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- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -6/+76"Apple used to offer customers a choice between glossy and matte screens on previous white iMacs. When I bought one of the first-generation Intel iMacs, I chose the matte screen."
This guy clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. Apple has never offered this option on its iMac line of computers and I am surprised that someone from such a large organisation would make up this nonsense. MacBook Pro had this option (and still does) but iMac has never. - LanceUppercut, on 10/10/2007, -5/+62It is great for me. There are no windows in my mom's basement so I don't have to worry about glare. I do sometimes see the reflection of my toilet paper roll on the screen but that is neither here nor there. I do have to close the door when they have their bridge tournaments otherwise the glare might affect my sensitive eyes.
- vault, on 10/10/2007, -14/+58It's fine for the iMac's target audience.
- andrew522, on 10/10/2007, -10/+50I like a bit of gloss on my screen... I find shiny things more fascinating.
- LogitechG15, on 10/10/2007, -3/+27This man speaks for half of the Digg population.
- dukeeeey, on 10/19/2007, -19/+43dont like glossy
- euphemizeme, on 10/10/2007, -1/+24I believe every thing you said to be fact.
- euphemizeme, on 10/19/2007, -7/+26Here's an idea for Apple: Let consumers have the option of glossy or matte.
It's not rocket surgery. - borninda818, on 10/10/2007, -5/+21that's pretty creative...i digg u down.
- MiddleOfNowhere, on 10/10/2007, -2/+17I am about to return to the Mac Universe after ten years in Windows Land (don’t ask; thank you).
When I saw the ads and Quicktime movies for the new iMacs, I nearly fainted. Hell YES. Beautiful, shiny machine. Must. Have. Credit Card unlocked, fire at will.
OK. I have now been to several stores here in Berlin, tiptoeing around those machines like a cat around a bowl of warm milk, typing on the sexy new keyboard, watching Quicktime movies, launching half a dozen apps, talking to sales guys and other customers.
And everyone says the same.
Great Mac.
Awful screen.
I *want* to buy a new Mac. I want to give Steve my money. I want to say I am sorry for leaving all those years ago. I love the aluminum, iLife/iWork 08, the keyboard, the whole wonderful *Gestalt* of it.
But I cannot bring myself to like this travesty of a screen. It’s a ***** mirror.
I spend a lot of my waking life at the computer. But I’m not a basement nerd. The money I’m earning allows me to have a really nice apartment looking over the city. There’s a lot of light in here; white walls, huge windows. Darkening the whole place just to enjoy what Steve has deemed the right screen for us mere iMortals would be, well, perverse.
So I guess ... no iMac for me. - omarciddo, on 10/10/2007, -5/+20I could never take glossy because I hate glare more than anything else in the world. A glossy screen is instantly banished to the darkest part of my house because anything bright going on in the reflection is extremely distracting.
- ezkiel, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15I can definitively say that glossy trumps all.
One may wonder how I get away with making such a large blanket statement. Allow me to explain:
I was up late working on a super important assignment. Luckily I am of considerable intelligence and knew to purchase a glossy iMac. As a was working away on the project I noticed some movement in the reflection on my monitor. I assumed I was just really tired and seeing things. But again I saw some movement. At this point I realized that my grave enemy, 'The Ninja' had infiltrated my base. I kept working away as to not arouse suspicion on the ninjas part. I waited 'till he crept up behind me, just seconds before he intended to snap my neck, then reached for my holster and fired my pocket canon and reveled in my pirate glory with a swig o' rum. Argggg.... - newbill123, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15The article noted:
“Apple is trying to discourage iMac sales by pros. With the move to Intel [processors], Apple lost a lot of speed and performance issues between the desktop and iMac. The iMac did almost everything. I mean, why isn’t that 24-inch [iMac] a layout machine? It is. So the only way to discourage a designer is to put a shiny screen on it,” Lang suggested."
But if that were the case, the easier option for Apple would have been to get rid of the external monitor port or make it "mirroring only" as it was in the past. Most home users don't even know the external display support is there, and all the designers I know are addicted to using a dual monitor setup. Some invest huge sums of money in a color calibrated CRT monitor. The built-in iMac display is only useful as the place for their non-work related windows (e.g. palettes, porn, & dvd viewing). Indeed if it were just a question of glossy or matte, it's the pro designers who are far more likely to know about the light shields and films you can get to eliminate glare on a glossy screen.
It's just a sales thing. Glossy screens seem sexier compared to matte ones. And Apple wants their iMacs to appear sexy. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13I actually hate Glossy screens, I wish I could get my MacBook in matte
- bigbird, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14Speaking from a color critical business(printing) I must say that we do not trust what is on any screen no matter how it is color calibrated. The only thing we trust is what we see once we make the mock up off of our color calibrated lasers(they are supposed to have the same color as the press) Then interpreting what is on the paper and how to correct it on screen. I use a macbook pro with a glossy screen hooked up to a 23 acd. I do not trust either for color, and can not really, as they are RGB and the press is CMYK.
- fxspec06, on 10/19/2007, -10/+22wtf does him liking something shiny have ANYTHING to do with pot? that came out of nowhere and wasn't funny. you get 'douche of the day' award
- titlesaysitall, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14I used an iMac first hand and the combination of glass plus a glossy LCD was a horrible decision, I could see more of what was going on behind me than in front of me but that might've been due to the bright lights in the Apple Store. Glass on my iPhone is awesome, Glossy LCDs on the MacBooks rock, but together it's horrible, waaaaay too much reflection.
