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First impressions: Apple 24-inch LED Cinema Display

arstechnica.com — As we noted yesterday, Apple's new 24-inch Cinema Display has shipped, and arrived this afternoon.

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  • bromac, on 11/27/2008, -8/+62Dell's Precision laptops have DisplayPort too. It's not an Apple proprietary standard.

    And Dell has no LED-backlit displays yet, as far as I know, and certainly not for the $300 budget panel price. Besides, Cinema Displays are known to be best-of-breed for colour accuracy, and LED-backlighting is only going to add to that. Designer types will pick these up in droves.

    In fact, every part of your post is factually incorrect, except for the price of the Cinema Display. Oh, how I pine for the days where Digg was still a technology site...and for Fjords, of course.
  • MarianaPeyton, on 11/26/2008, -23/+70It still costs $900 while Dell and others brands have comparable products for less than $300. And this only connects to the new Macbooks.
  • helloyamadotcom, on 11/27/2008, -5/+29The dell monitors aren't IPS. They don't have as much color gamut, viewing angle, etc. These are top quality monitors.
    They also include LED backlighting, which no dell monitor for under $300 has, like you say.
  • smashingmonkey, on 11/27/2008, -3/+23I can't believe they didn't include a DVI or HDMI port... why put out a display which is (out of the box) compatible with 1% of Apple computers? Got a new Mac Pro? You're SOL.
  • MScrip, on 11/27/2008, -3/+23It's a 24" LED display. Those are still pretty pricey... regardless of who makes it.
  • HimThatSpeaks, on 11/27/2008, -19/+39But the other brands do not have an Apple on it.
  • MScrip, on 11/27/2008, -1/+18Is it LED ?
  • BetterThanYou, on 11/27/2008, -9/+25What a waste of money.
  • j369852147412, on 11/27/2008, -1/+15I'm gonna make it short and simple this time. $300 24" monitors are TN panels. The apple LED Cinema Display is a IPS panel. http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=difference+bet ...
  • gobbo, on 11/27/2008, -1/+15A $9000 video camera does pretty much what a $350 camcorder does. It's better. It is certainly not 27 times better.

    Pro gear costs disproportionately more. It isn't just all gouging, either. That last 10% of improvement can cost orders of magnitude more, no matter what the project or equipment.
  • helloyamadotcom, on 11/27/2008, -2/+14Yay for IPS panels. I'm sick of TN.
    Too bad it doesnt have an HDMI input though.
    And how the hell are you supposed to plug in a mac equipped with DVI, or a PC with DVI?
  • gobbo, on 11/27/2008, -4/+15Woah, Dell makes $300 LED backlit 24-inch IPS monitors? On what planet?

    LED = more even light, less power, more brightness
    IPS = the ability to do more reliable colour-based graphics work

    (for reference, look at LaCie's comparable graphics monitors and their prices)
  • inactive, on 11/27/2008, -7/+17I didn't know dell made a $300 24 inch LED display with a web cam.
  • roxgod666, on 11/27/2008, -3/+13How can you tell it is a pretty screen if you're looking at it through your own screen?
  • inactive, on 11/27/2008, -4/+13Yes, 500$ for a sticker. Yeah, i'll pass on that.
  • digitalpencil, on 11/27/2008, -4/+12^ i love these douches.. you present them with facts and all they do is spout *****.
    here goes.. led-lit IPS and ***** CCFL-TN panels are in a completely different ballgame, hence the difference in price (across the board), you're Belinea's 10gazillion:1 'dynamic' ratio is complete and utter ***** and not comparable as is your 360º viewing angle.

    These monitors are not comparable to your crappy dell/belinea/acer. they are in the NEC/LaCIE ballpark and are used by pros for accurate color reproduction not kids playing crysis/wow or whatever the ***** you people do when you're not whinging about 'bwhbwhbwh apple costs a lot' on digg.
    grow the ***** up..
  • mrBitch, on 11/27/2008, -0/+8@umbolo RE: " If you want "best", you go for either NEC or EIZO, that's it. Displays from both manufacturers are much more suited for color critical work, and have more advanced options - and yes - 24"+ models cost MORE than this Apple display.

