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- boozedrinker, on 03/31/2009, -3/+52FALL!?!?! You *****' kidding me?!?!
- eatrains, on 03/31/2009, -6/+30Meh, no reason to switch to Chrome from Safari.
- jasmus, on 03/31/2009, -2/+22I'm sure some people will, but you raise a good point. At the moment, although still in Beta, Safari 4 has pretty much pre-empted chrome on OSX. Unless Chrome gains some new features before it comes out, I can't see a reason not to use Safari 4, even in Beta.
- WorldLeader, on 03/31/2009, -3/+22I used to use Firefox on my Mac, but now I switched back to Safari 4. It is just so much faster, and there are extensions to block ads so I don't miss FF at all.
- dittonara, on 03/31/2009, -2/+16I misread Fall as Fail.
- jasmus, on 03/31/2009, -1/+12Actually, safari 4 Beta is just like using chrome. I use it as my main browser on windows, and safariblock works on it, so no ads.
- haydenk, on 03/31/2009, -1/+12You know that Chrome is based on webkit framework, right?
http://webkit.org - kyle5000, on 03/31/2009, -1/+10Where's the Linux version?
- connormcmenamin, on 03/31/2009, -0/+9...webkit. damn, you're just straight up wrong, *****.
- badqat, on 03/30/2009, -5/+14I'm sort of considering leaving Firefox behind on the PC for Chrome. But on my Macs, it's still Firefox for me, at least until Chrome arrives.
- fandyllic, on 03/31/2009, -2/+11Well, judging by the pace of Mac development, I'm guessing the Linux version will also arrive by the fall... of 2090.
- selkirkj, on 03/31/2009, -1/+9great news for mac users. i made the switch a few weeks ago and haven't looked back. chrome is excellent.
- Scotopik, on 03/31/2009, -3/+11God I hate it when people use season names to describe dates. We don't all live in America, seasons occur at different times all over the world. What's wrong with just using months to describe time!?
- inactive, on 03/30/2009, -4/+12Noscript and ABP alone are enough to keep me with Firefox.
- JonLatane, on 03/31/2009, -0/+8I love me some Safari 4, but Safari will never fully beat Chrome in terms of stability unless Apple implements some kind of multi-process browsing technology. If you're curious about what I mean, check out Stainless (http://www.stainlessapp.com/), a multi-process browser that basically just uses Safari's native WebKit engine but splits each tab into its own process. It's like Safari but even more rock solid (although it lacks fully fleshed-out features, as the site notes).
Honestly, though, I'd rather Apple just implemented this in an RC or the final release of Safari 4. Coverflow history is pretty much the best damn thing to happen to the browser, and I doubt Chrome will be able to imitate that kind of feature anytime soon. - mrBitch, on 03/31/2009, -0/+7@ shinkou RE: "I thought Mac users don't appreciate open source or free software..."
Mac users don't appreciate open source?
I have a MacBook and MOST of the software installed on it is all open source software.
You obviously don't know a lot of Mac users, most of the people I know that bought a Mac are all Unix and Linux developers.
OS X is like buying a PC that runs a version of Linux that you never have to use the CLI (if you don't want to)
Note : I KNOW that OSX is (mostly) based on BSD Unix, and not Linux, I'm just trying to explain a point.
Not only that, OSX is a Unix OS that has commercial software available for it that runs NATIVE on OSX (unlike the Linux world, where you have to run WINE or a Windows emulator to get most of your commercial apps to run under Linux). - youRrich, on 03/31/2009, -2/+9It just doesn't seem worth it all to do all that to just switch browsers, especially when Firefox is fine.
- ism70605, on 03/31/2009, -0/+7No, Autumn occurs at the same time everywhere in the northern hemisphere as long as you are not in the tropics. It occurs from the autumn equinox to the winter solstice. And I thought the American school system was bad. You have made a new category of stupid.
- mmockett, on 03/31/2009, -0/+6Stainless is a good alternative in the meantime
http://www.stainlessapp.com
It supports multi-process tabs and is under a megabyte in size. It's also really fast and clean. No addons though... - MAGZine, on 03/31/2009, -0/+6You can have both of those on Chrome. It has addon support, you just have to do some searching for the plugins and some techy-stuff to enable them.
- Billions, on 03/31/2009, -1/+6I thought all you Windows people used IE, why would you ever need a non-Microsoft browser?
C'mon Wyodiver, get over yourself. Who types those sort of "I thought..." comments anymore? - Billions, on 03/31/2009, -0/+5Safari's always been lean and fast, it's like we've been eating a treat every day for years.
- cashmonkey, on 03/31/2009, -2/+7International title please.
- mrBitch, on 03/31/2009, -0/+4@ RobotBuddha RE: "And webkit's based on khtml. Doesn't mean that safari is konqueror or that chrome is safari."
Yes, all good points, but I have completely switched over to Chrome (from FF), on my Windows PC, and have been using Safari Beta 4 on my MacBook.
Chrome running under Windows feels a LOT like Safari running under OSX.
I have to say that the fact that they're both using the WebKit engine does tend to make them both "feel" very similar to each other.
However, I also have to say that Google beat Apple at their own game when it comes to the Chrome UI.
Chrome's UI is what Apple's Safari SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALL ALONG.
When it comes to minimalism and UI, it looks like Google out-"apple'd" Apple, and beat Apple's UI designers at their own game. - RobotBuddha, on 03/31/2009, -0/+4At the moment. We've still got a pretty long way till chrome 2.0. I think the extension system is going to be the big measure of whether there's a point to using it on osx.