- wyrdness, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12*****. I'm in the target market for an iMac, in fact I own one, plus a powerbook and a mac mini. I took a look at the new iMacs in the Applestore and really didn't like the glare on the new screens. I'd far rather have the anti-glare coating that previous iMacs have.
- omarciddo, on 10/10/2007, -4/+14I want to digg you up for your first sentence. I want to bury you for trying too hard with the second sentence. I don't know wtf to do. *head explodes*
- kelly, on 10/19/2007, -3/+12Its not brain surgery...
Its not rocket science...
He was being funny you dummies - chukd, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Please read this Steve. Glossy SUCKS! You push your all the photo editing stuff and then you give a glossy screen that doesn't show real color. Get rid of it!
- edstate, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Yup. So when he "...pointed this out to the product marketing team at the iMac launch event in Cupertino..." no wonder they thought he was nutz.
- Syvl, on 10/19/2007, -6/+13WTF IS ROCKET SURGERY?
- andrew522, on 10/19/2007, -1/+7apparently, 'rocket surgery' is what happens when 'brain surgery' and 'rocket science' forgot to use a condom.
- NnyDarko, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Who the heck is Matt Screens? /sarcasm
- deadnoob, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8im outside often.. glossy is no good (laptop)
and my iMac is an old one with a matte and i like it better than the glossy - kelly, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10why is that funny?
The ***iMac*** has a target audience of general, everyday consumers... (non professionals). Apple's other Macs... (save for the mini) is targeted at the professional... which utilizes screens that are matte. - anti_hax0r, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6DVDA is sweet - Dual Vaginal Dual Anal
- omarciddo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Good business sense? You must be joking. Why not make the pro lineup matte to match? Or better yet, why not give the consumer a choice? Consumers do care, believe it or not.
- nmap, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10Colours look nicer on a gloss screen, sharper and brighter. Just don't sit with your monitor towards a window.
- shikkaba, on 10/19/2007, -0/+5I don't understand. What's so funny?
- crazybrit, on 10/19/2007, -4/+9Mine looks fine. People seem to be forgetting that matte screens are also hard to see if you put them right in front of a ***** window.
- kbro, on 10/19/2007, -2/+7I am using my new glossy 20" iMac right now, and glare is simply not an issue. It is 5:34pm, and lots of light is around, including a window to my back right. The screen is just so bright and brilliant that it washes out any possible glare. I really have to question anyone who says glare is a problem -- perhaps they haven't actually tried one.
Now, when it turn it off or put it to sleep, there is a lot of glare. But, of course, at that point I am not using it. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10Looking at the 24 incher right now, loving it and cant see a reflection of any of the 6 overhead lights in here
- carpespasm, on 10/10/2007, -6/+10kind of a loaded question huh?
- theonlywizdum, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5maybe his house? Not everyone lives in their parents basement.
- Rickler, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Congrats you are the equivalent of a fly heading toward a bright blue light. Glossy has no function then to attract people who like ohhh shinny!
- Wilddigi, on 10/10/2007, -6/+10Most people don't buy Macs for the hardware, they buy it for the OSX which is 100x better than what's that crap you call Windows
- MacParrot, on 10/19/2007, -0/+4Well, according to the latest digg poll, it's datdamonfoo and Wilddigi that actually suck...who would have guessed that outcome?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Haha. It's hard work to keep defending Vista, isn't it?
- streetstealth, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4I work in print design and we don't even calibrate our monitors beyond the basic calibration that comes with MacOS. We rely completely on Pantone books and what you print house guys send us back as composite proofs. :)
- apotropaic, on 10/10/2007, -8/+11Well Apple knows best what you want, right? right?!?
- ksgant, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3According to that article, Apple has always had the option on the iMac of choosing glossy or matte.
When I got mine in January, there was no such option. I only saw that option on the Macbooks. - ConfusedONE, on 10/10/2007, -8/+11Nice quick edit too to hide that you weren't talking about Aaron Russo. Good Job.
(Don't believe me, look at his digging record) - oyourmom, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Nothin wrong with it though =D
- shikkaba, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3While I agree that the computers are overpriced, that would be the only thing you've said that I agree with.
Macs are just like any other computer. To insult a Mac is to insult the computer in general. Anything you can do on a PC can be done on a Mac.
Just because you do not like it does not mean it's the worst piece of technology ever. - alansky, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4People who like the iMac's high-gloss screen should buy one. In every other respect, it is a great computer. But anyone with the slightest sensitivity to shiny reflections will not be happy with this computer unless it is used exclusively in a dark or very dimly-lit room. In normal room light, the reflections can be extreme and very distracting. This is a fact.
- shikkaba, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Whoah. 60 years? So they had computer monitors since the 50's? Or are you talking televisions?
- ncaauwe, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Why? I'm just simply expressing the fact that I don't have tons of money to throw around at multiple Mac systems, and that my estimate is that they'll have released the second or third generation of the ALUMINUM iMacs by the time I DO have $1.5-2K lying around. Each redesign is considered a new line of iMacs, and the "generation number" starts over. This is the First Gen Aluminum iMac.
- eliasg, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Set one up last night, used it for four hours, screen is beautiful. All depends on your lighting and what not. For mobile use I don't like glossy too much.
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