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- Chirp08, on 01/14/2008, -1/+52Nothing is more uncomfortable then checking out a friends iphone, starting to type something into google, only to have the drop down list of past searches give me 4-5 porn sites. I will never touch that phone again *shudders*
- serpicolugnut, on 01/14/2008, -7/+54I've had the iPhone since the day it came out, and I haven't missed Flash at all. Sure, there are Flash sites that the iPhone can't view. But I stay away from sites built entirely in Flash anyway. And the upside of not having Flash is that you don't have to look (or waste time downloading) those stupid Flash banner ads that are all over the web.
If Apple/Adobe add Flash to the iPhone, I sure hope they give us a way to disable it, because I would definitely opt to keep it off. - WikiEasy, on 01/14/2008, -2/+45After playing with the iPod touch, I will never go back to that lame stylus crap again.
I have one of the worst smart phones on the planet, the O2 Atom. That crap is completely unusable in daylight (can't see the screen), everything is so small and requires precise taps by that dorky stylus, and the UI is so terrible. At least with the Palm OS by Treo, it's optimized for use by the keypad. - JasonCox, on 01/14/2008, -3/+46I don't have an iPhone so I cant check myself, but what's set as the default search engine? I'd have to assume it's Google- and that'd explain the surge.
- RedS0x, on 01/14/2008, -0/+30It is. Google also has an interface just for the iPhone/iPod touch.
- Angostura, on 01/14/2008, -1/+26Well, I've got a Touch, not an iPhone, but I'll have a go. The main reasons are:
1. The double tap to zoom to element - see a block of text, double tap - it's width fills the screen
coupled with
2. Arbitrary zoom - use the two finger 'pinch' to zoom in and out on a region.
coupled with
3. The accelerometer portrait -> landcape thang.
coupled with
4. The way it handles drop-down menus and text boxes - select a pull down and you don't get a pulldown, you get a kind of overlay with the choices available on a flick-up flick-down rotor.
coupled with:
5. The very fast way you can flick about a page with your finger.
Overall it works, realy very well. I quite often use the Touch when downstairs, away from the computer if I want to look something up quick, or want to check the news headlines.
Hope that's not too fanboy-esque. FWIW I received it from my wife as an unexpected birthday present, but it is a lovely gizmo, particularly since it does not run Windows Mobile. - skinfitz, on 01/14/2008, -6/+30Just a shame it's not 3G really.
- spazzcat, on 01/14/2008, -8/+29Its the first to deliver on the promise
- jun2san, on 01/14/2008, -4/+24To be honest.....I haven't opened up my laptop at home for almost 2 weeks now because of my iphone. The only time I open it is when i absolutely have to see a flash site.
- PurpleSfinx, on 01/14/2008, -1/+21Ok I know it's on Adobe to support flash on devices, not just Apple, and I agree that it's still got a good browser for a mobile (Well, iPod touch does. I've never seen an iPhone, they're not out in Australia.), but whoever's fault it is, it still could really use Flash. And a clipboard, but that's coming. Still, I may get one after they come out here and reduce in price. I would expect them to upgrade it as often as the iPod anyway...
- serpicolugnut, on 01/14/2008, -0/+19You tap on the SMS icon, select a contact or enter a number and type. Duh.
- LeeSoong, on 01/14/2008, -0/+17Then in the Safari settings you'll need a Flash (On/Off) switch - save download times and battery life.
Flash Blocker (where You decide what flash content frames will run or not run)
is a MUST HAVE feature for the iPhone / Touch.
I need to see ShockWave / Flash content of some items,
but I do not need annoying Flash video Advertisements
yelling 'Lower your mortgage payments NOW !' in my headphones. - aftershave, on 01/14/2008, -2/+17Being able to google something on the spot like you would from a home computer is the greatest invention in the past 10 years, if not in all of human history. Now I can check the price and reviews of products right there in the store instead of writing down ISBN or product SKU numbers and then catching up on them later.
Mobile web sucks. Being able to browse the real internet is where it's at. iPhone does that.
Google's minimalist design begins to show its utility once you've used it with the iPhone at a 340x480 resolution. And I don't mean google.com/m site, but the actual google search page. - inactive, on 01/14/2008, -1/+16I'd have to assume you didn't read the article. Even if the iPhones search engine is Google, that doesn't explain why they would surpass other smart phone's traffic load on Google with only a 2% market share. The point is that even though more phones with internet capabilities are out there, more people actually use the internet on their iPhone.
