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- MattLat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16oh man, when Steve Jobs announced that IE 5.5 for the mac would be the default browser... such a bad move. All the boos were very fitting.
- PeTeRZz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Wow, 1997 was 10 years ago!
Where has the time gone.......... - MikeyisaFag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I gotta say, Jobs has to be one of the best public speakers of our time, it had to have been EXCRUCIATING to tell all the Apple users that they would get a piece of Microsoft software with every computer. For him to take those boos and turn them around into a standing ovation at the end is simply awe inspiring. JOBS '08. =D
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@bobman2007
Thanks man, i expected to just get dugg down with no answer..i appreciate it, seriously - TehMasterer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Damn this is '97? Everything looks soooo 80s, the techno intro, the ***** multi-colored apple logo...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Lol I was 12 back then, and I still remember reading all the MacWorld and MacAddict magazines.
I have used just about every mac since then...my first was a Mac IIci (with the Cache card too!) - mikeazorin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Definitely. 1997 sounds like it was such a short time ago, but then you realize it was TEN years ago. Damn.
- CrimsonFlash, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Best quote by Steve from this keynote.
"We have to lose this notion that in order for Apple to win, Microsoft has to lose. But we have to embrace the notion that for Apple to win, we have to do a real good job."
It looks like they took this to heart. :) - Brandondork, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Digg Different
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4IE5 on the Mac was a very highly regarded and influential browser in its time. Many considered it to be the best available. It was the most standards compliant at the time, and contained many innovative UI features not found anywhere else on the Mac or Windows. Many of the fundamental UI features and keyboard shortcuts found todya in Firefox originally appeared IE5/Mac.
By the time OS X had come of age, however, IE5 for the Mac had fallen from grace. - Tolzmaniac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i bet powerpoint was used for that presentation.
- cstrike006, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3whoa....no turtleneck?
- Lazybones, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I love that movie... The title is so fitting with the way Bill and Steve run around taking over the industy. Makes you shed a tear for the Xerox development team that did the real ground breaking work.
- bobman2007, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3At that time, Apple was releasing way too many different Mac computers and was losing a lot of money.
- Brandondork, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I say merge... Macrosoft
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2sorry to ask....but what happened to make apple a litte "unhealty" then?
- bobman2007, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2np. :)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Declining sales, and they were hemorrhaging money.
Mac OS hadn't been significantly improved since 1990 (System 7). While their user interface was still highly regarded and very influential, their OS was losing very badly at a technological level (performance and reliability) to Windows 95 and Windows NT, due to Apple's inability to update the OS past its 1984-based architecture.
In 1990, System 7 was supposed to be the end of the line for the old OS architecture. Apple had been promising a next-generation OS (multi-process, protected memory, etc) since then, but could never deliver, leaving their users increasingly disillusioned. In 1997, Apple was set on purchasing Be Computer and use BeOS as Apple's next-gen OS, but the deal fell through and Apple went with Steve Jobs' company, NeXT Computer, and used its OS, NeXTStep, as the next-gen Apple OS, which of course became OS X.
I not sure that Apple and Mac OS would still be around today if they had gone with Be Computer and BeOS instead of NeXTStep. - vudicarus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3cool. i've not seen this. i've been watching pirates of silicon valley on youtube and was wondering about the opening scene when jobs introduces gates and the audience boos. yep, the movie gets that, and the look on bill's face, right.
- fligwam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2 Love seeing the older keynotes. Always interesting!
Side Note: Apple was never close to filing bankrupty as the author of the article had to mention. Apparently, as many Apple doom-sayers were unable to do at that time, rumor & speculation were never truly separated from the facts. - pustulio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2lol
- Bramus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1At around 28:20 somewhere that is (for those wanting to fast forward) ;)
- pinus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I like their new ads:
"30 years was just begininning..." - Phillbo88, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1He might have something there with this, what is it called System 8? I for one can't imagine it getting any better than this.
- potterboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4436710013736446644 Slightly higer resolution FLV
- pustulio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I know exactly how you feel.
- nakamaru, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1interesting.
- potterboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://expowiki.org/
EDIT: Crap, another Keynote download site gone! - PathDaemon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No. Not another one of these sites. Spam at its worst, dragging in everyday users.
- rimantas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1IE5.5 for the Mac? IE/Mac never got past version 5.2 And at that time it well may be that this browser had the best rendering engine (Tasman). It got so many things right that IE/win did not catch up till version 7.
One example - IE/Mac5 was the first browser to introduce text resizing. It can resize text with font size set in pixels.
IE/Win could not do that (and you may argue IE7 still cannot - it resizes whole page).
IE5/Mac was the first browser to pass CSS1 test suite, and so on.
Sure it is dead now. But who needs IE, when Mac has the best browser - Safari. It was the first browser to pass
ACID2 test, it supports multiple backgrounds in CSS, and nightly builds of WebKit bring more and more interesting features... - potterboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://www.esm.psu.edu/Faculty/Gray/graphics/movies/Apple%20MacWorld%20Boston%201997%20The%20Return%20Of%20Steve%20Jobs.mp4
Macworld Boston 1997
EDIT: All my old keynote dloads are dead :( - ResonantToe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Didn't they also do the whole Licensing to third party hardware vendors which Jobs abandoned pretty quickly on his return.
- PathDaemon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Any way to get this in a format other than FLV? Torrent an mp4 or DivX, perhaps?
- shovel666, on 06/28/2008, -0/+0To understand why Apple had to make IE the default browser, one must gather both facts and well-founded rumors. Microsoft was in the midst of a battle against the number one browser, Netscape which was the ONLY browser shipping with Mac OS. Apple was in the middle of a battle against Power Computing, Apple's stiffest competition at the time and the ONLY clone maker that depended entirely on Mac OS licensing for survival (Motorola, Umax and the rest had lots of other ventures). Gates poured cash into Apple to allow Apple to buy Power Computing and immediately snuff it out of existence, paving the way for a smooth demise of clone licensing. In exchange, Apple agreed to make IE default. In fact, the Justice Department was already gearing up to investigate the Netscape squashing by Microsoft and Jobs must have expected it to force MS to break up and thus negate any benefit to MS. He probably also had his long-range plan to build an Apple browser. Safari is the reason MS got p*ssed off and quit making IE for Mac, 5.23 in 2003 was the last.
- FelixDrylock, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Microsoft, dummy.
- yensed, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1"At the 26 minute mark you can see Steve’s first Keynote bombshell (and it was a big one)"
What happen? I didn't notice anything. - TeenForums, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Thank god for Safari these days. :)
Has anyone else noticed that the Macworld Logo seemed to had been ripped off by PC World? - Brandondork, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3Steve Jobs... hero to geeks, nerds, dweebs, whimps, losers and people who care to much about computers everwhere! Lets see him match how much Bill Gates donates a year
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -20/+5***** YOU APPLE. MICROSOFT OWNS YOU
- cool7cap, on 10/12/2007, -17/+0brings back memories
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