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- eliot2000, on 10/21/2007, -2/+125I prefer: Engadget! iPod? Touch review, Why? It's not the best. iPod!
- davidwasman, on 10/13/2007, -26/+117iPod 5th gen is released, and they bitch about it not being widescreen/wifi-enabled.
iPod touch released and they bitch ABOUT the widescreen and wifi.
Are you people ever happy? Stop whining. - DonCarcharo, on 10/13/2007, -9/+83If the iPhone didn't exist, the Touch would really be an interesting product. As it stands, it's just a poorly executed copy of something better.
- DaBrainiac, on 10/10/2007, -15/+64How about: Engadget iPod Touch Review: Why It's Not the Best iPod
- LowROI, on 10/10/2007, -5/+42Works on commission? No. Money down!
- judicar, on 10/10/2007, -0/+22They should have compared it to all those other wifi-enabled, widescreen video playback, flash-based music players... oh wait..
- inactive, on 10/13/2007, -1/+23Unlocked iPhone > iPod Touch
- superkendall, on 10/13/2007, -1/+22They left out the part that rally makes the iPhone a better iPod - the clicker on the headbuds, that lets you pause or skip songs with a pres or double-press of the button. No need to even reach for the thing in your pocket, for some reason they appear to have left those more advanced headphones off the Touch.
There's also an adaptor for other headphones that adds the button so you can use it with any headphones, not just the earbuds included.
The bit about the speaker was a good point, it seems like you would never use a small tinny speaker but it is nice for sharing short videos. - Takran, on 10/10/2007, -9/+30Hey, let's all go to Engadget and digg every article there! Woohoo!
- PocketWatch, on 10/13/2007, -9/+28Didn't Jobs say the iPhone is the best iPod they've ever built? And seeing as the Touch is cheaper and has less features, I thought this was rather obvious.
- thedragon4453, on 10/13/2007, -4/+22I know this is slightly of topic, but does anyone else hate the new classic/nano interface? I tried it out at a local shop, and it was slower than *****. Am I the only one that could give a ***** about the album cover?
- macslut, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19What that up in the road, a head?
- bigbadgoat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14What about me here in Canada? What should I think of it, if the iPhone is not an option?
- daldredge, on 10/10/2007, -3/+16Now that is a mature adult like response.
- MattM462, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11No... Use correct grammar in a story title? Now why would we do that?
- miniboss, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10If it's free you can tell people to shove it and stop whining. If you're paying hard earned cash then as CONSUMERS we're supposed to evaluate a product and determine whether it is worth the money. Pretending it's acceptable to intentionally hobble a perfectly good device in order to feed the sales of another product is just plain silly.
If we're paying for it then why shouldn't we have expectations? And considering the gripes going around, expecting things like volume buttons isn't "whining". It is simply pointing out a major flaw that only people who've used the thing for an extended amount of time can understand. - dougbarrett, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9I don't think it is necissarily fair to compare an MP3 player to a cell phone. Sure, the iPhone and iPod Touch are extremely similar, but they wouldn't be selling both at two extreme price differences if they didn't have some extreme internal/external differences.
So how about next time when you are going to review an MP3 player such as the iPod Touch, review it to something like, oh I don't know... the Zune, or the new Creative Zen. - DAaaMan64, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Will you come over here and help Jack off a horse?
Will you come over here and help jack off a horse? - course6, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10I see what you did there....
Actually, they *did*. It's called the iPhone. - deadbaby, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Apple is being smart to produce different types of iPods for different consumers. There is no single device that will be perfect to everyone. I see a lot of people bitching that the iPod Touch doesn't have a hard drive but they fail to realize the physical size increase would make the product completely unappealing to most consumers. There are other companies out there who, to compete with Apple's dominance, will produce some of these niche products. You should choose those over an iPod if they fit your needs. Apple isn't going to cry about losing out on 2% of the sales. (and yes, they have a whole team of people who study the market data -- they know what sells and what doesn't)
- sykotic, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10"lesser product" yeah... more storage, same price, no crappy AT&T
- GCarden, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Spelling Nazi to Grammar Nazi: "Nazi" has no letter "T".
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -8/+15Go ***** off
- Hochler, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9You should be pissed that Apple is giving you a lesser product, instead of getting the iPhone in your area. :P
- znicket, on 10/13/2007, -0/+6,,, and thicker than the bible.
- RevJonathan, on 10/13/2007, -0/+6I had and returned a classic. I'm not as excited by coverflow as everyone seems to be. Got an iPhone and unlocked it instead. Much better.
- Luigi239, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8If you look at the iPod touch for what it is, a PMP, its a very nice product. Music, videos, and photos all sound great, and are the main features of the device. Stop treating it like it's a PDA. I don't know of any PMP that has Google Maps on it, or a mail program.
- course6, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6From what I've heard (google nano firmware update), a new firmware update fixes that, but when I went to the apple stores, they hadn't bothered to update the firmware (they should though, b/c it *is* slow as *****).
- RevJonathan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Got and unlocked mine yesterday. Never looked back to my Blackberry Pearl.
