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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8nuclearpenguins, camino IS opensource. it is a mozilla product developed to supply mac community with a powerfull (gecko), mac-like interface and opensource browser.
- haxored, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Here's the direct download link if you can't get to the site:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/camino/releases/Camino-1.0.dmg - Lord_oftheTrons, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5No digg, no windows version.
^-- j/k, but I see the opposite every time a windows only program is up. - fudgebrown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Camino has been around for a long while (used to be called Chimera). It's still very fast... possibly the fastest on Mac.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2As for Firefox Extensions see Camitools (http://www.nadamac.de/camitools/index.php) for some Camino Extensions.
- curupira, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"Make it open source and everyone can enjoy it."
Well, it IS open source. Please RTFA before bashing :) - Rocky21743, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2For those looking for plugins for Camino, check out CamiTools, it should take care of a lot things for you.
- tapo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2For those who don't know,
Camino is basically the Mozilla Gecko rendering engine in a Mac OS X cocoa shell (As opposed to XUL, which Firefox uses). Camino/Chimera has also been around for a little longer then Firefox/Firebird/Phoenix has, and it was the inspiration for Firefox.
It's open-source, no longer an official Mozilla.org product (Since Firefox was ported to Mac OS X) and has a few speed enhancements and other Mac OS X only tweaks that make it nice to use. Considering it's Gecko, it's not another browser to develop for, as it renders everything the exact same way that Firefox and SeaMonkey do. - Mcaruso, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Mozilla power, Mac style. Definitely!
- mjgardner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1jasongetsdown (and others): Sorry it wasn't obvious from tapo's response above, but the reason Firefox and Mozilla extensions don't work with Camino is that Camino lacks the XUL user interface engine that drives much of Firefox's UI. I believe this is on purpose -- you really don't get a native Aqua interface unless you use the Cocoa APIs. (See for example Trolltech's port of the Qt toolkit to Mac OS X -- close but it's fundamentally a "skin" that doesn't quite look right.)
Another thing that hasn't been mentioned here is Camino's support for other OS X native features like the system-wide Keychain for password and certificate storage, rather than the Mozilla project's own store. - kartoffel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's too bad Camino 1.0 doesn't support standard Mozilla extensions. I would die without adblock plus, greasemonkey, bugmenot, google anonymizer, etc....
Firefox has a big enough userbase that its has lots of good extensions being actively developed. I would hate to see Camino reinvent the wheel by re-doing from scratch a limited subset of Firefox extensions. Either leave Camino as an extensionless "toy" browser, or add full support for standard Mozilla extensions. - TravisL, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is a BIG day for camino. I am so excited. Best browser for the Mac, hands down.
- musicbear, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Kudos to Camino... it's been a long time coming! Great app... streamlined and fast!
- frem001, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i have to say that it displays colours a little differently to safari
- FunkyDigit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I gotta say, it's pretty peppy! Definatly better look than Firefox and no brushed metal look like Safari!
- Slungsolow, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3you seriously can't expect diggers to read articles.
that's why we have headlines and summaries. - joshpape, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1why doesnt firefox have pretty buttons like camino if it is the same people developing? I never understand why a company will produce for windows and mac and not make both look nice:-( Just because i use windows that doesnt mean I dont want nice design.
- cfazzini, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And it's a unibin!! Sweet! :D
- Gunnyman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Dimecross
It's OS X gui compliant.
It uses Gecko so if firfox renders it properly, camino will too.
There are next to no plugins for it though which is a downside for me. - eventualbuddha, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@Dimecross: my experience with it is that it renders identically to Firefox, with the only difference being that its widgets are more "aqua". User experience-wise, there are no extensions, but it is faster. It is more sparse. It has better preferences (IMO). I use Camino for browsing the web, and I use Firefox for debugging the web.
- neohx_7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Maybe my Mac is just too fast, but any of Safari, Camino, and Firefox load pages plenty fast for me. Extensions are what keeps me on firefox rather than Camino.
- mouth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Quite impressive. I used Camino a while back, but was unsatisfied with the use of only one-sized aqua widgets. This has apparently been fixed, and the interface is very pleasant. The only issue I have now is that OS X' ability to spell check in nearly every textbox system-wide is not present. I guess I will be forced to use the "check spelling" button below, and continue using Safari until this has been addressed.
All in all, I ma still very impressed. As Firefox on OS X is very unpleasant to look at (widget wise) Camino has definitely replaced it on my desktop. - wunderwood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Firefox is a Windows program just ported over. Camino is built for OS X so it runs better and looks better and uses built in Mac OS goodies like keychain, a standard tool bar, and addressbook integration. In short it renders web pages like Firefox, but it plays better with OS X.
- artman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Great. I've been using Camino from the beginning. Safari has some good Mac features but it is the sloooowist browser. period. Just downloaded 1.0 and will try it out tonight.
