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- gsadamb, on 10/12/2007, -17/+300Why should that matter? If Cisco legally owns the iPhone name, there's no compelling reason that Apple can just use it without permission.
- cliffzdude, on 10/12/2007, -39/+237"Apple needs to tell Cisco to stfu and die."
Fanboy? - topherwheeler, on 10/12/2007, -60/+240The thing about it is - whether you like it or not - when you say iPhone, you're way more likely to be talking Apple than Cisco.
- leopardhunter, on 02/18/2009, -7/+146Of course, Cisco currently has a product in the marketplace called "iPhone" -- that heavily discussed VOIP phone.
http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Promotion_C1&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1165633244027&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper
Apple does not have a product currently in the marketplace called "iPhone." - Avantime, on 10/12/2007, -17/+150My 5 year old BMW has something called 'iDrive' and it is running Windows CE.
Apple doesn't own everything, you know. - bSimms, on 10/12/2007, -19/+125I doubt this will be a huge deal. Apple will probably just pay them off outside of court and it will be fine.
- combatchuck, on 10/12/2007, -28/+121Unfortunately, in the US, a company can trademark a word. The problem in this case is that the trademark wouldn't exist without Apple's trademark iName scheme. This could actually go either way. Personally, I think "iPhone" is a stupid name anyway.
- dark1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+95@combatchuck
That't not true. The iPhone name has been around long before Apple sold any iMac or Ipod. I believe it was trademarked circa 1996. Cisco acquired the iPhone name in 2000 from infoGear - a company that Cisco acquired. - netjd, on 10/12/2007, -18/+100@SniperX
You must be a Apple fanboy to be this ignorant. Apple tell Cisco to STFU? Laughable. - tylercrowley, on 10/12/2007, -23/+89My inside sources at http://bigbignews.net tell me that Apple is changing the name now to iPWN3D.
- SniperX, on 10/12/2007, -42/+106Apparently the majority of digg users now love patent and trademark squatting
and hate Apple.
I feel like I've entered the Twilight Zune. - elsenormalo, on 10/12/2007, -13/+72I can't believe we moved from iPhone rumors to iPhone name trashing.
- gsadamb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+46I'm pretty sure you can't trademark wildcards. :P
- blaze03, on 10/12/2007, -39/+81Ironic, Apple sued over copyright infringement.
- SniperX, on 10/12/2007, -8/+50Yeah, because you know, the Apple iPhone has been on the market for so long and all..
- dkm201, on 10/12/2007, -10/+48"Since it looks like a smart phone running some sort of OS X looking interface they should call it Leopard Cub."
No offense buddy... But AARRGGH that is so gay my eyeballs are bleeding - wbeavis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+36To all those say Apple should buy Cisco, should Apple buy Microsoft too? Yeah and IBM. How about the U.S. Government?
Oh wait, Apple's market value is less than everyone of them. Gee, I guess they can't.
/boneheads. Cisco is a much larger and probably stronger company. - osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+35@Rasterbator:
"BREAKING NEWS: Apple buys Cisco
Moving on..."
Who would loan them the money? What kind of idea is this? You do realize that, if bought today, Apple would have spend about 210% of what their entire company is worth? Why speak if you don't make sense? - flag564, on 10/12/2007, -6/+38"I doubt this will be a huge deal. Apple will probably just pay them off outside of court and it will be fine."
Cisco: the price is set at ......
1 BILLION DOLLARS! - dcipjr, on 10/12/2007, -15/+46I would actually like Cisco to win and have Apple change the name. The good thing about the name "iPhone" is that everyone recognizes it, but I actually think it's too restrictive. This thing is WAY more than a phone, and the name should indicate that.
- MarkCiccone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+30That's before, this is now. Apple didn't file the necessary paperwork, Cisco got pissed. Did you read the article?
"Cisco entered into negotiations with Apple in good faith after Apple repeatedly asked permission to use Cisco's iPhone name," said Mark Chandler, Cisco senior vice president and general counsel, in a statement. "There is no doubt that Apple's new phone is very exciting, but they should not be using our trademark without our permission." - qualish, on 10/12/2007, -4/+34@ sniperx
What the holy *****, dude? You are a fine example of an idiot who does not look into facts... let alone think before writing. Cisco as a company is much, much larger than Apple could ever dream to be. And as far as "trademark squatting", how is purchasing a company which trademarked "iPhone" in 1996 squatting? (note, Cisco may have acquired the trademark through purchase of InfoGear Technology Corp in 2000, but that company held it prior to that) I don't even think Apple had *iMacs* in 1996... which started the whole i[enter word here] branding campaign.
