talking about. - t3hX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just drag them into iTunes, it's easy!
- greatdevourer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1hppyfngy... oh dear. Not another one. You. Will. Not. Have. To. Buy. All. Your. Music. And. Videos. Again. Through. iTMS! Stop being so ***** retarded and jump off the "i'm a retarded apple basher" wagon
- bigboludo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Aside from all the complaints about Apple and the new iPod, kudos to ABC for actually offering their content in a legal format. Of course, I'll still download Lost in an HDTV xvid format, but now there is an alternative.
- mavranos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"video ipod is by far Apple's worst idea ever. It ranks up there with the iTunes phone for uselessness. Who needs to watch videos on a 2.5" screen anyway? I have 20.1" dual LCD flatpanels and a 51" HDTV I can use instead!"
Apple is setting up to sell Theatrical Movies through an iTunes like store. This is a portable device with video out capability. Watch movies, shows, videocasts, make presentations buy just hooking to a larger display. Its a step towards making the iPod the ultimate portable entertainment device. How useless is that? - Erkan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow, I am going to add this info to my website http://ipod-info.erkan.se
- speg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1But if we rip them ourselves, I see no reason why we can't reencode them into an iPod compatible format. A little bit of work...
- steevo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1to get video on it just add compatible video to your library and it syncs it like it would a music file. I tried this without having a video ipod of course
- xedeon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Quicktime is gay. Get a Zen Vision"
No thanks!! Do your homework... Quicktime is widely used in Hollywood studios both pre and post production and it's NOT inferior.. - sparkey182, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Okay a lot of people are missing the concept. Its not a IPOD VIDEO! What is it called again... whats the name of the product? An iPod.. thats it. Its the same price as the iPods that you could buy last week. It just happen to have a bigger screen, its thinner, more battery, comes with a case, and can play videos. But oh yea, im sure they wont sell any. Think about what you are saying... The ipod was really popular before, but now that they made it way better for the same price, im sure it wont do well.
- gunther_WI, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So my question is this, will i be able to watch RvB on my iPod? What about the most recent episode of Starvin' w/ Louis? I think that it is media outlets like that that will see the most benefit from the iPod's popularity. The weekly / bi-monthly Internet "shows." I can for see it being arranged much like a pod cast, sync it all up, get the latest episodes, all will be grand! Mark my words... THIS HAS POTENTIAL! THIS IS A GREAT IDEA!
- sims89, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1ATTENTION TO PEOPLE OF THE WORLD
The new version of QuickTime (7.0.3) lets you convert videos for the iPod! Woot! - Boingo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I can't get the latest version of QuickTime Pro 7, for WinXP, to encode for the life of me. I've tried converting QT6 and MPEG2 clips to the iPod format and MPEG 4 and the encoding process stalls and quits after 18 to 30%. When it does start to encode it is slooooooow. So, I cancel my 60gig iPod order til I find a working solution. Man this would have great on my next trip! Damn it..Damn it all to hell! hehe
- ghankstef, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I think you will be abe to use any app the uses the Quicktime engine to create your own video including iMovie
- Darthpip, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"The next great addition to the Griffin / Belkin lineups - iPod Video CAMERA??"
Pr0n made easy thanks to Apple. - mdon77, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0All this speculation, if you want to know what the new iPod is capable of WATCH THE WEBCAST OF THE ANNOUNCEMENT, apple.com
I thought this post was about "How to get your OWN videos on the iPod video"??
If thats the case does anyone have an alternative to quicktime, that is faster? - snozle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0kingAr_II - I sure hope not, I just ordered one (customized too) I do hope in the future (hopefully not so near because I just bought this one) they will have a 16x9 version that is geared more towards video. This as Steve put it "plays video as a bonus"
If i'm reading between the lines correctly here I think that there will be another VIDEO ipod. The only thing I believe is standing in their way is the MPAA. If we are going to have a true Video iPod with full 16x9 resolution, Apple will most likely wait to have enough good content to fill them with.
Steve also said this was the year of HD in a keynote earlier this year...Maybe next year
Just another speculation of my own, but I could see the new Frontrow with a TV tuner. Imagine watching TV on the mac, and recording it to the iPod video?? Wishful thinking... But, I don't think this will happen because of the push for TV over iP. With new networks like Verizon's FiOS TV we may be able to get tv directly to our computers via ethernet or some other means, then recording to a video ipod would be sweet in native 16x9 with HD. There I go dreaming again, lol.
In the meantime maybe Elgato will have a plugin for Frontrow to work with their EyeTV. But I want frontrow on my PowerMac G5 first.
