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- jLadd5, on 10/10/2007, -4/+50God I love hackers. It should be a known fact, that no matter how well a company tries to program a device hackers will always prevail. I you want to see what I mean look at the PSP. Hacker-proof my ass. Haha take that corporate America.
- SmackMyMac, on 10/10/2007, -0/+39Dugg for the picture.
"Many Bothans died to bring us this information." - acu8509, on 10/10/2007, -2/+35Or its called reverse engineering and its the only way to find out how something works when you have no other info on it.
- Fairly, on 10/10/2007, -6/+25Awesome. These guys are aces.
- signal15, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14Man, what's with all the unlocking haters on here? Locking phones to a provider and not providing unlock codes when requested should be illegal in the US like it is in Austrailia.
Unlocking the phone will only help Apple's sales on the device. I've had ATT service before, and it will never ever happen again. ATT is a horrible company with horrible customer service. - JoeBaynham, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14Apple make their big profit from when they sell the device the money Apple gets from AT&T Is just a bonus.
- Pritchard, on 10/10/2007, -5/+15How many doors must we open in the iPhone before it's considered unlocked? I think people are exaggerating a bit. I see far too many of these "we have hacked the iPhone we now own it lol" stories here on Digg. I'm not Digging till it's "unlocked", and these guys aren't "Aces" until then, either.
- Ghoztt, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Take that corporate America! FREEDOM TO DO WHAT WE WANT WITH OUR OWN PRIVATE PROPERTY WE HAVE LEGALLY PURCHASED!!! Go hackers!!!!1111eleven111!11
- rightmindx, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Give me a break, OS2Guy. It's not like they're defiling a piece of public property. Presumably, they paid $500/$600 for that iPhone, which means they now own it and can do whatever they damn well please with it. If I walked into a store and bought a Region 1 set top DVD player, there's nothing to stop me from opening it up and stripping out the regional lock-in if I so desired (and had the means to). If I buy a cheapo HP desktop from Best Buy with VIsta installed, I should be allowed to remove it when I get home and throw on Linux instead. The iPhone is just another consumer electronic device, stop being such an Apple fanboy and talking about it as if it were some sacred object.
- catalysis, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10I'm all for unlocking, but it's lame that people go on as though this is some kind of heroic war against evil corporations, when they are the very ones who made the iPhone that you purchased. If you REALLY want to do something about evil corporations, don't buy the iPhone.
- p51d007, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9The last phone I purchased a year ago was an UNLOCKED Sony Ericsson W810i. If/when I can afford it, any new
phone purchase will be an UNLOCKED phone, or I will buy an unlock service. I hope some day, that the USA finally
gets it together with regard to cell phones. Just look at the flood of cell phones out in the world market, with features
that some would love to have, but, since the USA cell phone providers "require" locked & crippled phones, we don't
get them. I got my W810i almost 6 months before it was "available" to the USA market. Sony was having problems
with the "cripple" features that were messing up the phone. That is another reason to avoid locked phones. You don't know what it will do to the phone. You can't use all the features, such as bluetooth file transfers on some because they want you to download/transfer files via the providers online service $$$.
Kuddos to the hackers, making our lives a little more free. - Taedirk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Good hack, kid! That's one in a million!
- jdaniel284, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9Wouldn't be easier just to make a device similar to the iPhone but run on open source software? People would buy it. Of course, I guess that little apple logo makes all the difference to the 'I think therefore iMac" crowd.
- tnoy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5The closest thing we have to that right now is the Neo1973. Its as open as you're going to get. You're not going to see the "consumer' version until October, though.
- omarciddo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6I love it. Even though it's relegated to just AT&T, since it's from Apple people just say "oh, well that's ok, we'll just hack it eventually". If it were made by Microsoft, people would be saying "***** YOU M$! ***** YOU ***** YOU ***** YOU!1!1!!1!1one!!!!"
- roxics, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Who cares anyway, unless you're an Apple stock holder, I'm not thinking about their profit as much as how useful the device is to me, the guy who paid for it.
- subxero37, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5He's right -- no matter what a company does, no matter the protection measures, hackers will get around it. Hackers are becoming the only way one may actually own a device or a piece of software (from a corporation, that is.) We live in an age when we no longer pay money to purchase things; we are simply being rented the items we buy. Same goes for software.
I give hackers a big thumbs up for this. Seriously, why wouldn't anyone? - FireStrife, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4wow took you that long to figure that out?
- virtualball, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5People hate unlocking because they hate the iPhone... It's actually ridiculous. You should be happy that this might be a blow to corporate America. It's like hating democracy because you hate Bush, it's stupid. (I like/own the iPhone though)
- sicc, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Who gives a *****? Does Apple give a ***** about you? So wtf do you give a ***** about their profits?
- xister, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Gee- what gave it away? The size or the lack of planet killing abilities?
- simpleid, on 10/10/2007, -4/+7You should trust me when I tell you that you can't exactly appreciate the kind of work and problem-solving it takes to do this. :-) they're aces even if they fail.
- klipseracer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Title is innaccurate. the baseband NOR has been retrieved. Nothing more. But this will lead to the real unlock. And no, its not a death star plan. Its the Chuck Norris & McGyver plan.
