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- F9Phoenix, on 07/12/2008, -6/+51For the average consumer, this is a great phone. I believe some here have lost perspective on what it means to sell and reach a mass market audience. Are there better phones technically that do more for less? Sure there are. Are they more work and less user-friendly? You betcha.
Jobs and company have done a great job at not only marketing to the masses, but also creating a product that the masses can understand. It's no easy task and for that, Apple should be applauded.
I'm not an Apple fanboy, just a Digg fan who is a bit tired of seeing super tech-savvy people on Digg knock the fact that Apple has accomplished what so many other companies have failed to do: make a great mass market product for the masses. But hey, it's the Internet, all people want to do is knock the top guy down. - wanderson, on 07/12/2008, -1/+39You gotta admit, they're pretty ***** good at selling phones. Seriously, even if you're not an iPhone fan, even if you're not an Apple fan, you have to say that Apple's done an incredible job at selling a product like this. The only other electronics manufacturer in the world that comes to mind that has sold a product in this manner is Nintendo. What I like about it, though, is the fact that other phone manufacturers are really going to have to step up. Verizon's paltry touch offerings are a complete joke, same with everything from Sprint, and the Windows Mobile touch facades from HTC have a long way to go, too. Apple's set a really, really high bar for competitors now, and hopefully they'll get their act together after this first round of *****-ups and get some seriously nice phones on the market.
- teiren474, on 07/11/2008, -1/+34.... and just think, if Rogers wouldn't be such a bitch the same thing could have happened in canada
- Cadenzah, on 07/12/2008, -35/+66The insane mass hysteria surrounding the iPhone does not stand in proportion to the quality of the product, even if it's a pretty good phone. It's the power of marketing, but few people are willing to admit it
yes, go ahead and digg me down - inactive, on 07/12/2008, -5/+22Have you ever used one?
- iMattK, on 07/12/2008, -7/+18I dugg you up, because what you are saying is the truth.
- geddon, on 07/12/2008, -3/+12The iPhone is made out of PHONE PEOPLE?!?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sp-VFBbjpE - PintSki, on 07/12/2008, -5/+13sold out because they had WAY too small stocks, no other reason!
- DannyDriffs, on 08/25/2008, -1/+9Apple goes for the limited initial release. Because papers won't talk about the server delays, they'll read, "New iPhone sells out in first hours."
- knute5, on 07/12/2008, -0/+8Straw man.
Nobody says the iPhone is the second coming, but Apple is probably one of the best companies in the world when it comes to giving people technology solutions that are clear, simple and effective. The mobile phone has been a cryptic mess of buttons and commands - an easy target for the iPhone. And now you're seeing other phone makers hustle to clean up their acts ... and their interfaces.
The phone is now becoming an actual usable computer platform. You may not see it now, but that's huge. - Kanaka, on 07/12/2008, -1/+7Did it sell out because A LOT of people REALLY wanted it or did it sell out because they pulled the old marketing trick whereby the manufacturer ships a small number of units initially just to drive hype.
- diabulos, on 07/12/2008, -1/+610 to 20 phones per store, as in some instances here in the UK...it was not because of 3 million people or whatever, it is a simple marketing trick, much of the superficial crap Apple is good for.
- johnpaul191, on 07/12/2008, -2/+7A lot of iPhone owners have never had a smartphone before. Maybe it took Apple to open people's eyes that smart phones made sense beyond enterprise rollout of blackberries. That's why last year we heard execs from the other smartphone companies saying they expect the iPhone to help bring awareness to smartphones in general more than taking away their customers. Blackberry has never been able to really promote their devices to individuals. They have sales reps that sell the whole system to a few suits that roll out (possibly) hundreds or thousands of units to a company.
