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- S2ThaNizzle, on 11/10/2007, -0/+22I actually like the fact that each space does not have its own dock. That way, I can easily switch to the app I want without having to remember which space it is currently occupying.
- Ireland, on 11/09/2007, -9/+24"Unusable"?
That's straight-up bull crap. - inactive, on 11/09/2007, -12/+27My experience hasn't been as good as with other new operating systems from Apple. It lost my keychain, and locked the new one. Quicktime is acting stupid; it doesn't seem to want to play nice with Flip4Mac when working with wmv's. Overall I like it, though. I hope Apple can get the bugs squashed.
- RevToTheRedline, on 11/10/2007, -4/+18I've been pretty happy with Leopard so far, I did a clean install which I think is part of most peoples problems that I talk to, updating an OS never goes well... Oh Windows days. But any updates and fixes are more than welcome.
- damonic, on 11/08/2007, -2/+13Oh good - that Quicktime issue isn't just me...
- MageOfChrisz, on 11/14/2007, -2/+12... Because Windows has had a proper implementation of moving files/folders since before windows 2000, and OS X doesn't have it in 10.5?
- drlha, on 11/09/2007, -2/+11Anybody who used the initial releases of Tiger, Panther, Jaguar, Puma, and hell why not: OS X 10.0 was a basket case. Apple are well known for this, you follow a simple rule: If your machine is mission critical, don't update until the .3 version comes out. That said, Leopard is one of the best initial releases of an Apple OS I've experienced, much better than Tiger.
- Gustav, on 11/08/2007, -0/+9"Tiger was the perfect OS."
Then why upgrade? - phoomp, on 11/10/2007, -4/+13Microsoft seems to be able to do a decent job testing their software against a far greater combination of real world scenarios, and they have zero control over the hardware. Why Apple can't test for every possible combination of their locked-down hardware with their proprietary software is quite beyond me.
- Eallan, on 11/09/2007, -2/+11I have no problems with leopard at all. /shrug
- kday, on 11/08/2007, -0/+7ummm, no. Quite normal.
Try again. - darkspire, on 11/09/2007, -3/+10While I would agree spaces needs improvement I would hardly say it's useless as is. Desktop customization would be nice but isn't crucial. The expose integration is very nice. The menubar/dock integration could be better. You Control Desktops was better in many respects and worse in others. Neither compare to what has been available for the last ten years via various X11 window managers though. As it stands now I'm using Spaces instead of You Control Desktops and I couldn't live without at least one of them.
In fact, the only thing I like about Leopard so far are spaces. I don't use the new dock (not that I really used the dock before). Stacks are slower for me than just opening a finder window in every instance I've seen a stack so far as I always end up opening the stack and then clicking the open finder button. Time Machine backs up things I don't want it to including things I've specifically asked it to not back up. Cover Flow in the finder is annoying unless used very sporadically (media folders). When combined with the numerous bugs that are listed all over every forum out there I don't think that this is an update worth $129. It is incremental at best. Now if read/write ZFS and ZFS for root file system support had been available I would probably overlook a lot of this and just patiently wait for 10.5.1. - gerrymac, on 11/08/2007, -3/+9Spaces is a great app, but your right it needs to have separate docks, it needs to remember previous spaces and it needs to run applications seperatly in different spaces. Spaces tends to want to dedicate an application to each space, i want to be able to run a program in several spaces. I have a work email and home email i want a window for each in my spaces for work and home, i want a space with Pages and keynote for my presentation on monday, but i also want a space with pages and safari for my research article. you can do this but it is rather clumsy.
Spaces is a good app and a great concept but apple needs to iron out some of the kinks before this is a truly great app. - kingfoot, on 11/08/2007, -1/+7everything's fine with mine... im still running on all cylinders albeit slightly slower to startup/shutdown and a slight performance decrease with some applications responsiveness, but nothing unexpected for an almost 2 year old macbook...
- marcushe, on 11/09/2007, -5/+11Spaces needs to actually be usable with dual-monitors.
