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- 2ndDairy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+62It's not about practicality, it's about the challenge.
- eddyc, on 10/12/2007, -13/+48I'm really tired of ireland being the representative of my country. Ireland is not a land populated by stupidified PR victims. Please 'ireland' does not speak for us. That is all.
- virtualball, on 10/12/2007, -5/+35Ireland, some don't have 300 more dollars. Also, this is cool as *****! You have a fully working mac in something that is 1/8 the size of a working PC! :)
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19This guy ran WoW on his AppleTV (controlling wirelessly with an ibook)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKQdxqu4iSY - Timan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19Fun hacking the thing + $300 difference is good enough for me.
- gstuartj, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14plaisted, I'll be happy to believe your assertion, once you prove to me that it is valid and that it is not just fanboy-logic that you pulled out of your butt. Please post your professional credentials pertaining to the information security field, and all evidence which led you to your conclusion. I am interested in hearing more. Thank you.
- MakinBacon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12It's things like this that make me smile and wonder why some people complain that there are no third-party apps for the iPhone. Just wait until someone hacks it on day one and the apps will follow!
- haylcron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I wonder how it runs under load. With OS X pushing the CPU harder and longer than it was designed for, I wonder how it will handle the heat.
- tracydanger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12The only problem is that it'd be so slow compared to a real mac that your impression of an apple computer would not be very good.
- mikeazorin, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Apple TV + OS X + Cheap 500GB External + BitTorrent = !!!
- Gogogo111, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11What.The.*****.
Welcome to my blocklist.
(Not you Timan) - rcran, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Imagine what a great little machine this would be for video chats or P2P.
Not to metion how many technically minded switchers could come of this... - tracydanger, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13I've been thinking this whole time what most people have, "How cool to use this as a regular mac," but it just hit me. To make it a useful/practical mac, and semi-legal, your gonna spend $300 on the machine, pay for the OS, buy a keyboard and mouse, spend money on a larger harddrive, upgrade ram if possible, and whatever else I can't think of. After all that and the time/effort you put into it, you've spent enough to get a mini. Don't get me wrong, if your doing it for the joy of hacking, more power to you, but if your doing it as a way to get a really cheap mac, I'd think twice. (of course you could always stick with the 40GB harddrive and use an old keyboard and mouse, etc)
Joy of hacking... that'd make for a good website name. - colincornaby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I think by the letter of the law, it is legal. It is Apple branded hardware. Although I'm sure this isn't something Apple intended. :)
- Ocelot13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9then why mod anything at all? why mod an xbox to run xbmc if its purpose was to play games? why mod cars to perform better if it was made to just drive? people mod things to get more out of them...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8It's gotta run better than my 6 year old Flat Panel Mac!
- Loie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@wazzledoozle2
build me a media box with hdmi out, component out, a remote, in a similar form factor (nobody wants an ugly mid tower next to the hdtv), that runs on 48 watts. (the electricity bill matters to me now, F.U. ComEd) for $300. - SlvrEagle23, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9@Virtualball: Well, fully working to some extent. The extra expense for a Mac Mini is for extra stuff, though, so if this process becomes easier than physically opening up the box, it will essentially create another, cheaper type of desktop.
It would make an excellent thin client... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6The keyboard...Apple keyboards have two USB ports on the back of them.
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/8c/70/ee881363ada0f158bde4e010.L.jpg - ziki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Omg his monitor is bigger than my bed!
- ziki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6The world in 7.7x7.7x1.1 Inches
- dusingaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5but your "300" Frankenstein will not have HDMI and Component out.
- fernyb, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7very cool. now I wonder if its possible to have MythTV on the AppleTV. Now that would be cool.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5pwned
- dolbinau, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Through the keyboard? or a USB Hub.
- Firehed, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5How many $300 computers are about the size of a couple DVD cases stacked up? How many are designed to (not can, are designed to) hook up directly to your TV? The AppleTV is designed as a streaming and syncing device, but being able to run iTunes right ON the thing makes a lot more sense. Your legally purchased TV show season pass shows will automatically download to the thing without the syncing time involved, and it increases portability tremendously. Plus, of course, you can combine it with bittorrent (preferably a client like xtorrent that supports rss feeds and can automatically add content to your iTunes library when it finishes downloading) to do the same for your not-so-legally-purchased shows. Not to mention tremendous power savings.