Apple has always had that mindset though. Think about it... going back to Steve+Steve's roots in the homebrew computer club. They sought a way to bring these "business machines" into everyone's house. Kind of the same thing with a lot of the iApps (or garage band).... taking apps that had been pretty expensive in the past, and making a decent usable version for everyday people. Same goes for their best selling computers (iMacs, iBooks/macbooks). Even the whole iPod success was that they made the music player software work well long before they released an iPod... and then the iPod integrated seamlessly with the software. - Gutterpunk, on 07/12/2008, -0/+5None of your devices are belong to Android. Not now, not for a long time.
- sudowrestler, on 07/12/2008, -0/+4World domination without a single phone. Amazing.
- HappyScrappy, on 07/12/2008, -1/+5Folks, you cannot tell sales by looking at inventory.
If you don't know how many they had to sell, you can't tell if they sold out because of staggering demand or short supply. - ludolphus, on 07/12/2008, -4/+8"part to strong marketing from Apple's mobile partners ?", yeah right! In The Netherlands just 7000 iPhones were available and there are more than 100 shops that sold it, not that strange that they were out of stock within a few hours. Some shops just had 10 phones in stock...
- rodrigo74, on 07/12/2008, -0/+4Not sure why you're being dugg down by mere stating a fact, but anyway, the same happened in Norway, it's ridiculous.
- Mier, on 07/12/2008, -1/+5I'm writing this on my new iPhone and so far I'm satisfied. Even though the typing is a little slow.
- bigskank, on 07/12/2008, -0/+4I think you have your time zones backwards. 9am in London = 4am in New York. Hence, if London was sold out by noon, it would only be 7am in NY, one hour before the shops in NY opened to sell the iphone
http://www.worldtimezone.com/ - kinseyincanada, on 07/12/2008, -2/+5couldnt agree with you more, Apple seems to be the only company to think about the end user.
- Gutterpunk, on 07/12/2008, -2/+5You do a poor job at not defending Rogers or anything
- scotsboyuk, on 07/12/2008, -1/+4The Carphone Warehouse had very limited stock today across the UK, and if it hadn't sold out by the end of today then I imagine it will tomorrow. The number of iPhone left in CPW stores today was minuscule compared with how many they had for sale initially, and most areas did completely sell out.
- phoreal, on 07/12/2008, -0/+3I can confirm other users' comments that the amount of iphones in stock were WAY too small. Stores in Holland had about 10-20 of them. (And have to wait 1-2 weeks for a new batch) Yes, you can consider it strong marketing when marketing made sure that every store got this tiny amount. Any company can sell out on a product this way...
- imcquill, on 07/12/2008, -1/+4I think it largely sold out in Canada. I'm definitely not defending Rogers or anything, but $30 for 6GB data is not bad, and you can get ANY voice plan you want, but if you go under $30 for the voice, you have to pay an extra $50 for the iPhone initially. Not too bad.
- dysonlu, on 07/12/2008, -0/+2True as well.
It has always been the same story with Apple. Release a good product and the hype and marketing will make it a great must-have product. Apple and the media are feeding from each other much like stock analysts and the companies they cover do. - bindermichi, on 07/12/2008, -1/+3t-mobile offer 4 payment plans.
iPhone 8GB examples:
169,95€ + 24*29,00€ = 865,95€ with 500MB traffic/month and 50 minutes calltime incl.
59,95€ + 24*49,00€ = 1235,95€ with data flatrate and 100 minutes calltime incl.
1€ + 24*69,00€ = 1657,00€ with data flatrate and 200 minutes
or
1€ + 24*89,00€ = 2137,00€ with data flatrate and 1000 minutes
Now, that's one expensive phone in any case - moomincharlie, on 07/12/2008, -0/+2This story is innacurate. I live in the UK and there are still phones available from 3 different Carphone Warehouse stores that are near me, and this is the day after release!
- punkcat, on 07/12/2008, -2/+4doubt it, he didn't go through your post history.
- aristotle0dude, on 07/12/2008, -0/+2I tried but my dick would not fit any of the holes.
