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- plucas, on 10/12/2007, -3/+74It looks kinda cool, but I think Spotlight is all that I need (especially with the Spotlight improvements in Leopard).
- adcat, on 10/12/2007, -6/+48But Mac mail makes that nice little whooshy sound when you send a message!
- Legato, on 10/12/2007, -2/+35i agree, spotlight is part of the operating system's foundation... why would a third party program work better or faster, especially if spotlight is on all the time anyway.
- ewcost, on 10/12/2007, -1/+27Nice, but I like Spotlight.
- clickmyface, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24Uh.. what? you don't use pop Gmal in Mail.app? Because I do, and you can search your mailboxes (ala Gmail) offline.... you don't even need to use spotlight...but you can... mails built in search is fine...
- tdowling, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23Try not to be too bitter, boybunny - you're sure to get dug down when you make a statement like "Apple has a very unstable OS when it comes to reliability," which those of us who are experienced with the OS know is not true. Your experience with losing mail data (was there no backup on the server?) is not typical.
And you don't need .Mac to back stuff up...there are *plenty* of other cheap or free options out there. - halvertos, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24why would i give Google access to view my entire system?
- brennankeller, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16@boybunny
or here is a better solution...
1.) go log into you your gmail account
2.) go to settings
3.) then to forwarding and POP
4.) then to "When messages are accessed with POP" and select archive GMail's copy
your problem is solved in 4 easy steps... - zdiddy85, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12How about a native Google Talk app? I know Adium incorporates the jabber client, but I would like the "Talk" portion of Gtalk to work just as fluently as the PC application.
- bsander, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Those bastards, trying to steal my unique application number!
- clickmyface, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13you're excited about a seperate application to update other applications? Er...
- h00ligan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11if you are losing data that frequently either you have bad hardware or you are doing something wrong. period. Of course the os isn't perfect, but it doesn't lose data like that unless you are rocking over a 4 gb pst in entourage. Which is MICROSOFT'S fault.
- Legato, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10quick silver really isn't a search app... and if spotlight is slow, you may wanna see if something is wrong. even on my old g4 imac its super snappy
- Universal, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Link to download: https://www.google.com/dl/mac/install/GoogleDesktop.dmg from http://www.google.com/mac.html
- superrcat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"Your copy of Google Desktop includes a unique application number. When you install Google Desktop, this number and a message indicating whether the installation succeeded are sent back to Google. Also, when Google Desktop automatically checks to see if a new version is available, the current version number and the unique application number are sent to Google. The unique application number is required for Google Desktop to work and cannot be disabled."
http://desktop.google.com/mac/privacypolicy.html - Radan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7How much faster than instant do you want it to be? Most of the time, spotlight has found the file before you're able to finnish writing the word. What Spotlight lacks is not speed, it's advanced search algorithm.
- tdowling, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7boybunny: sounds like a bad hard drive or a problem between the chair and the keyboard. Or maybe you or your wife just has a really magnetic personality. Whatever it is, the OS is not to fault when problems are that rampant. This goes for any major system out there. OS X is not Jesus, but it ain't Satan either.
- Greyarea, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6So do I, but I wish there was a way to turn off the "start searching after you've typed 3 chars" bit. Bogs down a bit on an older machine.
- superrcat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+82 years too late.
- ilgaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I hope it is taken out by google listening to mac users who doesn't want a freaking unique identifier and net connection which will break the entire OS security,
Google doesn't have "digg effect" or "slashdot effect". It is Google. - clickmyface, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Great question.
- moisie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I wouldn't use the quality of anything related to windows as something with which to judge Mac software. It may be rubbish but give it a chance.
- pmhn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I noticed the same.
Can someone dig deeper to check what's it actually doing? Just another UI layer on top of Spotlight doesn't make sense. Helps nothing. Google can't be that foolish... - AtWorkSurfer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Google, if you're reading this, please, please release Picasa for OS X. I would be happy to pay for it, even.
- clickmyface, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Yeah, boolean logic will be a nice addition to spotlight in Leopard. Should improve the algorithm nicely.
- ilgaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Google could ship a quicktime component for their "open" talk feature, notify Adium developers or logon to CVS (or SVN,whatever) and add that feature to Adium themselves.
Of course they would prefer a application with unique identifier to "check for updates" :) - salmonmoose, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6because you've misplaced your tin foil hat? Seriously, who are you to think Google actually cares what you email your grandma?
- HunterTV, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8"Our PC using friends..."
You mean "enemey combatants." - rtini, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I guess it's cool for people to play with before Leopard comes out.
