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- hoa801enator, on 10/10/2007, -13/+301wait a minute. That's not a real ad at all! This must be some sort of sarcastic joke implying that we're going to illega.....oh...
haha..i see what he did there. - TheCount, on 10/10/2007, -1/+237Well that's odd, I guess I've been beta testing for a while now and didn't know it.
- diggstown, on 10/10/2007, -7/+215Anyone other than NBC fanboys have anything to say on this topic? $4.99/episode is robbery and there's no genius behind that stupidity.
- devinjohnson2, on 10/10/2007, -3/+160NBC is asking for it, you can't expect people to pay those outrageous prices.
Oh, not only is free nice, but you can get them in hi def. - jmhyer51, on 10/10/2007, -3/+112I'd like to see the numbers on that.
- EvilAnimator, on 10/10/2007, -13/+101You are an idiot.
- jmhyer51, on 10/10/2007, -3/+88Free is nice
- osiris911, on 10/10/2007, -2/+83Erm...What is this V-H-S you speak of?
- streak, on 10/10/2007, -6/+82Jeff Gaspin is the genius at NBC behind the recent decision. He's been in the job since February 2007, with a more recent change of position at the end of July.
- portwojc, on 10/10/2007, -2/+69Odd that NBC now turns away from the very thing that saved at least one of it's shows.
http://www.tuaw.com/2006/10/31/how-itunes-saved-nbcs-the-office/ - GuinnessGoblin, on 10/10/2007, -3/+69That actually looks like it would be a cool bittorrent application. An iTunes look alike with aggregated bittorrent files? Sweet!
- TheCount, on 10/10/2007, -2/+64I just love how NBC tried to seem bigger than Apple by announcing that they were pulling off iTunes, and failed to mention why that is. It's like the preemptive break-up in hopes of avoiding looking like the one that was dumped.
- Virak, on 10/10/2007, -0/+59A long-obsolete porn distribution technology, used many years before the creation of civilization.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -24/+82photoshoped.
- kingvik, on 10/10/2007, -1/+47I see what you did there.
- SourWorm, on 10/10/2007, -1/+46What's the difference between me recording it or someone else doing it and then getting it from them.
- Wasyu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+44Then Jeff Gaspin is an effing moron because no one in their right mind would by $4.99 to dl a tv episode heck I wouldn't even pay that much for a PPV movie.
- SquigglyP, on 10/10/2007, -1/+43Anyone else expecting a photo of a TV?
- stigma15, on 10/10/2007, -2/+44NBC fanboys?
- Cerpin_Taxt, on 10/10/2007, -4/+36revenue != profit
iTunes sales are purely profit, while only a slim fraction of ad revenue is profit. - aristotle0dude, on 10/10/2007, -3/+32You also get paid twice as much for a minimum starting wage and your pound sterling goes a lot farther when you travel abroad. Where is that famous stiff upper lip the brits are famous for? When did you all turn into a bunch of whiny pussies?
Stop using online exchange rate calculators to compare foreign prices. Those exchange rates only matter when you actually travel abroad or actually buy something from overseas and even then you will "never" get that rate on a purchase or currency exchange transaction. - fantasticFlan, on 10/10/2007, -2/+31Even if they sold at the iTunes price, they're still asking me to go to an unfamiliar site and download an unfamiliar format that almost definitely won't play on my iPod, so when I miss Scrubs or The Office, I'm headed right for the torrents.
- testbenchdude, on 10/10/2007, -0/+27Hm. Whenever I miss a show, I often resort to BT. The way I see it, what's the difference between my fast-forwarding through commercials with a DVR or downloading them without commercials via BT? Nothing. I'm not making any money off the download and neither is the seeder. We're simply choosing to watch what we want, how we want. There is an alternative, however. I somehow missed the entire run of season 1 of NBC's sitcom "30Rock", but stumbled upon it on their website. They let you watch the entire season, in its entirety, with each show divided into three chunks. There are thirty-second ads preceding each chunk, which I will take ANY TIME over the 2-4 minutes of commercials every 7 minutes which I would have had to sit through during the network broadcast. This to me is the perfect balance between ads and programing. I can only hope they do this with more shows.
- evi1, on 10/10/2007, -3/+30But "I see what you did there" is still going strong.
- omarciddo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+27You flamers really have no sense of sarcasm, do you?
- SantaClauz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+27...
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*sigh* - TenebrousX, on 10/10/2007, -0/+25if you got caught twice, you're doing something wrong
- loconet, on 10/10/2007, -1/+26sure, until more and more people just download sans ads and those companies who advertise realize they're wasting their $ :)
- Fourbin, on 10/10/2007, -3/+27Unbelievable. My friend and I were just discussing how now NBC is just FORCING us to grab the torrents.
- Terc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+22Hurray for missing the point.
