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- Miraa, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24Is there apple-flavored Kool-Aid?
- CarbonEclectic, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16Sarcasm? I'd say you're dead on. They wrote a total of 2 sentences about him in a full page article.
- swimtwobirds, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12read the wired article a while back on the development of the ipod, it says a lot about jobs and apple.
I cant think of anyone like him and i certainly wouldnt want to get him on a bad day,
but there's no design by commitee at apple and it shows.
He's effectively the Willy Wonka of silicon valley... - saikhan, on 10/12/2007, -9/+19If there was it would taste just the same but it would be more expensive, have a prettier looking can, and include a butter to pour it down your throat.
- ricksite, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12rholloway, I was just talking to a coworker about this. It can be expensive to get the latest stuff but on the other hand, I got rid of my floppy drive a long time ago. A new Mac comes with all sorts of cool stuff (iSight, WiFi, bluetooth, etc...). A new PC is just a faster version of last years PC. Generally speaking.
- CarbonEclectic, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13Yeah, just a glorified salesman who happened to have engineered the turnaround Apple has taken over the last 10+ years.
- threemagic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7If it's an Apple front pager there's a great chance it's brought to you by: CLIFFosakaJAPAN
he/she is a front page machine. - DforSpiD, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Forbes puts 4 random words together to vaguely describe Steve Jobs [Sarcasm]
- MacParrot, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9@rholloway
I can't speak of what your friend's experience is like or how he has decided to waste his money, but not everyone that uses Macs are made of money. I bought a used 933MHz G4 tower in 2002 and that was my main machine for almost 5 years. It has burned CDs and DVDs, created movies, did some audio work (podcasts and the like), kept up with my internet habits, email, photo manipulation, light gaming (WW2 shooters, Quake, ect), all without changing the processor, video card, and so on. I added some Ram, bought bigger hard drives, and put in a combo FireWire 800/USB 2 card, but that's been the only addition to its base configuration. I retired it after buying a 24" iMac, but i still boot it up to keep in current with software patches and the like. I bought it for $1600 off eBay and it was the best computer I've ever owned (Jury is still out on the iMac).
The next year (2003) I bought a new 933MHz iBook. Got a great deal on it as the new model had come out and got almost a 20% discount of the list price. I still use it for most of my surfing habits, even at home with a wireless 802.11b Linksys router, since the freedom to not be tied to a desk for just surfing the web or checking email is the best thing that ever happened to computing IMO. It also was upgraded with more Ram and a bigger hard drive.
So I spent around $2500 over 4 years ago and have spent very little since. Not a bad investment for computing I think. To be fair, I also bought my kids a G5 17-inch iMac (my wife uses it as well), mostly just to keep them off my machines. It also was bought as an open box special and I got almost 20% off it's list as well. That's the computer they will use until the software they need won't run on PPC Macs.
The point is, not every Mac user is drinking the kool-aid. Just because new or shinier machines come out from Apple doesn't mean we're all salivating at the mouth to spend up to our credit limit on new machines. I've used Macs since 1987 (A Plus for almost six years, a Performa 575 for four, A Umax C600 Mac clone for three, a beige G3 desktop for four, and finally the QuickSilver Tower for four. Also a Pismo G3 powerbook and the G4 iBook) and have always kept them until they were unable to do the tasks that I bought them for. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5digg favortism algorithm at work
- Greyarea, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10I would add that he's a salesman who cares about what he's selling.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11Steve Jobs is a salesman... nothing more, nothing less.
- keyboardduder, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11He advertises to a gullable demographic, nuff said
- Sanchez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4And he will die in his green velvet slippers
- rholloway, on 10/12/2007, -14/+18nailed it. His genius is his concept of "planned obsolescence"--he's managed to con the same small market share to keep coming back to purchase the next beta release at full price every two years, which has translated to $5.7 billion of personal wealth. Wow.
I'm not sure that the business world has ever seen anyone do it that well. - bradleyland, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@ rholloway
It's not all that amazing. Since Apple makes products *worth* upgrading to, I'll keep sending them my hard earned dough. I've yet to regret an Apple hardware purchase. - Vermifax, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Shut off your PC and go jogging or something...
- Uberdork, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I'm not an Apple owner, but I'd say it's inaccurate to call Steve Jobs a mere salesman. He's played a strong role in the design of Apple products.