Long live Apple! - pibby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@zwilliams
My recommendation of ffmpegX was based on the fact that he didn't want to use Quicktime Pro because it takes hours to export a video and you are stuck with the rotating colorwheel.
i.e.- "QT Pro stalls the export at about 10% every time. up to that point, it's breezing through the export on an 800MHz iMac" - gklitt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Why don't you just convert to Mpeg 4?
- Otto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Divx is not a standards compliant MPEG 4 format. Neither is Xvid. If they used standard methods and lived inside a standard MPEG 4 container, then the iPod would be able to play them.
- ImpactedColon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have tried to convert avi, mov, swf, and mpg (yep, bought the plugin from apple) into ipod format. Sure looks easy "Export to ipod video." Problem is it crashes every time and exits the program at around 14%. And HEY, guess what? When you upgrade to Pro, any other user accounts on your XP box can NO LONGER use quicktime! "Failed to load ActiveX control." Have trolled around the internet, and think it may be a permissions problem introduced by Apple. Either way, now QT is broken on other accounts, and I'm out $50 and can't export even quicktime movies to the iPod.
/angry - wilsonics, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Any windows users of Quicktime Pro 7.0.3 get it to work yet? I'm sure i'm placing my head squarely on the chopping block here...but, is there a better alternative OTHER than qt7pro?
I also have had problems getting Xvid to play in quicktime7pro (windows version), and also divx....i have all the proper codecs installed, and everything works just fine in my Zoom Player, my default media player...and yes, for you nay-sayers they work in WMP as well.
Maybe some configurations errors? I dunno....any WinXP users out there try this yet? - Darthpip, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Holy mother-of flippin'-pearl. 582 diggs. Wow. To some of the poeple suggesting the other programs - thank you. I'm just wondering how easy it will be using something other than Apple's QT7P. Should be intersting. I for one can't wait!
- bud8man, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I am sure their is a way to use VLC for this...similar to getting mpg files on to TiVo via the Galleon Tutorial.
If the Ipod supports the format their is always the Nokia small format video conversion .mga or .mg4 or something like that might also work. - korowetere, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The next great addition to the Griffin / Belkin lineups - iPod Video CAMERA??
- Simon_Mtl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Here is how I got some Xvid files into a proper iPod video file:
- Put the Xvid file (350meg) through Divx Doctor 2 (http://www.3ivx.com/divxdoctor/) which gives you a compatible QuickTime file (.mov) but since the resolution is larger than what the iPod can digest, you need to use your QT Pro privileges to export to iPod Video
- Put the new file (.mov) through QT Pro and export to iPod. The export function will ZIP through the first 10-20% v. quickly, then it will seem to stall. Just let it go... it will eventually spit out the file (I haven't timed it) as a .m4v (210 megs for a 42 minute episode of LOST - dunno what the size is for a purchased episode...)
- You could put it through iMovie and Share as a medium email size but it will not import over 9 minutes of video in a single clip...
- FFMPEG also works, but.. I didn't get a Quicktime-compatible file! Dunno what I did wrong... works well with VLC, but that doesn't matter, now, does it? Nope.
I'm sure SOMEONE will come out with some specialized software to do this automagically (if they did it for the PSP, imagine what they'll do for the iPod!) so this is just an annoyance at best for the next few weeks/months... :)
Hope this answers more questions than most stupid posts on here! ; ) - RipVanMania, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I use a video converter program called Lathe. It's far easier to understand than most of the freeware programs I've seen. They've just added support for iPod video in their new version 1.5. I've got QuickTime Pro but I never use it for converting video for the iPod because Lathe is easier and much, much faster. It's really a great little tool (but Mac users are out of luck -- PC only).
http://www.omniquiti.com/store.php - pibby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0http://diveintomark.org/howto/ipod-porn-conversion-guide/
- lava9611, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hey look, you guys can argue with me all day long, but I for one don't want to get locked into anything. I can download software for my PocketPC for virtually any video format I want. I don't need to spend hours upon end creating my videos. If I want h.264, theres a player for that. If I want your basic Divx, I can do that too. When I refer to normal, I am talking about anything I want to play (not what Apple decrees that I must play).
As far as the music goes, there is no flexibility on the iPod. Again, I like the fact that if I ever want to use XYZ music service, I can. Simply because the open architecture allows for software to be designed to run practically any format I want.
Face it, Apple's entire motivation for selling these products is to lock you into their stuff. It has been that way since the orignal Apple was introduced before most everyone who posts here was born. It is the age old arguement. - KingAR_II, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm I the only one that feels this is a "beta" version (for suckers to buy) and they have a different video ipod up their sleeves?
