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- JasonCox, on 07/04/2008, -15/+205Macs have been interesting since they switched to Intel and you could dual boot between two quality OS's.
- inactive, on 07/04/2008, -40/+192OS X and Linux?
- ahhell, on 07/04/2008, -32/+168Well that was pointless.
- inactive, on 07/04/2008, -20/+130I would like a Macbook Pro that doesn't cause 3rd degree burns. Until then, I'll have to do with one charred stump of a hand and a well-done wrist. I even have an iLap and it doesn't help!
- felch, on 07/04/2008, -4/+85This article doesn't include any new information. They don't even get the name of the Core Quad right...and dismiss with with a 'whatever'. This is just blogspam designed to get more ad clicks.
- kitsua, on 07/03/2008, -7/+76While I don't like the idea of changing something that works just for the sake of it, I am intrigued as to what Cupertino's going to roll out for the next generation of Macs.
A new MacBook would be nice right about now to kick things off. - kalkin, on 07/04/2008, -15/+71good article? it's an article based on speculation - there's nothing concrete. and the author is so far up his own apple-ass it's offensive (even to an apple fan like me).
"...I, and most Mac people, are not like that..."
WTF! - waydee, on 07/04/2008, -2/+50... Hardware acceleration to lower your gaming latency?
try changing ISPs. - Anzat, on 07/04/2008, -2/+48Try wearing pants.
- rossbrown, on 07/04/2008, -6/+51...posted in the Apple section.
The audacity! - inactive, on 07/04/2008, -0/+37The one thing I want is a built in Blu-Ray optical. I want to burn HD out of Final Cut without leaving the box. I would love to be able to take a XDCAM disc out of the Sony camera, put it in the Mac, copy the media to my drives and get busy. Then reverse that process at the end.
Isn't Apple a member of the Blu-Ray consortium? WTF is the holdup? - jicon, on 07/04/2008, -4/+41Couple counter arguments to the article -
1. Will Snow Leopard truly be 64 bit? I remember reading an Ars Technica article pinpointing much of Leopard is still 32 bit, even though the OS can address 64 bits of memory... Lots of bottlenecks.
2. Will it matter? Aside from heavy duty scientific or data crunching tasks (Which other variations of UNIX are better at handling), who needs 64 bit?
3. The computer line aside from the iMac has not changed drastically since the iPod was introduced. I think the biggest shocker of all was the Mac Mini - for both price point and design. Might be a bit difficult to have lightning strike twice on that one.
4. How does this guy know how many resources Apple has on the computer hardware design? Didn't we read there was a scramble to pour resources on the iPhone and later Leopard to finish those projects?
Additionally, if you want greater performance out of the Mac, drop HFS.
Not that I'm advocating moving to NTFS, but it would be wonderful if write access was available to Windows NTFS shares from a Mac. - Anzat, on 07/04/2008, -2/+34Points for misusing "there" to mean both "they're" and "their" in the same sentence.
- Jexie, on 07/04/2008, -1/+32Today and yesterday, simultaneously.
- inactive, on 07/04/2008, -1/+31you could do that on ppc macs too
- inactive, on 07/04/2008, -0/+25Computer and pants... sounds crazy. But I'll try anything once.
- spdorsey, on 07/04/2008, -5/+30I do not want new macs (necessarily).
The new processor design and latest hardware upgrades are ALWAYS welcome. I cannot wait until I'm using a 256-core Mac Pro with 3TB RAM. But that's not where I'm going with this. . .
I agree with kitsua in that I do not think that Apple needs to redesign the enclosures of its computers just for the sake of doing so. I feel that a main reason these machines have not changed in recent years is because they have reached a "perfection" in design. The entire product line (more or less) is durable, attractive, functional, and smart.
Why should they upgrade the designs just for the sake of new designs? They would be introducing all sorts of new hardware bugs that they don't need to.
Stick with what works.
(this is a repost) - Zippo, on 07/04/2008, -0/+22With the constant improvement of hardware and software, there's never a dull day in the tech industry...
That's why I love being a geek. - mtappenden, on 07/04/2008, -8/+29"The entire appeal of the Mac is the design"
Coming from some lunatic ***** who knows nothing about the Mac. - GJBlizzard, on 07/04/2008, -1/+22What they really need is a new MacBook Air that Kanye West won't break from typing so hard when he's angry.
- Urkel, on 07/04/2008, -3/+24You know what would make Macs interesting again? Apple actually refreshing their products in unison rather than delaying one portion of their product line (Macbook, Mac Pro, iMac, Mac Mini, iPod etc) in order to increase attention to another (iPhone, iPhone, iPhone)?
Apple die-hards may get be okay with relying on rumors and hype to keep them interested in Apple, but those that simply want to buy the latest Apple product do not like being treated like suckers who are supposed to sit patiently and guess what's coming next. - spdorsey, on 07/04/2008, -0/+17I agree. Blu-Ray support is overdue. There isn't even a Blu-Ray player built into DVD player!
We use a LaCie Blu-Ray burner at work. It's GREAT being able to put 50GB on a disc!!! It has greatly helped our project archiving.
But I have not ventured into Blu-Ray authoring yet. Should be nice. - Kosher1947, on 07/04/2008, -6/+23Oh, now you could dual boot between OSX and Linux back in the PPC days.
- Typhoon2009, on 07/04/2008, -11/+28games games games games games
lower prices lower prices lower prices
stronger hardware stronger hardware stronger hardware - jcblitz, on 07/04/2008, -0/+17Bummer about the iLap, I almost bought one too but because of my legs lighting on fire.
- persept, on 07/04/2008, -0/+16If the new product has new innovations then you wouldn't be changing it for the sake of it, you'd be changing it because of the innovation.