- Murdats, on 01/14/2008, -3/+18they do, its called windows mobile.
it has only been around for over 10 years and is really quite popular. - Bootes, on 01/14/2008, -3/+17A flash heavy website is a poorly designed website.
- xsecretfiles, on 01/14/2008, -2/+16I've been an iphone user for a month now, and I gotta tell you. I don't longer get on my pc when I get home. I just browse the web on my iphone until I fall asleep.
It' s the greatest invention ever. I mean you can surf the web *through your wireless connection for faster browsing* while listening to your music collection with your earbuds, so you can't disturb anyone at the house, so if you feel tired, you can just put the phone aside and fall asleep.
You can do web surfing at a store as mentioned above quickly, it sure is 2g, but it's very fast IMO. again surfing the web on the go is very useful to me because I'm away from home ALL the time.
On the google thing, I can see why it has seen traffic increase, they have designed their page to be iphone compatible, the layout fits the screen and we get allt he widgets right there. I go there all the time, it's basically my homepage. - AntBing, on 01/14/2008, -2/+16Is that why my phone now hops to google.com/ig/i instead of the original google.com/ig?
- AceTracer, on 01/14/2008, -1/+14Google has a new version on Monday? Hmm, coinciding with Macworld? Interesting.
- spazzcat, on 01/14/2008, -5/+18I have no problems not having a Flash player on my iPhone if it means less battery life. I am sure once they work out that issue there will be a flash player...
- Awspire, on 01/14/2008, -2/+15Whoa, this should send shivers up Microsoft's spine. Personally, I feel the only reason msn.com is consistently ranked in the Alexa Top 10 is because Internet Explores default web page is set to msn.com. That translates into huge advertising revenues for Microsoft simply because of that default setting and the people who never change it. Microsoft better start getting out a popular mobile device to keep their msn ranked in the top 10.
- plaincorgi, on 01/14/2008, -0/+12It is either Google or Yahoo! You are prompted to pick which you would prefer the first time you open up safari.
- bgramer1, on 01/14/2008, -1/+12"Just a shame it's not 3G really." ..... yet.
- Angostura, on 01/14/2008, -0/+10If only it had some kind of WiFi capability....
- directrix13, on 01/14/2008, -1/+11Seriously? You prefer looking at that teeny-tiny screen to a normal screen? You enjoy zooming in and out all the time and panning around just so you can get the just of most pages? Why? I can understand accepting reduced functionality (Flash) as Flash usually adds little to the browsing experience. But the preference of a less useful screen I do not understand.
- Ireland, on 01/14/2008, -3/+12It's the day before Macworld.
- stinkstank, on 01/14/2008, -0/+9Micktion: I can't speak to the other devices you mention, but I used a Treo for a long time and have briefly used Win mobile devices. I think it all comes down to the interface and the touch gestures. You just have to use one for a while to see how it feels ... The fact that the the entire interface is designed for your fingers is very difficult to explain unless you sit with it and spend time on your favorite sites.
As an example, I GREATLY prefer browsing Digg on their iPhone site ... it makes scanning the articles a breeze, and the only thing I really miss is that at this point they have not enabled commenting, but again ... you just have to fell the difference. I have used other mobile devices since switching to the iPhone, and, without hyperbole, it is a vastly superior interface design and browsing experience.
That is probably not the technical explanation you are looking for, but I think that's the point ... it's not the tech that you think about when you are using it .... - etandrib, on 01/14/2008, -3/+12When the 3G version comes out people will complain that it isn't 4G and have a coffee maker.
- ploke, on 01/14/2008, -1/+10isn't google the default in all of them?
- Tyr7BE, on 01/14/2008, -5/+14To install flash on your iPhone, just copy and paste the following link:
...oh wait. - ekrub, on 01/14/2008, -1/+9Yes 3G would be nice, but I don't miss it as much as I thought I would (from Sprint Treo 700p to iPhone). Most of my time at work or home, I have up to 10x the speed of my Treo (via wifi). Sure, I'll upgrade to a 3G iPhone, as long as the battery life is the same/better and it doesn't add weight/thickness to the phone. I loved my Treo 700p (always preferred Palm), but I could never go back to it now. The UI and wifi are REALLY killer. Add an SDK and 3G and...wow.
- ekrub, on 01/14/2008, -0/+8Agree, though the option for displaying Flash would be nice. I'd vote for rendered placeholders (tap to play Flash).