- darny, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I'm all about having as much functionality in as little pocketroom as possible. I traded my 60GB video for a 16GB touch. Why? It's smaller and it does far more than my 60GB and my cellphone. Lack of space? Please. I listen to at most about 100 songs per day, which amounts to.....oh....a few hundred MB. I can probably go about a week, maybe two without synching (and updating my revolving smart playlists) AND NEVER HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE SAME SONG TWICE!!
Why didn't I get an iPhone? Well for starters, AT+T in ny sucks. I'm on Verizon family plan. I'm not about to break a cellphone contract just to change a media player. Also, i don't want all my eggs in one basket. What if I find myself listening to LOTS of music one day and suddenly have to make a ton of phone calls?
I never needed 60GB on me at all times, and now I can (wear tighter jeans, I guess, and) carry the web in my pocket to use in any of the one gazillion free wifi hotspots in NYC. My cellphone can't do that (for free). - lickmygiggle, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5When I was in the Apple store, deciding whether to buy the iPod Touch or the iPhone, I realized that I would LOVE to have the iPhone, just without the phone. I know the iPhone is hacked, and you can (for now) use all the features without activating, but I just don't want to fuss with hacks, and then Apple plugging the holes, and then waiting for more hacks to come. For me I'll take my Touch until i can be assured I dont need an AT&T contract just to use the damn thing.
- miniboss, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Exactly. It would be nice if we could evaluate the iPod as a standalone product but considering how it is based 100% off the iPhone then you have to compare them. And the result of those comparisons show that this is a device that could have been better if Apple didn't strap it down and saw its legs off.
- Morphinity, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Natzi? Get the ***** out.
- Invalice, on 10/10/2007, -5/+9can the iPhone count as an ipod?
- Hochler, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4@sykotic: It was a joke, hence ":P". They both have their pros & cons.
- tony.pitale, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I wouldn't buy it if it had tinny speakers that made the device thicker and less elegant.
- Almadiel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3My one and only complaint about the ipod touch after a week of ownership is the lack of external volume control. Would have been wonderful if you could adjust the volume without unlocking by making the familiar circular motions on the screen with your finger, for instance (hint hint to apple for firmware update). Otherwise, having twice the capacity for the same price compared to the iphone is great. Everything missing from the iPhone is on my Treo, which does things like email and calendar much better anyway (not to mention being better at making calls and letting me use verizon). Taking an alternate perspective, the iPhone is just an overly bloated version of the iTouch.
- dmkemick, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3The review could have been summed up pretty quickly with something like "it's good, just not as good as the iPhone." I was personally excited for the Touch because I wanted a phone-less iPhone, but some of the little things have kept me from buying one. First off is the storage, it's hard to plunk down $400 for 16 gigs. Then the screen issues that were reported. Finally the price drop the iPhone received makes me stop and think "why not wait?"
Hopefully they fix some of the minor issues and add some things (I'd really like a volume rocker), but what I'm really waiting for is higher capacities at cheaper prices. If they had a 30 gig model at $350 I'd snatch one without thinking about it. - superkendall, on 10/13/2007, -1/+4Varies by region, I got zero signal at the office with a number of T-Mobile phones, and have four bars with AT&T - and EDGE reception has been very good, even on trips into the mountains (Colorado, along major highway corridors of course).
- ElbridgeGerry, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3The reply button is your friend.
- RevJonathan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Its the same interface, the firmware just sped it up a little bit.
- darny, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3OK, my touch is pretty much filled to capacity:
2,032 songs, 6.3 days, 12.56GB (@ 100 songs listened to me / day that's uhhh...20 days before I run out of something new to hear)
~1.4 GB of movies (ummm...relatively low transfer quality, ummm...poor lighting, shaky camera work, bad acting.....) which amounts to about 3 hours of run time
~60 of my best photos to show off, 14 MB.
I'd say i'm pretty well covered. - glimp7, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3If consumers want wifi and a wide screen, Apple will make absolutely sure that it happens. If the they complain about a product and the features that they asked for... well, idk.
- nealyng, on 10/13/2007, -0/+3Yeah, i went to the apple store today, and the cover flow on the classic is slow as hell. It takes several seconds for any album covers to show up, and the interface is slow overall. Not impressed at all.
- jeffchuck, on 10/13/2007, -1/+4There really isn't an "extreme price difference." The 16 GB iPod Touch is the same price as the 8 GB iPhone.
- Kevinb1577, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
- pintomp3, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4i've never understood why more companies didn't use the morse code clickers. i've had panasonic portable tape and cd players that had it and it was the best feature. with one button i could play/pause, rew/fwd, radio power/change preset, etc.
- danasghar, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3i dont know why anyone use the headphones that come with the products....they flat out suck.
- miniboss, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I didn't think the lack of physical volume buttons would be a big deal but after a week of use I'm amazed at how often I need to dig this thing out and do a quick volume adjustment. So while most complaints are things you can live without, the choice to remove volume buttons is a real tough one to accept.
BTW, yes I know doubleclicking the home button brings up a mini menu but that is more a shortcut than an actual solution. - dougbarrett, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2It seems extreme to me, on account that one offers double the amount of storage at the same price.
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