- SeizeNeuf, on 07/04/2008, -12/+28I agree with this article, it's been a while since we've seen new designs. Who knows what kind of features the next era of apple computers will have
- freqk, on 07/04/2008, -2/+17No. They're included with the Leopard install DVD. Just pop that in.
- nextse7en, on 07/04/2008, -1/+15When playing Crysis on my MBP, it gets warm, but not hot. I've got a peryn model.
It DOES get warmer than my thinkpad though. Aluminum, go figure. - nshady, on 07/04/2008, -3/+16My christmas present last year was a new Macbook Pro - once they revealed the redesigned machines. Still waiting.
- blorc, on 07/04/2008, -4/+17It sounds to me like you just didn't know much about Apple computers, so you ***** with people just so you could sell them.
- maexus, on 07/04/2008, -4/+17It's the OS. Which is weird that you talking only about Apple fanboys considering all the attempts to get OS X on non Apple hardware. OS X is a solid and quality OS and is one of the core assets that move Apple hardware.
- Nicoon, on 07/04/2008, -14/+26When did macs stop being interesting?
- inactive, on 07/04/2008, -2/+14when will a quantum desktop computer be released?
- HolyChimp, on 07/04/2008, -1/+13It's a sad reality of putting that much power into such a small space. My MacBook gets bloody hot too when I'm doing something intensive, or watching flash movies.
If you can find a Laptop sold these days that doesn't get hot then I'd like to hear about it. - clockdist, on 07/04/2008, -2/+13@Achalemoipas
While I wouldn't use the word "entire," a large part of purchasing decisions *are* based on design.
Fact is, Apple is intelligent enough to make a technically sound and advanced system while giving it a bleeding edge design. They excel at both and it works. - DaffyDuck, on 07/04/2008, -0/+11The problem isn't design, it's manufacturing. I have a 1st gen MBP and when I first got it, it was scalding hot. I did something most people would be too scared to do but I have had a cool running MBP for a couple of years because of it. I opened it up, took it apart, and reapplied the thermal paste on the processor. It turns out they use way too much of it. The manufacturer in China seems to think more is better. In reality the best heat transfer comes with a superthin layer. Too much of it causes it to act as a barrier. Doing this allowed the heat to be effectively pulled into the heat pumps and exit through the vents along the hinge. My MBP is no hotter than my mother's Dell which is now on my lap.
- wacomwacoff, on 07/04/2008, -13/+23Apple takes the same basic hardware, thinks about three years into the future features-wise, puts it into an attractive, thoughtfully-designed case, and makes it all work with the best OS on the market. The result is a better product. It's not hard to figure this stuff out.
- KMartSheriff, on 07/04/2008, -2/+12Yeah, if you're an idiot or don't know how to put a DVD into a computer.
- miguelandres, on 07/04/2008, -4/+13You realise that the first commercially available mouse came from apple and it was 1 button, way before someone thought of putting a wheel on a pointing device?
- inactive, on 07/04/2008, -3/+12drunk?
- Elranzer, on 07/04/2008, -0/+9Rather than a new MacBook, I'd love for them to put out a consumer-grade desktop model (not the iMac). It's been a long time since we've had a Mac, an actual Mac. We have the MacPro and the iMac, but they're specialized Macs (Pro-level or non-upgradeable).
Bring on the mid-tower Mac and maybe consumers (and even businesses) will start buying them in droves. - Magicmasta, on 07/04/2008, -2/+11Do you live in the antartic? 20C is impossible for CPU temperature if your room is room temperature!
- Halokhan, on 07/04/2008, -2/+11Dugg to show his stupidity.
- tidu, on 07/04/2008, -0/+9I use smcFanControl... it doesn't work wonders, but sometimes the fans don't trigger and you start to feel that you're at 70C with 2000rpm fans. Manually setting the fan can keep it at "a cool" 50C which is still mildly untolerable.
- palewook, on 07/04/2008, -2/+9as long as mac has proprietary hardware with inflated costs for its one vendor, it stands zero chance of ever becoming the mainstream pc.
what has apple dominated in market share during its 30 years? itunes and ipods. apple is a successful business model and a solid company, but they place profits before pc market saturation. - hotpuck6, on 07/04/2008, -7/+14"While I don't like the idea of changing something that works just for the sake of it"
I do.
That's how innovation happens. - Alexrrr, on 07/04/2008, -1/+7Penryn based MacBook Pros are not as hot... that's a start, right?
- Nexum, on 07/04/2008, -3/+9Thinking that you can make a Mac by making something *look* like a Mac is ridiculous. As so many people have said, design is not about the way it LOOKS, design is about the way it WORKS.
- solistus, on 07/04/2008, -2/+8Apple actually stopped using the term 'laptop' in its marketing a long time ago for precisely this reason; they're not supposed to go on your lap, officially. Apple portables tend to be very compact (about 1" thick compared to 1.3-1.5" minimum for many manufacturers' laptops), and the pros have been made of aluminum for a while now. Both of these design decisions have their advantages, as well as the common disadvantage of making the outside of the machine hotter with regular use. Apple's been known to do some crazy heat management in its desktops (the Power Mac G5 debuted Apple's use of special heatsinks with mini liquid cooling systems built in), but that sort of thing isn't so practical for a portable.
I have a pre-Penryn 15" MBP. After heavy use, the strip of metal behind the keyboard, as well as the same area on the bottom gets hot enough not to want to leave on bare skin. It seems a lot worse when booted to Windows; I think the power management features may not work as well as under OSX, so the hardware is running at full power when it doesn't need to, but I'm not positive about that.
One trick that works well for extended use is to use a cookie cooling rack as a stand. In addition to acting as a sort of external heat sink to pull heat away from the computer, it allows air circulation under the chassis, which helps a LOT. -
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