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- hater2win, on 10/10/2007, -49/+282Ok, honestly. Steve Jobs walks over to Joe Graphics Artists desk and tells him to make the graphic less transparent. Joe Graphics Artist opens up the file in photoshop and adjusts the opacity. Done...
WHY THE ***** IS THIS NEWS!? - Kakcoo, on 10/10/2007, -7/+92Looks like it blurs the background. It IS a tweak for the better.
- ChrisRX, on 10/10/2007, -3/+68Actually I think transparent panels have been in gnome and kde way longer than they've been in vista.
- fuzzmeister, on 10/10/2007, -9/+72The somewhat remarkable part is that it was actually done, meaning that the developers are listening to the users. Still, not that exciting... at all.
- itseffinkasey, on 10/10/2007, -23/+80I know I'm going to be dug way down for this, but in Vista you can choose how transparent you want the bars AND what color you want them also...
- CraigCarlyle, on 10/10/2007, -11/+67It's news because many people, including myself, were complaining about the ugly menu bar.
It's good to see they changed it. - Noctem, on 10/10/2007, -11/+65Whoa, sweet. It's almost like looking through a blurry pane of glass ... Where the heck have I seen that before?
- SuperSneaks, on 10/10/2007, -17/+69I'm an Apple fan but honestly who gives a ***** about this.
- HunterTV, on 10/10/2007, -10/+56Adjusted title: Transparent Menu Bar Changed from Something Useless to Slightly Less Pointless
- alanrice38181, on 10/10/2007, -1/+44No its not just the transparency. The image is blurred under the menubar now too. Very easy to spot.
- armbo, on 10/10/2007, -3/+38and in linux i can specify how transparent, what color or pattern or static image to decorate the bar with, specify a shadowy reflection pattern if any, where the bars are, how many i want, whether or not i want it transparent...
- lgc90, on 10/10/2007, -0/+30I'm hoping for a simple slider in system preferences to set the transparency to my liking and depending on the desktop image.
- TremorX, on 10/10/2007, -3/+32You mean you can't just adjust the opacity? I figured you could.
- Stirk, on 10/10/2007, -5/+30Apple experimented with transparency in earlier versions of OS X. Plus, it already has a transparent dock.
That said, I don't think it's really possible to "steal" transparency, it's been around for a while. - Me1000, on 10/10/2007, -3/+28Why dont you kill yourself anyway?
- DROWE859, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17You can remember burning/dodging this way:
"Burning toast makes it darker."
Unfortunately, I don't have anything for dodge but it's that opposite, ;P. - Me1000, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17blogspot = google
google ≠ go down! - rjoseph, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17Indeed, it appears they actually did three separate things: filliped the gradient to make it appear coming "out" of the screen, rather than into it; blurred the background; and took away the dodging/burning (I never know which is which). A graphic artist would be better at explaining it all I'm sure, as this is definitely outside my field of knowledge.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+18If you're an emo and you dodge the sun, your skin stays lighter?
- monkeyrun, on 10/10/2007, -3/+18transparancy has been in Mac OS X RC1 ever since 1999.
- darkfate, on 10/10/2007, -3/+16Smart move by Apple. They would have lost their entire goth fan base using black backgrounds if they didn't realize this!
- Greywhind, on 10/10/2007, -4/+17Actually, that's all done by extremely accessible GUI.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -6/+17Doesn't Vista's Aero interface do this? And Beryl (and I assume compiz fusion)?
- Me1000, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Agreed then I could make it opaque!
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13Is that before or after you install the EVIL RESTRICTED DRIVERS THAT HAVE NO SUPPORT AND MIGHT KILL YOUR DOG and are you really, really sure you want to do this Dave?
- HonestAbe, on 10/10/2007, -5/+16It also looks like it blurs the background to keep things readable.
- Reno582, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Thats not Photoshop, thats the C language!!!
- nbulp, on 10/10/2007, -10/+20Yepp. You can find the available features of the bar and instructions for how to do all this in the 5319 page long documentation file.
- AronT, on 10/10/2007, -14/+23I'm sorry, but you are a loser if you believe Apple is copying Microsoft for using transparency as a UI element... Seriously, quit whining; Microsoft didn't invent transparency.
- xike, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10How could you possibly consider that "the task bar"?
- Elranzer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8In Mac OS X, you can choose between Blue and Graphite.
- Scarfy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11Did anyone say that they didn't?
Not everything is a contest. - goblindegook, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8What for? The blog is hosted by Google and the images are over at flickr, it's not like they can't handle the traffic.
- Reno582, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Refraction you say? on a GPU accelerated GUI? Insane!
- betterth, on 10/10/2007, -19/+27IE, now it looks identical to Vista. Now, if you can change transparency amounts and choose any color (instead of just a white transparency) as well as allow you to disable the transparency, this feature will be on par with what Vista has already released.
I say this, but since I've alluded that Windows released a feature before Apple, I know I'll be dugg down into oblivion... - firstpost, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Except for Carl Friedrich Gauss, of course
- TheNik, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Menubar. Sorry, I will make sure to send you my comments for you to proofread before I submit them.
- Elranzer, on 10/10/2007, -6/+13Back when Microsoft implemented these effects in Vista, people cried "WAAAA, they copied Apple and OS X!" Now when Apple puts these effects in, the same people cry "Well, nobody REALLY invented transparency." Transparancy has existed in Mac since the first iMacs, back in the hardware design, when they were only running OS 9, and into the early builds of OS X. But the frosty glass style is clearly a Vista thing.
People claim that Microsoft copied OS X with Vista, but honestly Leopard is starting to look like Vista with the frosty-glass style transparency and focus on photography wallpapers. - solonGFX, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9That is what the green thumb is for...
- justinp, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8At what point does having the same feature fail to be stealing? Jesus Christ it's a ***** Gaussian blur... That is NOBODY'S innovation.
- carbonfree314, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10Actually, it is quite hard for most professional graphic artists to code out a blurring routine, because they aren't programmers.
- Me1000, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10Why dont you block the apple section?
or you could kill yourself, - SATURN, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7I'll sell you a PowerBook for a dollar.
- geepee, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10Hey look! Another asstard that doesn't understand how Digg works!
- shawnz, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9like what?
- shawnz, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/00/Windows98.png
see the bar to the right? that's an active desktop item. they were html based, and could be created from any html file, local or remote. active desktop even allowed you to set your wallpaper to an html page. active desktop was introduced in 1997 -- four years before OS X was released. - justinp, on 10/10/2007, -7/+12Still, you can't get rid of that silly 1px blue highlight on the edge of the window. *shakes head*
- badjoke, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Go to your preferences and turn off the apple section...
- Elranzer, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8You're hoping for customization in OS X? You'll be lucky if you can still switch the color scheme from Blue to Graphite (your only two choices).
- badjoke, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6I highly doubt this is all they worked on for "a few months."
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