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- Termina, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17@MiddleGirth
No, we just ridicule, torture and imprision them indefinitly without a trial. - carolzhang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7in China.they don't have any laws to protect the journalists, in fact,they have some lows to protect Foxconn.that is why Foxconn sues the journalists.
- colincornaby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I find this interesting considering that even Apple found that worker conditions were poor in the factory and said the Foxconn had to change them. If anything, Foxconn is suing the reporters for telling on it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Failed space launches that demolish apartment buildings? I must have missed something.
- Comatose51, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Being of the oriental / Chinese race (Chinese isn't a race! It's a nationality/heritage.) and actually born in China... What the ***** does that even mean? That lawsuits are in our DNA? That suppressing freedom is passed from mother to child?
- Vigacmoe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5lakawak, does this count?
http://www.spectacle.org/595/kent.html - Derfus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Pressuring journalists?
and they say this is in China not in America? - NSResponder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You weren't paying attention. Apple didn't find poor conditions, they found some cases of people taking more overtime than they're allowed to.
Foxconn is suing the reporters for libel, which they have every right to do.
-jcr - Comatose51, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Isn't it ironic when a formerly communist nation becomes fascist when the government gets in bed with businesses?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8see? china and america aren't so different after all!
- ShrimpCrackers, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Um about the rockets...
In the early 90's China launched a space rocket that actually landed in a town of over 10,000. It wiped out the entire town. Many were killed. A lot of buildings were demolished. It was hushed up until an Israeli engineer secretly filmed the whole charade and released it to the public. - ShrimpCrackers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@Colincornaby,
Actually, ALL American companies that deal with China are required by LAW to have worker rights policies. In fact I can't find a single company that DOESNT have worker rights policies. Even the outsourced factories themselves have their own internal workers rights policies. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+11Only we don't drive tanks over civilians who are practicing something the government disagrees with.
- colincornaby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3What about the other computer companies that use the same factory for producing their goods? I don't hear you asking why they never said anything. Dell and HP also both use Foxconn (the factory didn't just produce iPods), the difference is, Apple seems to be the only one with worker rights policies.
- hongkongjapie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Of course in the USA, all overtime is registered correctly and if a negative and most importantly blatantly wrong article is published which damages an american company, they never even think if suing, no that's not american (and _when_ they sue they're not targeting the weekest target but going directly agains the stronghold). O and of course the chinese ignore all human rights (ok they do that a lot ;-) and the USA doesn't. For the last point, let's for once even ignore Iraq:
http://web.amnesty.org/pages/deathpenalty-children-stats-eng
Must I go on?
Yes, there _are_ poor working conditions in China, and _yes_ they found some irregularities in the working conditions (that's why it's good to have periodic audits if work is outsourced to countries known for poor work editions) but let's be honnest, if you would audit a random it-shop, or better game-developer, in the 'first world', I'll bet that at least 8 of 10 have 'irregularities' of people making more hours (and often even uncompensated).
This is tiresome,
OaO
Jaap - mcic1984, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's shocking they are suing the journalists when clearly they should be suing the newspaper... In any case, perhaps this is something for consideration in a future clause for consideration in a supplier's code of conduct? -- After all, these journalists do not receive the protection they might get in the west.
- lucas22, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1at the end of the day everything will mean nothing and we will all rot in the dirt.
- emorphien, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@MiddleGirth
Obviously my point was made. It was VERY well covered up and most people still don't know about it, which you are evidence of. - baron1984, on 07/31/2008, -0/+1http://digg.com/linux_unix/Foxconn_tries_counterat ...
They're a pretty shady outfit. - repran, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@MiddleGirth
...in your own country. - soopabanana, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The idea is that what's described in the iPod city article isn't out of the norm for the work hours in Asia... This story is blown way out of proportion, and Foxconn just wants to know why would the reporters who obviously know about the working norm write a story to damage the reputation of one of the largest company in Taiwan / China.
- t3hX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://www.apple.com/hotnews/ipodreport/
That's what Apple found. - nocountries, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's the journalists whose working conditions we need to look at - this kind of victimisation should spark a strike. Where are the unions.......?
- JohnboiWaltune, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This is ***** absurd, I'm an American, when I have to work overtime, nobody gives a ***** if I don't like it... I can be fired for no reason at all... just because some VP wants to cut costs so he can look good, he can fire one guy and make another guy do both jobs. It happens all the time... fear of losing your job to make you work harder is the American way.
- volcompimp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What's next? Foxconn blackmailing Alex Albrecht into taking this story down since they gave him that free laptop?
- guitarsgonewild, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://www.marilyncarolyn.com/2006/07/cryptic-pleas-for-help-found-inside.html
- pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1new source reports on your unethical/illegal behavior, attack news source instead of cleaning up your act. the chinese are fast learners.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0And yeah..sure. Apple knmew about NONE of this for the months or years that they have contracted them to make iPods.
RIGHT! - emorphien, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2@MiddleGirth
or cover up failed space launches that demolish apartment buildings - TomS64, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Mr. Jobs, let these people go!!!
- onlyheart, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0is Apple behind this?
- collywolly, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Apple used to sue people itself.
It must save them money by outsourcing this sort of thing to China...... - Vigacmoe, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2lakawak, does this count?
http://www.spectacle.org/595/kent.html - pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3we just send them to gitmo.
- ferrell, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Well, not AMERICAN citizens, anyway.
At least not yet. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -12/+5So you are comparing the detainment of suspected terrorists in the middle east, with China systematically murdering members of a non-violent movement called falun gong?
Non-violent = suicide bombers? Nice try on your line of reasoning, you can try again later. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3Termite...I am fascinated by simple people like you. How could you possibly think that you could come out looking anything but a ***** idito for that? Name ONE civilian we that has been detained like you said. Provide ONE shred of evidence.
And no, websites like democraticunderground, or rense.com does not count as proof. - neocitron, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1Being of the oriental / Chinese race..... these actions don't surprise me...
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