We were all wondering why people would want to pay a ton more for a router with a hard drive that supports bit-torrent when you can do it with your existing computer, but it's kind of nice to save a ton of space and cut power usage by 90%. This can be one of those routers plus a WHOLE lot more. - grayapple, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Outside - are you MAD?
- jklyon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5APRIL FOOLS (probably but I hope not) Can't get it to work. >.
- Lounger540, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It has a hardware video decoder just like the iPod. Though I'd like to know if it works with this hack and using other Quicktime components.
- grayapple, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Now, get Windows to boot on that thing.
- nullx42, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4http://www.appletvhacks.net/images/mac_os_x_on_apple_tv2.jpg they linked the 2nd image wrong. theres the correct full sized one
- bleaknik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Just a thought, but playing back h.264 video isn't exactly light work for a 1Ghz processor. My thoughts:
My 1.25 Ghz G4 iMac, playing Handbrake'd DVDs consumes ~60-70% CPU time, across 12 threads, and ~60 megs of RAM. [45 minute video, 350 MB, 1000kbps, 128kbps AAC Audio]. A 1ghz processor [albeit, Intel based] running the same types of video will probably perform similarly.
Typical OS usage of a processor is not more intensive than the usage requirements to playback video. Just a thought. It's my guess is that normal operational temp would be less... - skellener, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3A Mac-mini will NOT work through component connectors at all on an HDTV - An AppleTV will. But the whole thing is moot since it's 4/1 today.
- rulesaremyenemy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Wrong place to ask that question. Try http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=98
- DaMacGamer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3needs more ram (256MB aint gona cut it) but other than that its an excellent idea for someone who wants a dirt cheap mac.
- stoppedcode12, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1840427990015549546
- mastercheif, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I can't wait till the Apple TVs start folding!!!
- Pliep, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Can someone please confirm that this actually works and is not an april fool?
- mjh2901, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6This just sells me whatever the next version of the mac mini is. An extra $200 gives you a bunch of ports, a supported full OS, and of course the DVD player/burner and more ram. What is exciting is this shows that Apple TV, is way more than a media extender, its much much more powerful than anything else on the market as far as media extenders are concerned. iTV will be given more abilities and features by apple in the future. They are barely using that things power.
- ThankTheCheese, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3impressive. i didnt realise it was a 1ghz processor inside. I wouldn't have thought a device could handle 720p with such a slow processor.
- WiseWeasel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@MakinBacon: Keep in mind the iPhone doesn't have a hard drive that can be removed and accessed on a computer... makes these types of hacks a bit trickier... Custom plugins might be cool though, if there's a way to get 'em installed...
- AceTracer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Still seems more practical to get a used Mac mini. No HDMI but you can use the DVI and a USB audio solution for less than $50. It wouldn't cost much more than $300 total, easily under $500 and you have so much more you can do with it.
Still, kudos to the hackers. - heresy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Apple TV = $299
Mac Mini = $599
$300 difference. Not $200. - mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It isn't, although that would be pretty funny.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=appletv
The top 4 videos demonstrates this in multiple ways, including with PC.. 2 of them are from march 26, and 2 of them are from March 28.
Though I suppose it's possible that it is all an elaborate hoax, I doubt it. - tomblag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That's why they included a gchip, probably to make the early adopters front the cost a 1year upgrade cycle. I'm pretty sure that gfx + intel chip has plenty of power to decode mp4s and 1080p. The question is does that chip output at 1080p? Thats the more interesting question. It should be easy to check what the top output res is on that chip, since they can run osx now.
If the gchip can output at 1080p now, I see no reason to get an appletv now, because for sure they will be dropping the price. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I would think that an external USB CD/DVD drive would work just fine...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Imagine a beowulf cluster of appleTVs!
- jklyon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Noooooooooo!!! I can't back up the dam drive. Can someone explain?
- moocow1452, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Give it some thought, and you could probably use the harddrive swap on a Linux system. Anyone thinking, Ubuntu, Linux for tv's?
- goofygarber, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3My thought is this - Mac Mini's are great, but they start at $600 new (yes, you could buy one used, but thats a poor comparison) versus this $300. When it comes down to a kids first computer or something to just hook up to your TV, that $300 could be better spent on a number of other things (like, say, adding that $300 to your TV budget and getting a better TV)
Also, the Mac Mini has a piss-poor graphics card (integrated GMA950), whereas the AppleTV has a real 7300 graphics board.
It all comes down to the person but I can totally see a market for AppleTV as a computer buyers. -
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