Oye. Please, press the power button on your computer... walk away, and return in 5-10 years when you can string together a comment worth reading. - netjd, on 10/12/2007, -3/+31@sniperx
It is not ignorance to issue a statement like 'Apple should buy Cisco'? You should check the business statistics and market worth. After that you will know what I mean when I say ignorant. - jaydog3199, on 10/12/2007, -5/+30iFone
problem solved - osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27SniperX - Apple hasn't manufactured any phones yet. cisco has. They are a high end switch/router/firewall/appliance/services/consulting company and now add consumer electronics. Your arguments frankly suck.
- rebrad, on 10/12/2007, -10/+33Pay up Jobs. Apple is not going to get away with thievery this time. Cisco has plenty of lawyers and more money than Apple Inc.
- BevansDesign, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24I've gotta say, it looks like Apple's going to be changing the name of their phone, or paying a considerable sum to Cisco for the use. Not only is it a registered trademark, but it's also a name that Cisco is USING.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24 I have to give props to Apple, not only do they want to pick on somebody their own size, they want to pick on somebody twice their size lol :)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19@reichg
Thats all nice and dandy, you forgot one thing, the iphone name was trademarked before the iMac came out. I'm sorry but this isnt some small company trying to make a buck off Apple, Cisco is a big company thats worth twice as much as Apple. - rompom7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18Thats not the 'thing' at all. The thing is Cisco is 100% in their rights to sue Apple. They had the name since 2000.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22you might have gone with just not posting it at all -- off-topic, obscure, and just too damn long to read.
- Bewildebeast, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22@kmckanna
Copyright != trademark
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark - Azuroth, on 10/12/2007, -7/+24Too long. Not Funny. -1
- NerveBand, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19Can you please back up your facts instead of just posting random ***** that not even you understand.
Thanks. - osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Sniperx - what is your position? You seem to be waffling.
- hotdamn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2007/corp_010907b.html
Cisco's Official Comments on the Apple iPhone Announcement
SAN JOSE Calif., January 9, 2007 - Given Apple's numerous requests for permission to use Cisco's iPhone trademark over the past several years and our extensive discussions with them recently, it is our belief that with their announcement today, Apple intends to agree to the final document and public statement that were distributed to them last night and that addressed a few remaining items. We expect to receive a signed agreement today. - merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14"I'm pretty sure you can't trademark wildcards. :P"
In bizzaro world, you can trademark regular expressions.
Bizzaro Apple has a trademark on /i[A-Z][a-z]+/ - kagelump, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16does anyone actually realize that the Cisco iPhone is an ip phone
and has nothing to do with some 'hip' 'new' way to name your products - marinist, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16"The problem in this case is that the trademark wouldn't exist without Apple's trademark iName scheme."
On the contrary, trademarks exist independently of each other, including iAnything. The iPhone trademark exists because Cisco holds rights to it; Apple has no legal claim to iPhone even with their iPod, iMac, iEtc. - insomniac8400, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16Cisco can't get bad PR over this. The dumbass fanboys that buy iPods and fill them with emo aren't cisco customers. Plus no business is going to dump cisco anything over a dumb issue like this. Outside of the fanboy community Apple doesn't exist.
- insomniac8400, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16Down fanboy Down!
The company InfoGear has used the name iPhone since June 6, 1997.
http://www.arb-forum.com/domains/decisions/94369.htm
Since you probably don't understand math or time, 1997 is before 1998. - negativefx, on 10/12/2007, -17/+29@combatchuck: I'm sorry, but you can't trademark putting a letter in front of a word. i+noun just doesn't cut it in court.
- Retrocide, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Yeah, like Apple could afford to buy Cisco.
Apple Market Cap: 83.35B
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?d=t&s=AAPL
Cisco Market Cap: 174.17B
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CSCO&d=t - monkeyrun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I wouldn't be surprised to see apple renaming it to (Apple) Phone.
- Ignignokt01, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14This is how business works. It may be flawed, but seriously, Apple should expect this when theres already a product in the market named iPhone that is legally trademarked.
- EtherGnat, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15"who wants buttons on their phone?"
You do. So does everybody else. Lack of buttons is NOT a good thing. I don't care how well Apple implements their touchscreen, it will never be as good for dialing/typing as physical buttons. It's been proven time and again on everything from laser keyboards to touchscreen phones. - wounded625, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12i just registered *
time to sue you all - CorpT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11"I think Cisco is trying to cash in on the instant market recognition that the keynote announcement provided."
You know, if Cisco knew 5 years ago what the keynote announcement would be, I would think they would have used their prescience a little better than naming a consumer-end VoIP phone to coincide with an Apple product. Frankly, I would have just figured out some lottery numbers and cashed in real quick. - RonaldLewis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Why not iPod Phone?
- codelogic, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12in talks != resolved
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