- TheCount, on 10/10/2007, -4/+26Your caps button seems to have gotten stuck half way through your comment.
- louiemantia, on 10/10/2007, -3/+25The image was manipulated using Adobe® Photoshop® software.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21Language evolves. Torrent is now a verb just like how Google is officially recognized as a verb.
- Systematic1, on 10/10/2007, -8/+29I'll probably be dugg down to the pits of hell, but why not just watch them when they're on tv? I mean, I have a Thursday night class, but I tape the office and watch it friday afternoon. It's not that hard, and with the exception of vhs tapes (which cost like $3 for 500 of them anymore) , it's free.
- dheaddy, on 10/10/2007, -2/+23This is quite appropriate after the UK just received TV shows on iTunes, which are going for £1.89 each which is around $3.80. Torrents ftw it seems
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -4/+24lol
- fusama, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21legality
- Bleeblaow, on 10/10/2007, -6/+24That is kind of funny, because I keep seeing the same articles vilifying NBC appear on the Apple section of Digg. And you're asking about NBC "fanboys." What the ***** is an NBC "fanboy" anyway? I mean, I enjoyed The Office and Heroes. Does that make me an NBC "fanboy"? Or does it make me an NBC "fanboy" because I don't really see what the big ***** deal is about a company deciding they want to charge more money for their product. I don't use iTunes. I've downloaded NBC shows illegally. I've also watched them legally, for free, on my television. Point being, I have not paid a dime directly to NBC to watch their shows (all I pay is time and money for cable television).
So, please indulge me, what would an NBC "fanboy" have to say about this? Because I think that you're confusing the idea of an NBC fanboy and someone who is not an Apple fanboy. You know that it is possible to be a rational thinker and not really give a ***** when one company stops doing business with another, right? And instead of posting a twenty paragraph rant on our blogs or sitting on Digg.com and burying any comments that don't berate NBC for their business decision, we may choose to, I don't know, not give a *****.
And if that makes me an NBC fanboy, despite the fact that I watch television very little and when I do it usually is not NBC, then kudos to your new and extremely loose definition of fanboy. - Engival, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18I guess you've never SSHed to a server, FTPed a file, or VNCed to your desktop. Face it, protocols have been used as verbs for quite a while, with quite a clear meaning of their intent. This is what language does, it communicates a meaning.
- dawgma, on 10/10/2007, -4/+22that was... a terrible analogy.
- indiepenguins, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18This is so ***** stupid. I pay 4.99 a MONTH for HBO. That is, about 10 channels, including one in HD, and HBO OnDemand. Thats all the HBO I can watch with no commercials either. No way would I ever pay $4.99 for one 22 minute show.
- thuang513, on 10/10/2007, -3/+19because its not broadcasted in every single place in the world...
- LaueOfficer, on 10/10/2007, -2/+17That's cool. Just thought I'd let you know I blocked you for being an idiot.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+159.99 for 16 episodes of the daily show is not moronic.
- prisoner24601, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16My perspective on this is almost as a "neutral outside observer" because I don't watch The Office, I don't use torrents, and I don't use iTunes. NBC and Apple having this spat, and if/when it ever gets resolved will have basically no impact on my life whatsoever, so I really am an almost completely disinterested third party on this subject.
So having said that, I see this as probably about the most idiotic mistake NBC could have possibly made. The massive number of "I think I'll just torrent this" / "where do I get torrents?" / "here's my favorite torrent client" comments here should just scare NBC (and the other networks) to death. This is unquestionably the most damaging event in the industry's overall efforts to develop a stable base of repeat and paying content purchasers in many months. That NBC could have blundered this badly stuns me. The notion that people will pay more that $2 is absurd. The notion that they will be willing to use more than one interface is absurd. (Imagine having to have one account with NBC on their site, another on ABC, another... etc. Laughable!) What's amazing is how NBC has managed to pick the core group of the exact online users they were hoping to have (paying consumers) and directly convert them to exactly what they DON'T want (pirates) in one fell swoop! It's like watching a train wreck... - badken, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15Yes, I'm a moron for supporting shows that I like and helping in some small way for the people who produce those shows to continue making TV that I enjoy. I buy DVDs, too... man I must REALLY be stupid!
- jofaz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13NBC is screwed when people figure out they can get an unencrypted mpeg2 HD feed of all of the NBC shows for free right out of the air in most areas of the country.
- ericdano, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13I didn't
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13You should just stay silent until spoken to.
- Oakes, on 10/10/2007, -4/+14You're wrong. Profits are calculated after the expenses for producing the content are deducted. Whether they put their content on iTunes or on air, IT HAS THE SAME FIXED EXPENSES.
iTunes is not "pure profit" for the same reason TV ads aren't; they needed to make the content in the first place. -
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