It seems like a bad idea to install something like this in beta form though... - erictheninja, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2FYI: The software resets your default browser and IM clients to Safari and iChat.
- kmccormi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3yeah, or at least make the google talk app work in gmail when using Safari. Google had a page that's an homage to the mac dock but it was taken down (mirror here: http://www.theplaceforitall.com/googlex/) so obviously they like macs. So why aren't their apps more mac-friendly?
- lipa, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4i used it on my windows machine and it was bad,......
there are better apps spotlight quicksilver etc. that actually work and learn - AceTracer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4That article did little to explain to me why I should use Google Desktop over Spotlight. If it was faster I'd switch without hesitation, but even that's comparable. And the UI doesn't seem nearly as refined.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Does this include the sidebar?
That might be worth using if its nice and smooth, unlike the flickery mess of the windows version. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3also, whan't the last time you rebuilt your mailbox(es)?
and how much RAM do you have? - ThankTheCheese, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3(Spotlight + Quicksilver) > Google Desktop
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3yea, i'll use spotlight & quicksilver.
thanks, though. - ilgaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ask Apple why they didn't "network enable" spotlight and why Leopard Spotlight on client will only be LAN/Local Network enabled. They didn't take the risk at all. Very clever.
That is why we pay $140 and hardware price for this platform, not because Apple claims they are not evil and no, we aren't installing a third party application even if Pope sits and codes in Objective C to have a function which is already on our KERNEL. - purpanther, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3>>>... sorry to tell you that my wife and I have lost ALL our data on our macs FIVE TIMES now in the past three years. We have most of the evidence still here if you want to come and have a look at it. I call ***** that OSX never wipes out and never takes your data with it.
True sign of user error .. I've seen a couple of flaky Macintosh machines (logic boards mostly) and the occasional bad hard drive. Never multiple cases of lost data even with the most novice user. Somebody please help this guy use his computer - whether it's Mac or Win. - tdowling, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Yeah, I think that the "not too snappy" issue with Spotlight is supposed to be fixed in Leopard. Hopefully there'll be a noticeable difference on PowerPC machines.
- kadrock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Between Spotlight and Quicksilver I have no need for this app.
- cvstageman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@tracydanger
If you open the system preferences, go to the spotlight option, and select the privacy tab, you can add the disk to that, and spotlight should ignore it as it scans for updates. - tdowling, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Not trying to be an apologist...just trying to be realistic about where problems stem from. You're obviously frustrated, boybunny, and that's understandable. Some people have bad experiences with a computer system, and they turn away from it never to come back again...that's how it goes. You're just one of the unlucky ones, unfortunately.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+8Google has a faster and more powerful search engine. Most everything you know about searching with Google.com and GMail works on the desktop:
- Search for a phrase: "Foo Bar"
- Match one but not the other: Foo -Bar
- Wildcards: "One * Three"
- Filetypes: "Ace" filetype:pdf
- Search Mail: From:bob
etc.
But as fast and powerful as Google's search engine is, I just haven't found it very useful on Windows. The index goes out of date too easily and the UI just isn't great. Spotlight, on the other hand, has great UI features (Search Folders, Searching a subfolder hierarchy, etc) which makes it at least somewhat useful, if sometimes slow and lacking the ability for advanced queries.
I'm going to try it out for a bit. I never found it useful in Windows but I use my Mac differently, so who knows. Maybe it will be a nice complement to Spotlight.
I've noticed that it correctly follows moved and deleted files, which the Windows version never could (at least for me). - flipmeat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you were to do something nutty, like read the Google Mac Blog, http://googlemac.blogspot.com/ , one of the Desktop Mac engineers explains how it is not a straight port of Desktop Windows. I'll save you the click:
"...we know that simply "porting" to the Mac is not a good idea. So we took the time to develop a product that deeply integrates into Mac OS X and maintains its high standards of usability. This is a Mac product through and through, from the bezel on our search box down to correctly (and securely) handling multiple users and FileVault." - tracydanger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I have actually noticed that my spotlight is slower now that I have an external USB 250 GB drive, but it seems to simply be the lag time for that drive to wake up. So now it's 2-3 seconds instead of instant. I don't know if there's a way to keep spotlight from even searching that drive to avoid that and I've never cared to take the time to find out.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Google knows where the action's at.
- demonotaku, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Agreed. I just use Quicksilver and that seems to do just about the same thing. Plus I'm going to assume that the QS file is MUCH smaller than the Google one. Also, when you download QS, you don't get a *****-ton of other things that they want you to download thrown in your face.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1My desktop is all totally pimped out!
- bobv, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Thank you google for making another program I should have never installed.
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