- radmarshallb, on 03/31/2009, -0/+4I doubt your experience is typical. I run Safari 4 on 2 intel machines (New MacBook and previous gen Mac Pro), often having 20-30 tabs open on each with no issue. In fact, I've found it to be quite a bit snappier than anything else I've used.
- vishwajith, on 03/31/2009, -0/+4Chrome-mac status page maintained by Chrome team.
http://dev.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/mac-det ... - fandyllic, on 03/31/2009, -0/+3Please explain why. Hype without details is worse than worthless. Have you tried Safari?
- MacParrot, on 03/31/2009, -0/+3Also shinkou since we're talking about web browsers, they ARE free. Apple doesn't charge for Safari on either the Mac or Windows. If Safari was only available on the Mac or if Apple charged for it that would be different.
- lolwutpear, on 03/31/2009, -1/+4Fall, as in Autumn, as in the season _opposite_ Spring. Google is based in the northern hemisphere.
- RobotBuddha, on 03/31/2009, -0/+3True. But on the other hand, I really like that they're geting it right the second time around. Both the osx and linxu versions feel like natvie programs, rather than byproducts of a cross platform toolkit. They made a lot of bad choices with the initial design, and a lot of good choices for 2.0.
- Billions, on 03/31/2009, -1/+4What a dumb comment.
- PainToad, on 03/31/2009, -1/+4Fall makes it a Fail imo.
- inactive, on 03/31/2009, -1/+3well they are both webkit browsers, but obviously Safari has been around a lot longer
- inactive, on 03/31/2009, -0/+2Use smoke signals for all I care.
- jotux, on 03/31/2009, -0/+2The only feature missing from chrome that keeps me from switching to it 100% is a ubiquity-like utility. I love chrome, but I'm so spoiled with ubiquity in firefox that I can't switch completely.
- ilgaz, on 03/31/2009, -1/+3The lead developer is a very nice guy, I would love to see it ship and get successful but it is real hard on OS X, the home of Safari and Webkit. I can see why they picked him for such a hard job, if it works, it will be because of native look and feel.
If it comes with that notorious "Google Update" in case they admit people have a point and don't give up by fall, it will be real sad waste of development time.
Another risk? Making people wait until fall and ship it Intel only while every browser around are universal. It would make people nuts. - ilgaz, on 03/31/2009, -2/+4Do you actually reply to that troll? lol
- krackle, on 03/31/2009, -1/+3Just to clarify @haydenk Webkit is Safari (or at least the rendering engine). That's why Chrome is so fast.
- Jamieee, on 04/04/2009, -0/+2Autumn.
- Macintoshreader, on 03/31/2009, -1/+3Mac OS X version is more important for them. Linux version will come later. OS X has a user install base of about 9x more than Linux so it would make sense that they develop this first.
- MacParrot, on 03/31/2009, -0/+2@Billions
That's kinda all he ever does. You see his father didn't love him enough as a child...or maybe it was loved him TOO much. - fandyllic, on 03/31/2009, -2/+4Umm no. Haydenk was right. Safari is based on webkit rendering, but is not the same. The rendering engine maybe more than half the functionality, but saying Safari is Webkit is like saying Safari is Konqueror.
- fandyllic, on 03/31/2009, -3/+5Who cares. As far as Chrome is concerned, late = never. I have yet to hear any convincing argument why Chrome is so great and the mere fact that is comes so late to the Mac pretty much indicates a flawed design philosophy. If the code were nicely portable it wouldn't take so damn long.
Google has as many stupid fanbois as Apple, people just haven't figured that out yet, - shinkou, on 03/31/2009, -1/+3Then you're a big fanboy. coz you even capitalized the F's. hohoho...
- nunofgs, on 03/31/2009, -0/+2Because humans like to innovate. You're welcome to stay with your current technologies for the rest of your life though!
- mrBitch, on 04/03/2009, -0/+1@ shinkou, RE your link about the OSX CLI :
http://www.mcelhearn.com/?p=32
"If the GUI offers a better, easier-to-use solution, that’s my choice. But there are advantages to using the command line. Read on to find out more... "
Umm, I don't understand your point? I am a developer, and I LOVE using the CLI... but (like I said in my earlier post), unlike Linux -- under OS X, you NEVER have to use the CLI if you don't want to.
BTW : In my job, I use Linux, SCO Unix, and OS X terminal sessions all day. - RobotBuddha, on 03/31/2009, -0/+1If that's all you need, the latest nightlies should be usable. While not great for everyday browsing, it should render pages pretty much in line with chrome on windows.
- agarc, on 03/31/2009, -0/+1I use Chrome on Windows, Safari 4 on the mac.
Chrome has a nice, clean and simple interface. And it's fast. It's tab management is superb. I still use Firefox for debugging with Firebug. But for everyday browsing, Firefox is feeling a bit bloated. Chrome is so fast! In my experience, speed > ad blocking. I've learned to filter out ads on the page with my own eyes.
And like Android, I think Chrome has a lot of potential, especially after seeing http://www.chromeexperiements.com.
As far as the mac goes, I can't wait for Chrome. I was a long time Firefox user on the mac and have always hated the Safari UI. However, the latest Safari has been great to me. I think the tabs need work still, but otherwise, it's extremely fast (and for me, it's been very reliable). - RobotBuddha, on 03/31/2009, -1/+2And webkit's based on khtml. Doesn't mean that safari is konqueror or that chrome is safari. Some browsers, like arora, are just frontends to the rendering system and js engine of webkit. Chrome isn't. It's pretty much moot unless the speed difference we're talking about is only dom manipulation or plain rendering of html. Not to mention that google's backporting a pretty large amount of code back into webkit.
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