    Also, to all the idiots comparing this display with $300 ones - please at least read basics about monitor technology, different panel types etc. There's much more to display technology than diagonal size and resolution, you know... "


    Well said, but even so... we will still have idiots saying :

    "but I just bought a $300 LCD that does EVERYTHING this Apple Display does!!! "
  • BossKey, on 11/27/2008, -0/+8> probably uses the same exact LCD panel as the Apple 24-inch. I don't understand why anyone would pay $350 more for something with less features and greater restriction

    You need to make sure you get that "same exact LCD." Just Google "Dell panel lottery" if you want to know about their bait-and-switch, where all early units get the good panels, then after all the good reviews roll in they start using cheaper panels.
  • slothlovechunk, on 11/27/2008, -5/+12So do other displays.

    Apple does not have a corner on the "good color" market.

    But, by all means, waste 400 dollars or so just so you can have that little apple on it.
  • BossKey, on 11/27/2008, -1/+8And yet other monitors at the same resolution cost $1200+, for pros.
  • digitalpencil, on 11/27/2008, -1/+8^ yeh, digg him down.. so outrageous to tell the truth!!
    8ms response times are about as believable as 10000:1 'dynamic' ratios..
  • nutmac, on 11/27/2008, -2/+9Apple, bundle DVI to mini DisplayPort adapter for 99.9999% of the Mac users.
  • Zalian, on 11/26/2008, -7/+14Well, I have to say that looks like a very pretty screen. 24 inches is pretty big. I guess it comes with a mortgage as well.
  • umbolo, on 11/27/2008, -0/+7@ Rikkochet

    No, color profiles aren't for that. No color profile in the world will help you if you for example have ***** TN panel based monitor, or have it calibrated the wrong way (or not at all). Obviously you have no bloody idea about profiles, monitor technology, prepress, color reproduction etc etc, so please stop spreading ignorant BS.

    On the other hand - no, Apple monitors aren't known to be "best of the breed". They are good, and a lot of professionals use them (but more often than not because they already have Apple desktops and "believe" in brand, and not because they really understand differences in various models and technologies used - I'm quite sure that 90% of professional photographers or graphic designers couldn't explain you the differences in TN, VA and SIPS panels, even if you put gun to their head). If you want "best", you go for either NEC or EIZO, that's it. Displays from both manufacturers are much more suited for color critical work, and have more advanced options - and yes - 24"+ models cost MORE than this Apple display.

    Also, to all the idiots comparing this display with 300$ ones - please at least read basics about monitor technology, different panel types etc. There's much more to display technology than diagonal size and resolution, you know...

    Anyway, pros would be better off with more "pro" displays, this is ideal for uber cool agencies, groovy art directors, semi pros, Apple fanboys etc...
  • Rudiger81, on 11/27/2008, -3/+10The 16ms response time is a marketing gimik that Apple doesn't play to but lower end LCD manufacturers love to tout. Even dell doesn't really play to it too much. The ones that are often touted by BenQ and so on are Black to Black response time (I think, might be black to white or something). Color to color they are all pretty much 16ms, some rare ones might go down to 12ms but I haven't seen them. Apple only tells you the color to color response time because its more true for the LCDs performance.
  • BryanJK, on 11/27/2008, -3/+9Is there actually anything that justifies the price on this monitor? I don't see why people would spend $600 more for the same monitor dell has
  • houndeyex, on 11/27/2008, -1/+7People in this country own houses they can't pay for. You have to be cheap somewhere.
  • defectDS, on 11/27/2008, -1/+7I have used the 24 inch and a 30 inch dell monitors at work and neither compare to our cinema displays. The dell's have horrible color no matter how much correcting we try and they're extremely grainy.