- sicc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3"It's obivous these guys don't give a damn about destroying an Apple product"
Let me fix that for you:
It's obivous Apple don't give a damn about their customers, long as they can make an extra dollar - jimlau, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Our only hope is that when the data's analyzed a weakness can be found.
- virtualball, on 10/10/2007, -4/+7Gutterpunk, you're an idiot. Your entire post was oxymoronic. You say that hackers aren't prevailing because it's been a month, but then you go on to say that your Sidekick has been locked down for years. I don't care what anyone says, this is amazing news, and when people say "ooo look, a terminal" and roll there eyes, they need to understand that it isn't something you just type into the computer to make easily. You can't just type, "Computer, make me an iPhone terminal." It's a long process and it's amazing how far these people have come in a month, let's see:
Fully working Toolchain
Access to the File System
Third Party Apps
Ringtones
SSH client
and more and soon to be an unlocked iPhone. - tnoy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Or you're a year into a two-year contract and want the iPhone to consolidate your phone and iPod into one device.
Or you don't get decent AT&T cell coverage in your house (like me)
Or you don't like AT&T for giving the government an open door to their network.
Or you're grandfathered into a better plan or are currently using a business plan that is payed for by your employer.
Or you tend to look into consumer devices like this in a different light than someone like Paris Hilton.
There are a few reason for people to care. - cyberoidx, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Too bad you dont have to ask to get dugg down. Being stupid works too.
- capecodcarl, on 10/10/2007, -4/+6On the flip side, when that Open Moko Neo is released it will be completely open and I guarantee it'll be a complete failure with zero press coverage outside of the tech geek community. The harder you try to make something to hack, the harder people seem to try to do it. They should've just let people load third-party apps on the damn thing, but limited you to Java apps like most of the other phones. They should've let us use it on any network, but since AT&T and T-Mobile are the only GSM networks in the USA they could've offered exclusive features through AT&T... functionality that was crippled if you used T-Mobile. For example, make the EDGE support only work with AT&T but you could still use the Wi-Fi or make voice calls on T-Mobile SIMs.
- gemmakicn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2To my understanding apple is harmed by the AT&T arrangement, they went forward with it because it benefits them to have a phone company on side initially, after that, its a case of they will want to get out of their AT&T arrangement as soon as humanly possible and trade with the other networks..
- sspooner, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I doubt it. There is not a phone on the planet that cannot be unlocked and used with another carrier (except all these crap CDMA jobbies). The iPhone is a hot commodity , apple probably expects and I image "hopes" it does get opened up. This way they get to sell more devices and don't have to support them. 3rd Party apps will be great for apple. They can sell the "base" device, make it stable and let the hackers do what they want. It's a win-win for Apple / consumers. Mine right now has mobileterminal installed and I'm already writing my own simple apps with the binary distribution of the toolchain, this is an excellent step. Give it one month and there will be a nice installer that anyone can use, give 6 months and there will be more apps than we know what to do with.
- eclectro, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The thing that will propel the Open Moko is the wi-fi. I disagree that it will be a complete failure. People want to be able customize and update their phone, which is not the case with most phones right now. Even with just the geeks, that still represents a large market.
Predicting it to be a complete failure is pretty myopic. - yotomote, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2well i think he was trying to reference starwars, but he did it poorly
it should have been something like "Thats no deathstar!, its a phone!" - cywei99, on 02/12/2008, -0/+1Yea! I hate AT&T. They have poor services. iPhone rocks!
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http://www.myselfhypnosis.net/ - rebotfc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Well actually in some parts of europe, yes.
- slapded, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1buried. still wont ever be able to work with sprint
- skooma, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3iphone Hackers? On steroids? It's more likely than you think.
- Mekun, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3And welcome to corporate America. I hate the the US government doesn't put an end to crippling and locking down something you pay for. Where is the free market??
- iburl, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1http://ironburl.tripod.com/animated/deathstar.gif
- MarkOfTheDead, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2stop bein salty that hackers don't give a ***** about lame-ass sidekicks.
tears dry. - omarciddo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Is that supposed to be the new "***** the RIAA"?
- redwoodtree, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2wow!!! YEah, unlock the iPhone so in the U.S. we can go from a crappy provider with a *****, overhyped network (ATT) to an OK provider with a pathetic data network... (T-mobile). Wow, I'm so excited. Wow, I can't control my enthusiasm.
+digg points to the people talking about open platforms and so forth... but since the providers will never allow it, who cares....
Hate the phone companies, not apple. - HappyScrappy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Same here, and same phone too, actually.
Note that several other providers cripple their phones too. Vodafone often require their phone makers to modify the firmware so you can't load on non-DRM ringtones. - HappyScrappy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Several companies already shipped visual voice mail before Apple did. I can just use Grandcentral.com (a company Google just bought) for example.
- FireStrife, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1no we read it your just a ***** joke maker. imbecile.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1isn't their a law that they have to unlock your phone if you request it??
- ShrimpCrackers, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Its a figure of speech. The fact that you haven't figured that out is... sad and probably why Digg is somewhat stagnating in quality.
- elementfire, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Umm, no?
- TimTheGreat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Sounds like a personal problem. iPhones can't use Sprint's CDMA/EVDO network. However, if it's unlocked, it could feasibly be used with T-Mobile or in Europe.
- Wasyu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Hell yah before the iphone really wasn't so great locked to a crappy carrier and no third party apps now if unlocked it actually would be worth the $399.
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