- d3dm, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Jobs popularity and cult status would be quite the opposite if there wasn't a Microsoft. It's because of a hugely successful status quo platform and OS (Windows) that Jobs is able to offer something different and allow the rebel alternative computing lifestyle population to thumb their nose at Gates & Co. and boast that they "Think Different".
Do you really think that if Apple had Microsoft's market position that they wouldn't be loathed as much as Microsoft is today? There would be rants about closed media formats, DRM, and a proprietary hardware platform, among others. It's always easy to villify the successful guy at the top. - TheUngod, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The reason someone owns a Mac is because they really WANT a Mac. They are choosing the system they like more, even if it is against the status quo. With Windows, a good 90% of the people who use it are using it because they have to, and not because they chose to. Windows is necessary for most computer users, and that fact is why people tend to not like it. If the exact same software ran on Mac and PC, there would be way less people bashing MS, because the people who didn't like it wouldn't use it anymore. Right now however, MS gets a lot of ***** because people are almost forced into using it. I'm sure if you forced most people to use Mac instead, people would be bashing that like they do MS now. It's not that people love the underdog, they just like the ability to decide for themselves.
- MacParrot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4WOW! Switch to decaf please
- pt4117, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Forbes also named Kevin McHale the best general managers in sports.
http://www.forbes.com/business/2007/03/02/sports-greatest-gms-biz-cz_jg_0302gms.html
I don't think I can trust another thing they say. - swimtwobirds, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"If he starts singing I *swear* I'll switch to Windows."
get away. Gene Wilder had some great numbers.
Get Jobs some oompa's, a velvet smoker, top hat and a cane and I'd fly from Ireland to see the keynote. - chevyorange, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@rholloway
As for AAC, it plays on any computer, it is merely mpeg4. - pierrefilms, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I disagree. Steve Jobs was very popular and already had a cult status BEFORE Microsoft was a big player. Watch the 1984 Shareholders video and see for yourself. At that time there was no Windows and Microsoft was working WITH Apple, creating software like Word, etc for the Macintosh. Microsoft or not, Steve has always had a cult status.
Also, don't put Mac users into the 'rebel' box. Even if both Windows and Mac OS X had 50% of the market, I would still buy a Mac. Even if Apple had 95% of the market. We don't all buy Macs just to be different. Just to 'rebel' against "Big Brother". - macsimusprime, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://www.thethinkingblog.com/2007/02/cult-of-apple-part-1.html
- mobilehavoc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1My big question is why is he always wearing the same ***** black shirt and jeans EVERY ***** time you see him. Is it like his uniform or some type of fantasy superhero costume?
Just seems a very eccentric and odd thing about the guy. - superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't know that many people are really so much Jobs fans as they are Apple fans - the reason the keynotes are so popular is partly because of Jobs of course because he has a powerful speaking style, but moreso because of the products that Apple announces that are at least different in many ways from what everyone else in the industry is doing. People crave variety and Apple delivers; people crave good design and Apple delivers on that as well.
- waveman216, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5Exactly. This is lame.
- Greyarea, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If I saw him in that getup I'd suspect I was already flying...
- DiggDuggDamn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Kevin McHale best GM? That's like saying U can TRUST Nick Saban & Michael Jordan is the worst baller ever!
- psilanthropist, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2HEADLINE NEWS : Forbes says eating Asbestos is bad for you. Whoda thunk it !
- payndz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I've been waiting a long time to legitimately quote Alan Rickman as Hans Gruber, and now I can:
"I read the article in Fffffforbes."
Seriously though, this article was just filler. They couldn't even get Jeffrey Katzenberg's name right, for Christ's sake - they called him 'David'! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4The only sentences in the ENTIRE article that remotely mention Steve Jobs:
"Then there is nerd-fame. Perennially clad in a uniform of black turtleneck and jeans, Steve Jobs enjoys cultish celebrity status among fans of Apple (nasdaq: AAPL - news - people ), the computer company he founded in 1976. Jobs, worth $5.7 billion, has been touted as a creative mastermind thanks to Apple's uber-successful launch of the iPod and this year's announcement of the much-anticipated iPhone." - mutatron, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Wrong. He's also a productizer. It's one thing to make stuff, it's another to put it together into a product people want, and yet another to put it into a product people love. People don't love their iPods because Steve Jobs told them to, they love them because of the way they're designed, and Steve Jobs did that.