No Windows version? Well, I'd recommend Internet Explorer, Firefox, Opera, Netscape, OmniWeb, Amaya, HotJava, NeoPlanet and even (yech) AOL. Plenty of choices...sigh. - joltguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Nice!
The site seems to be getting hit pretty hard right now. You can also grab it here too:
http://macupdate.com/info.php/id/7548 - birch25, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"crappest
browser
ever"
on the mac, that award would go to firefox. it's such a freaking mess. - yeahright, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0...MONGS isn't even a word.
- mc1123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0cool!
Now only if I had a mac... - Xopl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Why the hell does Camino choke when I digg things? I end up on a blank page.
- DoTheFandango, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Fast browser, but no extensions. Also, I miss my Apple+K and Apple+L shortcuts for internet browsing. If you didn't know about these, these will make your life so much easier.
- monofonik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The only thing I want is some form of RSS auto discovery that could be hacked to add things automatically to add the feed to Google Reader, Feedlounge, or any software package.
Kind of like Firefox's FeedYourReader extension. - TimmyGUNZ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm also getting the blank page sometimes when I digg a story using Camino. Anyone know why that is?
- Fish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0+digg
I've been using Camino for a long while now, and I love it. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I discovered Shiira last week.
By far this is the most beautiful browser ever built on OSX. It uses the Apple WebKit to render pages. The sheer number of beautiful options in the preferences is staggering. It's pretty fast but has a few stability issues. Still, again, SHIIRA IS ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS!
http://hmdt-web.net/shiira/en - DeezKnots, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It seems I've been using camino a while already. Must have been the Beta version. Anyway, here is a tid-bit for the mac users...
If you need to make Safari, Firefox, or and other web browser the default for your Mac, you'll have to do it through Safari's preferences.
I use firefox on a G5 at work and firefox at home because yahoo email doesn't have the formatting abilites like it does with firefox. Maybe I'll start using my gmail. - nextsteposx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0No one seems to have written or noticed that it is a Universal Binary.
It runs native on Intel Macs - sanmarcos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0They could write a Cocoa XUL wrapper. But Cocoa has an API for masochists.
- TimmyGUNZ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I was told by the Camino people that integrated spell check will probably be in the next version, as well as the ability to re-order the tabs.
As for RSS, I do all my RSSing at Bloglines.com, so I don't mind not having that ability just yet. - Trjn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Good God. People, please just use Safari. How can you live without the built-in spell checking and the RSS reader?"
Well, personally, I managed to pass high school English. Now irony is going to kick in and I'm going to make a spelling or grammar mistake that people will persecute me for (this comment is being posted in Safari).
Also, whoever pointed out Shiira, I've been using that as my secondary browser for a while now, it is definately a great program, but I've found Safari to be slightly better. At least for my general use.
Downloading Camino now to see if it is any good, I was waiting for the 1.0 release to make a decision, not that it's here, I don't really have an excuse not to try. - zetsurin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Safari crashed during the download of Camino, so I will be giving Camino some serious consideration for my default browser!! The only thing I don't like about Camino is that it doesn't seem to render the fonts as well as Safari for some reason. They look kind of blury.
- jgood2709, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0yeah, i've been using camino for months as my default browser, i like.
- Kypt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0+digg, been switching between Camino and a Safter Safari with PithHelmet for a while. Always end up coming back :D Safari seems to choke (scroll) when trying to read too big a document (i.e. an html eBook with just one .html).
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is Great!!! I am throwing a Camino 1.0 party.... Oh wait... tat will be tomorrow...V day today.. Also Be sure and get CAMI-OPTIONS, a wondeful Camino Extension.!!!! Yeah!
- aristotle1990, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Good God. People, please just use Safari. How can you live without the built-in spell checking and the RSS reader?
- jamms, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0where is the rss support??
- revgriddler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I've liked it previously, but this version is, for whatever reason, way unstable for me. Too bad, cause I've loved Camino in the past, and only recently swung back to Safari for a couple months.
- panique, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@frem001 - you may wish to expend some of your energy attempting to get yourself a life. PS Don't bother commenting back, I've already blocked you. :-P
Camino is better than Firefox (on the Mac) in one department: font rendering. The text looks all funky when there is a mixture of regular and italics in the same line.
What I think is missing is a way to easily import or better yet - keep my bookmarks sync'd with Safari. Syncing with Safari would be most desirable then I could actually use it because then .mac would sync to all my other Macs. - NV0U, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have been running it all morning now. Well, I am not very impressed. Seems to be really slow to me. Rendering the Apple store page took a lot longer in Camino than Safari.
I also decided to go visit Homestar Runner (haven't been over there in ages!) and Camino pretty much puked right off. No, no crashing. Just that all I get is Homestar's eyeballs. Yeah, I realize it is not Camino doing that, but instead is something in Flash, but still. - grayson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0hawt.
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