- skinfitz, on 01/14/2008, -0/+8http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/index.html#sm ...
- AceTracer, on 01/14/2008, -6/+14It's 6 flippin' months old, the other players have been doing this for the better part of a decade. The fact that it has 2% already is pretty impressive. Wait a couple years.
- bbtweb, on 01/14/2008, -2/+9Having an iPhone, my only disappointment is its lack of flash support. Other than that, the phone has been incredible.
- misxn, on 01/14/2008, -0/+6Here's some more:
1) Entering data in put fields like, Name, Address, Dates. They are so easy because the iPhone uses it's own input screens for input that's suitable for mobile browsing (unless you're on a web 2.0 page like Digg). This means you don't have to put up with poorly designed web pages or pages that don't conform well to a mobile device's screen.
2) Adding and managing bookmarks. Also sharing a link via e-mail.
3) Web page rendering is near flawless, especially on financial institution websites.
4) Tabbed/Paged Browsing!!!
5) Google search bar. :-P - cleverboy, on 01/14/2008, -0/+6Most iPhone users don't miss Flash in the slightest. I'm more irritated when a website opts for Flash over Ajax and DHTML when they didn't need to. I think "Flash" is like Quicktime media. It needs to be isolated and treated as a huge resource hog separate from the normal browsing experience. If the iPhone NEVER got Flash, I can't bring myself to care. The ONLY thing that could do to remedy, is supporting Flash video clips. I'd like them to pop-up in a separate window though (like Quicktime). If Apple added Flash support, I'd bet most people would keep it turned OFF most of the time (if not all).
- sirmasterboy, on 01/14/2008, -0/+6Digg has a mobile page and it works excellent...
http://digg.com/iphone - cardyology, on 01/14/2008, -0/+6P800 and P910i web browsing was *painfully* slow.
- CressCrowbits, on 01/14/2008, -0/+6I wouldn't have thought that the majority of people think flash = online games. I think most people deal with flash day to day in flash heavy websites.
- etandrib, on 01/14/2008, -0/+6It will be called iPhone. And a 95% chance it isn't being released tomorrow. It could be announced/demoed tomorrow but I don't think we'll see it until may/june.
- Firehed, on 01/14/2008, -1/+7There's a lot to be said to be able to comparison shop from the store. I was using it to get book reviews from Amazon while in a Borders.
- suppah, on 01/14/2008, -0/+6you are right, i live in Italy...
- DPimp1262, on 01/14/2008, -0/+5There are multiple reasons why it is the best mobile browser but I think the number one reason for me is just the smoothness of it. Whenever you use any other browser on a mobile device, for example the lg voyager, the machine can't seem to scroll through the web pages smoothly. You jerk from each section like if you were looking at a set of pictures. VS the iphone is liquid smooth all the way. You can use it to slowly scroll through text, or to browse digg stories. For that reason on top of all the other reasons like how well it dynamically adjusts the text size/smoothing of the text is why I love browsing the web on my iphone.
- Myztry, on 01/14/2008, -2/+7Except for the good stuff like streaming video where you've got to get off the slow American networks and head into 3G territory.
- gbjxc, on 01/14/2008, -0/+5Better interface (size, layout-wise) for mobile than the regular one, I assume.
- jonshipman, on 01/14/2008, -1/+6I'm pretty sure it has bluetooth...
And Digg needs a mobile page. Rendering with PIE is *****. - judgeFire, on 01/14/2008, -0/+5The Nokia browser, which is based on Apple's WebKit, renders things as well as Safari, including CSS and Javascript. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Browser_for_S60
It's a great browser, second only to the.. iPhone. Nokia's problems are in the UI, which is a pain to use, especially when compared to the direct interaction of Apple's touch tech. (Not to mention Nokia build quality...) - pyrates, on 01/14/2008, -0/+5Lets see whats wrong with this:
1. All iPhone users come with an unlimited data plan by default.
2. How many more other smart phones come with an unlimited data plan for $20 a month? Virtually none that I can see.
I guess the report leaves out this little tid bit of information because then it could skew the results and Apple doesn't like it when the results that they claim are shown to be skewed. - LeeSoong, on 01/14/2008, -0/+5' rendered placeholders (tap to play Flash). ' - Excellent Idea !!!
save battery life, and download time - and see only the Flash files you want to see...
And Add-Blocker for the iPhone is also a top needed feature... -
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