- alansky, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0"His genius is his concept of "planned obsolescence..." —rholloway
"Steve Jobs is a salesman... nothing more, nothing less." —kevin45
I don't know what rock you folks have been hiding under, but your attitudes are really scary. How can you be so dull-witted that it's possible to make the statements you've made with a straight face? But everything's fine... You don't have to use Apple products. You're already using just what you deserve. Go back to sleep now before too much reality gives you a heart attack! - swimtwobirds, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2eaaaaassssy. apple noodling's a pasttime. Anyway, who the hell else are we going to talk about?
ellison's a samurai/mirror mirror lunatic, gates is irretrievable.. at least jobs took peyote. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5From 3% to 4%?
- DforSpiD, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Yet we follow our dreams anyway
- vofuse, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I wonder what Woz is worth.
- MacParrot, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Oompa, Loompa, doompatidac
I had good reasons for using a Mac
Oompa, Loompa doompitidindows
I just preferred it to using Windows
What do you see while surfing on Digg?
Lot's of crazed fanboys flipping their wig
Why should they care what kind of computer?
Someone prefers they must be losers
Stuck in their basement while playing Half-Life
No chance to procreate because they can't find a wife
It's not too late, just step outside dudes
Just like the the oompa loompa doopitidoos
Yes, sometimes I have too much time on my hands - lkjashdflk, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3wasn't apple || that close to defeat back in what 1995, 96? And that Bill had to give apple $150 million so they didn't sink?
- rholloway, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5@rick
Oh, I get your point, but my opinion is based on personal experience. My first ever computer was a Mac. It worked for about 2 years, then started locking up, and I soon learned that my only option to upgrade my existing machine was to toss it in the trash and buy a new one.
So, instead I bought a new PC in 2002--it served me beyond well until about two months ago. I bought better PC, second-hand, booted a clean install of XP Pro and wound up upgrading my machine for about $250. I then took my old PC, built a home server out of it, and now have a pretty phat intranet. It all started with a new $1200 PC purchased in '02 (and deep discounted copy of XP Pro). I use my machine for web development, to give you a reference. My Mac was used primarly to play Sim City.
Could I have done this with a Mac purchased in 2002? Nope. A great friend of mine, who is an Apple fanatic, has bought three Macs in that same time frame at a total cost of about $7000 and has only a Mac to show for it. I've spent less than $1700 and have a complete intranet with the same amount of Intel processing power.
Just saying's all. The funniest thing here? I'm on my 3rd iPod. I'll never learn--but I've got everything in AAC, so I'm stuck. - Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I still get excited evertime I see that iPhone, more than any other Apple product ever this one excites me the most - forget about contracts and the politics of business etc., I love the technology in this device. I think even though it has been everywhere in the news lately, people still underestimate what this decive will do and how many may adopt it, it's ***** amazing IMO. Think of the games the likes of EA will come up with for this thing. Then imagine you get into your car and snap the iPhone into the dash - you have touch-screen interface for your cars entertainment system, and an iPod nano's worth of music to listen to too, and when a call comes in your iPhone will auto pause the music and auto turn on the loadspeaker through your cars speakers. THAT'S TRUE CONVERGENCE, AND THAT'S WELL POSSIBLE. Sure most of what the iPhone has been done before, but not like this, not this elegant and not all at once.
- Greyarea, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1"He's effectively the Willy Wonka of silicon valley..."
If he starts singing I *swear* I'll switch to Windows. - hifigi, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0The black turtleneck and jeans is so iconic now, but let's see a raise of hands...
Who thinks the old pastel-dress-shirt-and-bow-tie Steve Jobs was cooler? I do. - cthellis, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0It's Flavor Aid, dammit!
- deleuex, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1Kevin, Alex and Leo (Laporte) all share the cult status minus the multi-billion dollars of course
- gabeN, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2yeah, it's "red" flavored...
- stotch, on 10/12/2007, -12/+1***** steve jobs, im so sick of seeing diggs about him, who the ***** cares about steven jobs this and steve jobs that, jesus christ, why dont all u guys go see if steve jobs needs sum1 to t-bag his sack.
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