- drtyrell, on 11/09/2007, -9/+15I'm running into keychain problems, corrupted text in documents that i've recently edited, and I'm praying that Time Machine doesn't destroy my data. For me the saddest feature is Spaces. It would appear that its entirely useless as currently designed. Each space needs to be remembered between boots, and save its own dock.
- inactive, on 11/08/2007, -0/+5Yep, I always install clean. I just think it's good for the computer to get cleaned out once in a while. Then when I'm rebuilding my Home folder, I can go through things and can accumulated junk.
- drlha, on 11/08/2007, -3/+8Tiger was ***** when it first came out. Then after a few point releases, it started to rock. Its early days for Leopard, give it time and it will rock too.
- RevToTheRedline, on 11/08/2007, -0/+5You should have brought it back, it's a faulty graphics card. head over to macrumors.com and read up.
I've come to the conclusion that I'm one of VERY VERY few people that have a rock solid aluminum iMac, I feel sorry for the people that don't, I'd be pissed. - zezerik, on 11/14/2007, -1/+6Ding!
- ExSlashdotter, on 11/11/2007, -0/+5The mac is kind of different as far OS installs/upgrades go. As long as you keep your user directory and your user entry in the netinfo database (so you can log into said directory), then your Applications folder is more than likely the only other thing you care about. After all, when you run an 'Archive and Install' reinstall from your OS disk, it just keeps said items and overwrites the rest of your OS. The 'Migration Assistant' utility to move to a new mac is only doing the same.
- MikeCerm, on 11/08/2007, -2/+7Well, you follow Microsoft's example. Vista was in public beta for about a year, and then the final code was released for a few months before the official release so 3rd parties could catch up. Even then, Vista wasn't perfectly bug free (and there still weren't good video drivers).
Apple was still finalizing Leopard less than a month from the official release. They certainly could have avoided a lot of problems by testing it more before the release and by doing a public beta, but they prefer to keep everything secret. People who bought Leopard on release day should have been expecting a lot of bugs. Give it 3 months, and everything will be fine. - damonic, on 11/08/2007, -0/+5It works fine inside my network at home but not over the internet...
- themonkman, on 11/08/2007, -0/+5It'd be nice if they fixed the inability to bind to Active Directory. It sure makes the expensive ADmitMac software for managing those clients absolutely worthless. Odd thing is that binding to Active Directory worked with all the 10.5 developer seeds I previewed.
- pyrophire, on 11/08/2007, -4/+9It must be an isolated issue, I can connect to any share in mac or windows without any problems.
- rickcarson, on 11/08/2007, -0/+4It is also released to developers at the same time.
- Kelmon, on 11/08/2007, -0/+4At the moment I have 3 major issues with Spaces that are driving me nuts. Oddly, none of them are the issue that you're citing and I have to agree with other commenters that individual Docks would probably be more trouble than they are worth (still, the option would at least keep everyone happy). For the record my issues are:
1. Random switches to other Spaces for no apparent reason
2. Spaces gets confused as to which Space to switch to when changing to an application with windows open in multiple Spaces (it should switch to the application windows in your current Space, if available)
3. Spaces seems to pick an arbitrary application window to select when switching to an application in another Space (it should enable the last window enabled in that Space for the application)
That last one is the one that is giving me the most issues at the moment since if I switch back to Mail it's a lottery as to which Mail window will be selected. Equally, I often find that switching back to Pages will sometimes result in an Inspector panel being selected rather than the document I was writing. Minor issues really but absolutely maddening when they keep happening throughout the day. - xaxxon, on 11/08/2007, -0/+4No, it's actually broken. They know about it and are working on a fix. I know this from our apple rep at my large company that is in process of rolling out mac laptops for employees who want them. That's basically the only thing that's stopping us.
- davidrossiii, on 11/08/2007, -0/+4At least they're fixing the issues with the OS immediately and not waiting half a year.