- MrDo, on 07/12/2008, -0/+2Yeah yeah yeah, company X sells out of their gadget Y on opening day. It is so predictable. Of course if they didn't the big news would be that the could not sell all their devices and it was not very popular. So I guess they have to.
- kday, on 07/13/2008, -0/+2I think the iPhone's marketing is more viral marketing than anything.
Viral marketing is the most effective form of marketing IMO. - inactive, on 07/12/2008, -0/+2It seems to be selling well in Japan too, which is a surprise for me:
http://www.kirainet.com/english/iphone-queue-in-to ...
http://www.dannychoo.com/adp/eng/1522/iPhone+Japan ... - Pokelicious, on 07/12/2008, -0/+2According to O2's (UK) website most O2 stores would have between a dozen and two dozen phones. No chance of getting one. I'll be lucky to get one before the end of the summer.
- wonderchemist, on 07/12/2008, -2/+4Since when did the quality of a product have anything to do with sales?
- MacParrot, on 07/12/2008, -5/+7yes but but but no 3.5g but but but ***** the iPhone and but but but copy/paste but but but Apple sucks but but but fanboys but but but...and so on
Apparently most resolute iPhone haters are nothing but "but" - greengarfield, on 07/13/2008, -0/+1The article only mentions Switzerland not Europe. There's no doubt most European countries will sell out but lets not get carried away yet.
- grassiness, on 07/13/2008, -0/+1Apples marketing would be nothing, if their products would suck.
Example: Microsofts push marketing and the Zune. And on the other side the x-box. - moomincharlie, on 07/12/2008, -0/+1Um. Didn't you read what I said?? lol
If the iPhone is NOT sold out in those 3 shops in the UK that I've been in, then how can it be "sold out" throughout Europe? - synagence, on 07/14/2008, -0/+1This is inaccurate anyway .... i went into an Apple store last night (in Meadowhall, Sheffield) about 4pm and they had still dozens of 16Gb iPhones...
- aristotle0dude, on 07/12/2008, -1/+2Show me a phone from a carrier with contracts that is not somehow branded, has branded software installed and features removed to disabled ringtones outside of the carrier's download service.
There is not such phone other than the iPhone or an even more expensive "unlocked" phone which would probably set you back 600-800 dollars at least.
A lot of people got tired of the same old phones which look good on paper but so often is crippled by your carrier before you get your hands on it. - aristotle0dude, on 07/12/2008, -0/+1What prices? The 199 CAD for the 8GB and 299 CAD for the 16GB prices? Do other phones work without service? No. Going with a contract is cheaper than going pay as you go on a smart phone and I think both Rogers and Fido allow you to upgrade your phone after a year.
I can only imagine how much data would cost pay as you go in "any" country. - thomleidner, on 07/13/2008, -0/+1And what would the price be for a comparable phone & plan? Say a Blackberry or Motorola Q? (brand new of course, just released model)?
I am truly asking. It just seems to me that everybody is saying how much more expensive the iPhone really is but I don't see it being more expensive than any other highly internet enabled phone, e-mail, data , GPS plan out there. - Nachoes, on 07/12/2008, -0/+1I tried to get one: The first store only had already sold all 3 units, the second one got 10 (all were pre-orders) and the last one I've checked had already sold all of their 5 units.
No wonder they sold out. - geddon, on 07/13/2008, -0/+1Give it up! You're only prolonging the pain.
- P5ycHo, on 07/13/2008, -0/+1Sigh. It's not the marketing. It's the UI experience.
- Gutterpunk, on 07/12/2008, -2/+3So which part of iPhones being sold out is innacurate?
- thomleidner, on 07/13/2008, -0/+1The Apple stores had plenty.
- Gutterpunk, on 07/12/2008, -0/+1They did sell out. Early reports show that most store had very few units, and even less 16gb one (ie : what the people who camped the stores wanted)
You didn't hear about the sales because Rogers if probably keeping thing under wrap (so that the press don't ask why even flasgship stores got 20 phones or less) but yeah, they sold the stock that they had. -
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