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- serif69, on 04/14/2009, -2/+21Erica Sadun has slowly become one of my least favorite authors thanks to fluff pieces like this. This article has no information in it.
- akuzemchak, on 04/14/2009, -1/+12that's great and all, but why am i still without push for gmail??? come on!
- CarlyLyon, on 04/12/2009, -2/+13I am so glad they are finally allowing push for applications. SMS notifications were totally lame and this will make a huge difference in the satisfaction of customers when using their applications. Thank you apple!
- MedaFighterX, on 04/14/2009, -0/+8Awesome. Realtime IM apps here we come!
- Schwa142, on 04/14/2009, -0/+8battery life should be fine... especially compared to running apps in the background like so many folks wanted. THAT would be the batt killer.
- ttntyler, on 04/14/2009, -0/+6Umm.. The push notification system isn't limited to popup notifications, it also allows badges
- Philbert, on 04/14/2009, -0/+6Yes, text, a badge number, and/or a sound. Like it says in the article.
- chochazel, on 04/14/2009, -0/+5This is push notifications for applications as an alternative to constant background processes which you confused with push email which the iphone's also had for at least 8 months. Geddit?
- MacHarborGuy, on 04/14/2009, -0/+5i am just happy they have MMS in this update. It was stupid that it was missing. Most people may thing "oh, just use email", but that doesn't help me when most of my friends have non-iPhones and MMS all the time. The current AT&T/iPhone round-about way of doing MMS via SMS is lame as hell.
- fabio1, on 04/14/2009, -1/+5data can also be exchanged via 3g, edge and gprs.
- IcyStorm, on 04/14/2009, -0/+4</sarcasm>
- Bertitude, on 04/14/2009, -2/+6iPhone has users since launch. Welcome to....f**k it. No one cares that Android has push.
- xsecretfiles, on 04/14/2009, -2/+5Yes!!! I will finally be able listen to Pandora while on AIM while downloading from the itunes store while driving...
- digitalpencil, on 04/14/2009, -1/+4bah! i clicked that link thinking you were being overly critical with your light-hearted jab but *****..
- DelMonte, on 04/15/2009, -0/+3The iPhone had push email since the beginning.
But the Push Notification mechanism in iPhone 3.0 is different, it's a system-wide service that can be used by applications for many other purposes than email.
And as far as I know, no other mobile OS has a similar system-wide service for push notifications. - Philbert, on 04/14/2009, -0/+2Might be useful for AIM. I'd love it for email but I doubt my web host is going to do anything like this, after I only pay them $20 a year for my site and email.
- dougbarrett, on 04/14/2009, -0/+2I must have overlooked that.
- utnow, on 04/14/2009, -0/+2You realize that you're comparing an end-user experience to a developer experience right?
The documentation is something that will only ever be encountered by a developer who is trying to build this functionality into their own apps. - Tenoq, on 04/15/2009, -1/+3Your friends don't know how to type your e-mail address into the recipient field instead of your phone number?
- MacHarborGuy, on 04/14/2009, -0/+2@DarkLaughingMan: or the app developers could implement up to the second saving of the app's state like Fieldrunners. If a Tower Defense game with masses of action on screen and off can handle state saving with no noticeable lag, most apps should be able to as well.
- sybersnake, on 04/15/2009, -0/+1push started working for me for my MobileMe account yesterday. the problem is tho that your phone just makes a noise and vibrates. when you hit a button to light up the screen there is no notification of what happened. I assume they've fixed this in 3.0
- mrBitch, on 04/15/2009, -0/+1RE: "The iPhone had push email since the beginning.
But the Push Notification mechanism in iPhone 3.0 is different, it's a system-wide service that can be used by applications for many other purposes than email."
Spot on, and well said. - cesig, on 04/14/2009, -2/+2Real question: How is this functionally different from what Android does now?
- blackjack75, on 04/14/2009, -2/+2Well, for one android uses Gmail accounts and messaging seems pretty simple to setup. This one? Just go read the available documentation then come back here and comment... It's not exactly a quick setup as of today. I'll definitely wait until they have a simple way to set the thing up on one's server.
- happajay, on 04/17/2009, -0/+0Just jailbreak. Super easy. Been driving listening to Pandora with backgrounder and doing whatever with my phone....except watch the road. If you jailbreak your phone, you'll have best of both worlds....push notifications and background applications.
- blossom696, on 04/15/2009, -0/+0..... and the iPod Touch while on Wifi? that would be AWESOME. lol
- Baryn, on 04/14/2009, -2/+2Of course it would... that's what Apple's official statement is... you dumbass.
@MacHarborGuy: That drains more battery life than letting the app simply lay dormant in the background! - Erfus, on 04/14/2009, -4/+3I've seen better content from SEO spam sites. What inane babble about SMS and email alerts.
- DarkLaughingMan, on 04/14/2009, -1/+1So now instead of just running two apps (which may drain a little more battery life but might prove more convient), whenever you want to chat on the iPhone (from say browsing the web or whatever process that won't allow you to chat in the background). Pause/suspend or end game. Go to chat, respond. Reopen whatever you were doing?
- robdiggity, on 04/14/2009, -3/+2Yes thanks, the point is it makes far less since to have an IP based push solution running on top of the carrier's interface:
1. IPv4 addresses at the carrier are in short supply to begin with, let alone piling on with a pseudo always-on usage
2. If you're always-on, DDTM conditions could produce unexpected results with inbound calls
3. Mobile IP time-outs almost guarantee you'll pick up a new address when you re-establish, complicating presence management
4. If you're going to use the carrier interface after all, why not just register to receive and process an SMS? - StenisCool, on 04/13/2009, -4/+3Finally, thanks apple ^^ Agreed
- robdiggity, on 04/14/2009, -3/+2So data has to be active all the time for this to work? So this essentially is meant to be a wifi only alternative to SMS then?
- jeffclark, on 04/15/2009, -2/+1Android?
- slickwatson, on 04/14/2009, -4/+2old news is old... that email went out last week
- Baryn, on 04/14/2009, -5/+3Clearly it's sarcasm, because you can't do all those things at once on an iPhone.
Man, iPhone OS sucks... - Shiftyeyedgoat, on 04/14/2009, -4/+1Mmm, real-time updated goodness. Hello productivity, good bye battery life.
- Baryn, on 04/14/2009, -7/+3Woo, age-old technology, coming to an overrated piece of shiet!
- Baryn, on 04/14/2009, -7/+2Thank you Apple, for a gift I have had for :checks: 5 years now.
iPhone OS sucks... - dougbarrett, on 04/14/2009, -8/+1I don't see why the push notification has to really notify the user with a pop up message...too bad the iphone can't do little status update icons like blackberrys can. That way a push notification can come to the iPhone and pop up a little icon with a number next to it with the amount of notifications available for that application. This would primarily be used for with IM applications. I could see notifications as a pop up window being important if its something that needs to be addressed at that moment, such as someone trying to call you on Skype.
- wiachy, on 04/14/2009, -12/+3hey ifanboyfags.
android has push and has had it since launch. welcome to 8 months ago.
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