*cough cough Vista cough cough* - ttamshadbolt, on 11/08/2007, -0/+4I think you need uPNP enabled on your router for it to work... very insecure though
- Ireland, on 11/08/2007, -1/+5The only "issue" I have with Leopard is that it has set the back light of my iMac too high. Even at the lowest brightness setting, my new 24" iMac is still a little bit too bright. I hope to God Apple adds this to 10.5.1. And yes, it is a software/firmware issue, and not a hardware one.
- Kelmon, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3You'd have thought that a clean install would ensure no problems but I've encountered a lot of bugs. I can't say that QuickTime is giving me issues but Spaces is driving me nuts. This update can't come soon enough for me.
- inactive, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3I tend to agree. It looks like it has potential but it this currnet form it could be better. I am a designer and I have graphic desktops. It would be nice to be able to assign a desktop picture to a given space. In addition to being helpful with the graph pictures, it would give a visuial confirmation as to which space you're in.
- Tippis, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3You can be pretty certain that there are far more bugs than that -- these are just showstoppers that didn't show up untill the OS encountered "the real world".
- natenovs, on 11/08/2007, -1/+4i see 58 updates for windows, 11 for office, and 4 for other microsoft products in my vista update history.
seems to me like theyve been rolling out patches all along... - DaffyDuck, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3I think it's user error. Leopard connects very nicely with my Windows shared folders on my desktop machine. If he provided more info instead of claiming it's unusable he might not get dugg down. I wonder if he has actually asked for advice to solve his problem instead of just complaining?
- wrttnwrd, on 11/08/2007, -1/+4Man I'm glad they're getting fixes out quick. Overall it's working great but my Macbook's power management is shot - I burn through a battery in about 45 minutes.
- abohling, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3In what way does it not work? I'm asking seriously here because I have one rogue install to support and I'd like all the help I can get.
- unloud, on 11/09/2007, -0/+3"i want to be able to run a program in several spaces."
You can do that when you add a program in the spaces prefrences (in the same drop down as selecting the space). - bigsteve, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3Yea, what's Apple's problem, fixing known issues and stuff? What do they think they're doing, bettering their current flagship software product? You're embarrassing.
- xaxxon, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3I hope they fix Safari crashing while using SPNEGO and kerberos. Right now to get it to not crash when going to kerb sites, you have to set a bogus kerb credential cache so it falls back to basic auth.. *sigh*
- ttamshadbolt, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3Did you do a clean install? (for my info)
- nicc, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3same here. I see all of these "this feature is broken and this feature doesnt work" and I'm sitting here thinking, what the hell are these people doing to their machines? what kind of 3rd party apps/utilities are they installing that could be causing their issues?
maybe its an issue with installing (you are doing a "clean" install, right?!) on the intel machines?
my 3 G4 machines installed great and run better with Leopard than they did with Tiger...my Powerbook airport has much better signal strength, the battery lasts longer and the new finder is great with its autodiscovery of shares.
maybe we're the lucky ones? - dagamer34, on 11/08/2007, -0/+3I actually think Leopard gives me more battery life. Weird.
- Hobofuzz, on 11/08/2007, -3/+6Works just fine for me with two monitors..
- tao52nyc, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2I've done three installs - an upgrade to a Macbook Pro (which actually FIXED some Keychain problems I was having with Tiger! LOL), a clean install on a MacPro tower, and an upgrade to an older G5 tower. I've had no problems so far, except that it took two tries to do the upgrade on the G5 - had a kernel panic the first time out...weird.
- DelMonte, on 11/10/2007, -1/+3"if the manufacturer is prepared to charge you money for the product then you have the right to expect that it works."
You're not a programmer aren't you? - Kelmon, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2A clean install is no guarantee that you won't have problems - however, at least you shouldn't be bringing problems with you to join the new ones.
- TheYoshi, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2I bet you have non-alphanumeric characters in your password. Try URI escaping them or temporarily change your password for the shares to only be alpha-numeric, I be that fixes your issues.
- stoops, on 11/08/2007, -0/+2Cheetah
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