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- StigNordas, on 07/22/2008, -4/+60I still can't believe AT&T doesn't offer this as a feature. You know Apple was probably pushing for it.
- gtluke, on 07/22/2008, -15/+70awesome, now the iphone can do what my ***** LG phone was doing in 2001
apple, so ahead of the curve. whats next, picture messages? - hausome, on 07/22/2008, -3/+54"Warning - Tethering your iPhone is against the iPhone data plan terms. AT&T could slap you with huge fees if you overuse this. I recommend only using it during emergencies."
-http://cre.ations.net/blog/post/how-to-tether-your ... - schlagzeuger, on 07/22/2008, -6/+42Rule #1: we don't talk about fight club
- americaskate, on 07/22/2008, -0/+16Excellent guide. Can't imagine how many times this would have come
in handy through the past year. Edge just isn't fast to make the trouble
of tethering worth it. - xsecretfiles, on 07/22/2008, -2/+16It's not a matter of just at&t not allowing this, but Apple for locking down the bluetooh full capabilities on the iphone for whatever easons.
Anyone on a smart phone with Bluetooth capabilities can already do this btw. - jonshipman, on 07/22/2008, -1/+14bandwidth.
If everyone was using 3G at the same time, well, it wouldn't be broadband anymore. - slambert90, on 07/22/2008, -0/+11Money! AT&T wants to sell its Mobile Broadband and Laptop Connect Cards/Service.
- pauleric, on 07/22/2008, -0/+11I think their data plan has 5GB per month, which I suspect most people don't come anywhere near. Hook it up to your real computer and suddenly it becomes much more useful and convenient. If that happens, expect their rate plans to change radically.
- admdrew, on 07/22/2008, -0/+10mmmm, I believe the ssh tunnel is only between the host connected to the phone and iPhone itself, so outbound page requests generated by the phone aren't necessarily encrypted.
- BoneStamp, on 07/22/2008, -1/+11I dunno, I was in some jams where even EDGE speed would have been welcomed.
- zimsters, on 07/22/2008, -3/+10umm don't forget that this is still not a standard supported feature, whereas the LG phone in 2001 it came built in!
they're still behind the game - ralphthemagi, on 07/22/2008, -7/+14You can go through 5GB easy with a single download. Or if you download the $0.99 iTunes rental every week... that's over 5GB. Leave Bittorrent running overnight? That's 5GB.
5GB at 3G speeds is about 7 hours worth of intensive use.
I used to use Sprints 3G EVDO service until they put in a new 5GB cap. I used around 40-50GB a month, and I don't even torrent. You'd be surprised how quick you can go through it. - dark_helmet, on 07/22/2008, -0/+7@nexmachina
I think you need to take some anger management classes. You may not see a point in it, but think of some businessman, on a trip. He brings his laptop with him to do some work, sitting somewhere with no wifi access, he notices his phone, which has internet access. Now, wouldn't that be great if he could use his laptop, with its full sized keyboard and more capable software, with the internet access that his phone has. Yes he could have a EVDO or UMTS modem in the laptop, but that would require a second data plan to that of the phone, and to carry around a second device (even inside the laptop, it adds weight.) If you can do it all from one device, why not? - protogenxl, on 07/22/2008, -1/+8All Windows Mobile 5 and 6 devices have this built in. It seems to be more of a driver/network-subsystem issue on apples part. They can either use Microsoft's ICS framework or write their own and they probably chose the latter so it will take some time.
- krische, on 07/22/2008, -1/+7How in the hell is MMS busted?
- insinuate, on 07/22/2008, -1/+7Because E-mail is such new age technology.
- konsole1981, on 07/22/2008, -3/+9OooOO... tethering is such a novel idea? I am happy to hear about the overcoming of your frustrations with vendor lock-in on outrageous monthly plan rates, at least you get front page on Digg when your phone does *insert_standard_pda_feature_here*. Congrats!
- megamod, on 07/22/2008, -0/+5AKA no running torrents on this connection?
- cawpin, on 07/22/2008, -6/+11"Anyone on a smart phone with Bluetooth capabilities can already do this btw. "
Not without paying for it.
Yes, I know you can hack around it. I'm talking legitimately. - ramsinks.com, on 07/22/2008, -5/+10This is using SSH. So no, they cannot tell where/what data is coming/going.
- logandurand, on 07/22/2008, -0/+5Or one of the many other phones that can do this. This is by no means an iPhone exclusive feature, this article just focuses on one example.
- JoeMcGurty, on 07/22/2008, -0/+4Simple reason why AT&T and Apple together decided not to provide this as a standard feature for iPhones:
Money.
Consumers now buy both an iPhone and a 3G network card for their laptop AND data plans for both devices. - BossKey, on 07/22/2008, -0/+4It is not a technical problem. I've tethered older phones to my Mac laptops. The technology has never been wanting, the problem is that the telcos have gradually withdrawn support for it. With one of my old phones, I stopped being able to tether simply because the phone maker chose to stop writing updates for the USB interface software to keep up with system software upgrades. I could still connect the hardware, but support was intentionally withdrawn. Now you see companies like AT&T expressly stating in their Terms of Service that tethering the iPhone is a violation.