    Oh but hey, I don't know quality. Neither am I financially stable. I'm just an ignorant, senseless consumer that loves sucking Steve Jobs' *****. ¬_¬
  • digitalpencil, on 11/27/2008, -0/+6yeh, i'll do all my print work with a tv?
  • BossKey, on 11/27/2008, -1/+7Depends on how good it is. Compare the price to these
    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000MT4L1S/
    http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detai ...
  • solarwind24, on 11/27/2008, -2/+8You morons, it's just an LCD display with an LED backlight... A REAL LED display (where the pixels are actual LEDs) will cost somewhere in the range of several thousands...
  • digitalpencil, on 11/27/2008, -2/+8^ instant warmup, brightness distribution, intensity, white/black levels and depreciation.
  • Rudiger81, on 11/27/2008, -1/+6Its meant to be the new standard. Just like HDMI, DVI and so on. Proprietary means only one company controls it and it hasn't gone through the testing as standards do. (I spose technically more then one company could own it) Just like AAC, many people think that it stands for Apple Audio Codec, it actually stands for Advanced Audio Codec, its a standard thats open to all to use, unfortunately at a fee just like the DP.
  • NerveBand, on 11/27/2008, -17/+22These Apple Cinema Display's produce great color, a must for graphic designers and movie producers. These monitors were designed for those in the media industry who need top notch products at safe haven prices. This is not for joe six pack.
  • mrBitch, on 11/27/2008, -0/+5So, you can point out the $300 Dell 24 inch LED display with IPS that does NOT have a webcam then... can you?

    dick head.
  • TWallaceWD, on 11/27/2008, -0/+5I find books useless, too. I can only view one page at a time. I prefer them to be printed on one very long sheet. They could be distributed much like toilet paper that way.
  • SteelProboscis, on 11/27/2008, -7/+12The monitor may be better than anything from Dell or Samsung, but is it 3 times better? Methinks not.
  • mrBitch, on 11/27/2008, -1/+6@itsthebrod, if you don't think LED matters at all, then you really shouldn't comment on the price of this display...

    Stick to playing Crysis on your $200 LCD...
  • MScrip, on 11/27/2008, -1/+6> "Why does that matter at all?"

    Because LED displays are better, and cost more?
  • HimThatSpeaks, on 11/27/2008, -0/+5Yeah, but a luminous one.
  • digitalpencil, on 11/27/2008, -1/+6i love it.. by that logic all the pros can throw out their hasselblads cause kodak have a P&S that does pretty much the same job and costs a /100th of the price!
  • fanclerks, on 11/27/2008, -0/+5It's an IPS panel. The response times are different from TN panels like I'm sure you're used to.
  • inactive, on 11/27/2008, -1/+6Ok, so if its a niche product, then why is it being mass marketed to everyone? I agree, its a nice monitor that will finally allow professionals stuck in CRT land to free up desk top space, but the average user isnt going to tell the difference between this and a typical LCD of the same size.
  • cubicledrone, on 11/27/2008, -6/+10You get what you pay for. The people of this country have become cheap *****.
  • larsvilhelmsen, on 11/27/2008, -2/+6If digg payed as much attention to every infinitesimal PC/windows update as it does to every apple minuscule improvement - however insignificant - what would it be like?

    (not to belitle the fascinating apple 24-inch, or apple in general - I think they are great. It's just - I am very sensitive to any kind of hype... Just as I would really love windows/Pc platforms to have more of what makes OS X great and less of the 'we know what options you need right now´-attitude that really gets on my nerve
  • kurough, on 11/27/2008, -3/+7What's with the Dell vs Apple comparisons? I never buy from Dell or Apple, I just go to newegg.com or other tech sites and get way better deals than I'd find from Dell or Apple.
  • Billions, on 11/27/2008, -0/+4what a petty, small comment
  • peterjmag, on 11/27/2008, -3/+7Good point, I hadn't thought of that. I do still think it's ridiculous that they won't include a DVI/HDMI port though at that price.
  • jediorange, on 11/27/2008, -0/+4DisplayPort is free
  • MScrip, on 11/27/2008, -0/+4Did everybody suddenly forget how to use Google?

    http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=Dwight+Schrute ...
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