- snozle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm trying to convert a 16x9 video encoded with DiVX to the 320x240 ipod setting thru QT 7.0.3 Pro. I keep getting an error message that says "Failed " Do I have to convert it to h.264 then try? It works with a 4x3 movie that is mpeg-4 already.
It seems that I get the same error message when doing a 4x3 in divx also, can I simply not convert from divx? This is odd because I can usually convert from divx to h.264 withought the ipod setting. - xedeon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I'm sorry but why would you want to play 320x240 video on a 51" HD Display?? It's useless. I understand that fullscreen (4:3) video is 720x480 w/ a .9 PAR. But think about HD - (1280x720 progressive, 1920x1080 interlace, square pixels). Trying to see upscaled 320x240 on a display with native 1920x1080 - it would just look.... gross."
Where did you read or even see the letters "HD" in the iPod product page????????????? - dtrinh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0quick question - aren't the videos just .mp4's?
I mean, the specs at the apple presentation said that it played either h.264 or mp4. Thus, cant I just use 3GP Converter (or something as simple as PSPvideo9 - which will technically do the trick) ?
anywho - just wondering; or are there other specifics? - veritech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Can anyone else hear the money rolling into apples coffers.
- Aceofspades5, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0yea so suppose i dont have Quicktime Pro cause i dont wanna pay what do i do?
- Timsher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0first off... never mind...
secondly, This will make a "one ipod to rule them all," this just plain rocks... - macacid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1what a bunch of fkn morrons, but its still funny to see people talkings ***** on topics hey have no fkn clue about.
1st. Divx is a propriatary format, apple would have to pay Divx, Inc in order to support that format.
2nd. NO divx is not the standard format for videos, and most Illegal videos that all of you dl ( yeah i do too) are in Xvid, not divx, Xvid is similar but its open source.
3rd. Apple has no real reason put in the effort and support an inferior codec just so that we can all watch our illegal download movies.
if u want to watch those movies, then its up to you to make the fkn effort and learn how to re encode those movies into the standard next gen codec (h264). And yes ive done that, it took me like 25-30min to re encode a full movie, using a dual g5 at work.
and a resolution of 480x480 is more than enough for standard tv, it might be low for HD but i bet most people here dont even have HD anyway.
- hppyfngy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0okay, okay. I've been a mac user since forever, but I still think we're losing our rights here to use whatever we want on a player. h.264 is brilliant! I prefer it for all my dls. But you wait, the drm is gonna bite us all in the arse just when we're all happily ipodding.
I just hope they shoot themselves in the foot while they're at it.
Fork it. I'm gonna mount my modded xbox in the car and be happy. - xedeon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0 I meant H.264...
- xedeon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"okay, okay. I've been a mac user since forever, but I still think we're losing our rights here to use whatever we want on a player. h.264 is brilliant! I prefer it for all my dls. But you wait, the drm is gonna bite us all in the arse just when we're all happily ipodding. "
In case you didn't know most codecs out there have licensing fees.... and how exactly is the DRM gonna bite us in the arse?? please elaborate... Fairplay for all I know is the best DRM implementation out there just look at a comparison matrix compared to others... (google it)..
"Fork it. I'm gonna mount my modded xbox in the car and be happy."
Do that... - gamabunta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0im pretty sure pspvideo9 would work.
www.pspvideo9.com - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0.mp4 works.
it's probaly not the easiest way...but you can create your own vodcast with the videos, the itunes will import them for you.
now that i think of it...that's alot of work -- but at least it CAN be done. - brainache, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hey sureley right, after you squash the file down to 320x240 or whatever it is, when you plug it into a real TV, its gonna be all crappy quality?
- macacid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i really recommend ffmpegx, it has way more options and its faster encoding than regular QT, much faster.
oh and like everything in life, all things are not for everyone, just because its not for you does not make it crap. Comparing a pocket pc to an ipod is not realistic. you are comparing apples to oranges. if your are going to compare the ipod, at least compare it to something similar like creatives zen players or the new (not yet released) pocket dish. - xedeon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Even if a certain company releases the most innovative and superior product or lets even say perfect in every way shape or form I guarantee you idiots will bitch about a certain feature (which is mostly LAME anyways e.g. ogg, theora, flac, monkey audio, real media, wmv/a etc.. ) missing.. I HATE THAT.. you can't cram in every effin thing on the planet on a single device without paying for an arm and a leg.. a
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