These are policy issues, not technical issues. They would rather sell me a cellular data card and a second plan. - usingpond, on 07/23/2008, -0/+4Who is saying this is new? Nobody, so can you people please shut the ***** up. It's a tutorial for the iPhone.
- killerknives, on 07/22/2008, -3/+7why doesn't att just offer this as a feature? what does it take away from them?
- mal1964, on 07/22/2008, -0/+4But this is OK?, " jailbroken iPhone 2.0"
- dcmjzero, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3while they have it built in, most networks charge. i think at&t charges $50/month to tether.
- billbugger, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3System administrator needing ssh access to their server to reboot from a crash would be a good example.
- 17999, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3I didn't bother to read it too carefully, but it looks that way. Since it's against TOS, I only skimmed the article. But, you're setting up a browser proxy, which means other things would have to be set up to use proxies using this approach and I don't know if the IPhone has outbound connections on smtp, ftp, telnet & rdc ports, for example.
Plus, you'd stand out like a whore in church on their monitoring systems if you did start doing other things on the network from an "Iphone." - inactive, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3Works on my Nokia phones in the UK
- protogenxl, on 07/22/2008, -1/+4@WoWhead90
Because He's not your Buddy, Guy - hausome, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3nah, i think he probably just was referring to the abnormal increase of use with their unlimited internet service? haha that didn't make sense...but maybe some sense...no no...no sense
- NolanFinn, on 07/22/2008, -1/+4That being the case, any good links for using the ATT Tilt as a high speed data connection?
- admdrew, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3@cawpin
There are other options aside from hacking - I have been using PDANet for my Motorola Q (using EVDO from Verizon). It is a retail smartphone application that allows tethering over Bluetooth or USB, and works on Windows Mobile devices with ICS disabled. - admdrew, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3Though ICS (internet connection sharing) is part of WM5 and 6, carriers have the ability to disable it. I know Verizon does this.
- bezdomnoi, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3Is this feature new to the US or just the iPhone? I remember doing this with an old nokia like 3 years ago. Of course that was in Eastern Europe
- digitaldivinci, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3Student/Employee needing to access a file on his laptop and email it to meet a dead line would be another decent example.
- ronaldmonster, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2I've been doing this for over a year with my old Sanyo Katana >_>
- admdrew, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2@17999
> Plus, you'd stand out like a whore in church on their monitoring systems if you did start doing other things on the network from an "Iphone."
Not necessarily... really, you could simulate this traffic using an application built for the iPhone (like another browser, if possible), which I don't think would violate the TOS. - admdrew, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2It may be more likely that more bandwidth is consistently used if *everyone* tethered their iPhones to their laptop/desktop, but it's still possible that this bandwidth is used by usage through the phone itself.
Really, they should be able to offer reliable 3G service to all of those paying for it (and I suspect they are able to do so, to some degree anyway), so this is probably more of a billing issue as slambert90 mentions below. - jebus123, on 07/22/2008, -1/+3But they could do some deep packet inspection and notice it's not the iphone browser... But then again you can change the browser string in Firefox...
- super_spyder, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2I would love it if someone was smart enough to create a simple script that would run on your computer. So that all you had to do was double click it, then join your phone to your wifi netowrk that the script created, then put the ipaddress of the phone into the script. This is kind of a pain to do every time
- jaxter2010, on 06/17/2009, -1/+3I understand that, but I really like a lot of the iPhones features, however the fact that it lacks THIS feature has kept me from purchasing one.
- LilBoyLuver, on 07/22/2008, -1/+3Dugg for Beck on the iPod.
- MellerTime, on 07/22/2008, -1/+3@admdrew Yeah, you're just paying out the ass for drips of bandwidth from Verizon. One of the high points here is that you get AT&T's unlimited 3G for what are basically rock-bottom prices. If they were to actually offer this ability, you can bet it would be an add-on and it would be equally priced: outrageous.
True mobile broadband just isn't competitive quite yet. Give it a few more years to develop better coverage and for prices to fall. - GMEnthusiast, on 07/22/2008, -1/+3Buried inaccurate. This just sets up a SOCKS proxy for web browsing. This does not "get your computer online", it only gets your web browser online. The iPhone still sucks compared to any Palm or Windows Mobile smartphone, which can be used as *real* wireless modems.
- admdrew, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2As the lifehacker solution is basically just running a proxy server on the phone, and the phone is what is "directly" connected to the internet, page requests will be generated from the phone itself. Essentially the 'inside' host (the laptop or whatever connecting to the iPhone) will be sending requests to the proxy server (running on the iPhone), which attempts connections to the remote webservers independently of the actual source.
I haven't tried this myself (no iPhone), but this is a fairly standard proxy solution. I *believe* this solution works for web traffic only. -
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