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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+26Nice... more space junk.
BTW, "kinetic kill vehicle" != "anti-satellite laser weapon". - The_Wallbanger, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22Your DirectTV reception is now in jeopardy.
- KingAdrock, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18"But this scares me more than Global Warming."
Are you floating around in space or something? - cmilki, on 10/12/2007, -7/+22What does this have to do with Apple ?
- elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13For one, this is in the wrong category.
For two, the title is completely wrong, it's not a laser weapon.
Buried. - Paroparo, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14Most Americans are no comfortable with their country not being the undisputed military superpower on Earth. It's been so since the end of the Cold War and the balance of power has only recently started shifting, a thing some people are finding hard to accept/believe.
- ElGuano, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Apple products are too shiny and reflective to be affected by lasers.
- gwolf, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Why does everyone get so paranoid when other countries learn to do what we have been doing for decades. Destroying one of your own satellites is hardly an attack.
- Bowser, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I too am wondering why the article goes out of its way to call it an "attack" multiple times. It's not an attack if it's on your own satellite. That's a test.
- IvanB, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10Apple?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I looked up "kinetic kill vehicle" and found a picture of Chuck Norris swinging his arm.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6wageslave: China is still a communist authoritarian state. This is the same government that killed defenceless civilians at Tiananmen Square. One of my uncles died during those protest and just because they are now capitalist, I still don't trust China.
Why worry? Because they can destroy, spy satellites, GPS system, weather satellites, communication systems... - howsmusic4u, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Shhhhhhhhh! We're huntin for satellites.
- halik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"...destroying an aging Chinese weather satellite target with a kinetic kill vehicle launched on board a ballistic missile."
no laser, inaccurate - UltimaNut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Oh please the drama. If they said attack one more time in that article I think i was going to hurl. It not like they attacked another countries satallite. They blew up thier own.
Attack..attack...come on. - Hooj, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The satellites must be running on OSX. That would explain the Apple connection.
- koregaonpark, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"What does this have to do with Apple ?"
@ cmilki: Oops! I'm so used to submitting Apple stories, that I made the mistake of submitting this one to the category. - mstrebe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5The balance of power is not starting to shift. The U.S. spends more on and possesses more military capabillity than the entire remainder of the world combined (and that's not unconsidered exaggeration, it's a cold solid fact). China's military, at full build-up speed, won't achieve anything near parity until 2050 at the earliest. Their Navy does not yet venture out into the Pacific. They only barely have self defense capability and will likely never develop the power projection capability that the U.S. military has. They possess less than 1/40th the number of ICBMs that the united states has and not enough to destroy a large country, much less the world. Their advanced technology weapons and ships are still purchased from France and Russa rather than being locally produced (although that is changing rapidly). The Chinese will never be able to wage war in South America the way we routinely wage war in Asia.
They have good reason to fear us, and I say kudos to them on their successful test. Every nation should have the capacity to defend itself. Shooting down satellites doesn't kill people--it's clearly a defensive weapon. - cfpresley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Nice article, but marked as inaccurate because of category and Title.
Sat was taken out by Kinetic, ie Bullet or missle weapon, not laser. - numba1xclusive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2In other news, Daniel Craig will be starring in the next James Bond, 007: GoldenEye returns....
- Bob042, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I can't decide whether to bury for wrong topic or inaccurate. It's clearly not apple, but it also has nothing to do with lasers, it was a missile.
In other news, at least 100 people have dugg this without reading the article... Or even the description. - DeepDoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I always wondered why you would not want ASAT weapons. I am a bit fuzzy on international law. Can someone explain how you can have national airspace but the area above that is not yours to defend? I mean if someone has a spyplane over your country, and you can shoot that down, how is a spy satellite over your country any different?
Wouldn't you want to shoot those down, even during peacetime? - koregaonpark, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2My mistake. Apologies.
- kryptobs2000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2that really is kind of illogical if you think about it. I mean, you have to set a boundry somewhere; if it just went strait up forever then that means people on earthy own the entire solar system and no one is allowed to fly there or they can be shot down. Space seems like a fair boundry to me and yeah we have spy satalites up there spying on other nations but that's more of an indirect violation sort of thing.
- jedikd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4More than global warming? I dunno about you, but those of us on the coasts are more afraid of being buried under water than we are of losing DirecTV and car navigation GPS.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -17/+19Yes. You are the only one.
America: Stop viewing the world as the boardgame "RISK". It happens that USA is more warlike than any nation on the planet; the planet *really* does feel threatened.. and its by the USA.
ASAT weapons aside, why wouldnt/shouldnt China feel threatened? The USA is fighting a war, and threatening on escalating (into Iran) right next door. - kodak543, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1or apple could be funding it to protect there factories. they dont want Microsoft or Creative to be spying on them, and stealing there profit making ipod factory designs.
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1[quote]I'm not a 'sky is falling' kind of guy. But this scares me more than Global Warming.[/quote]
Global warming is already starting to affect us. Haven't you noticed the weather the last couple of years. It's become freakish. El Nino was the first sign. The melting ice caps are the second. Katrina may very well have been the third. And then there are the forest fires on the West Coast. They weren't this bad years ago. It's either "terrorists" setting them, or the weather is changing.
They said that the weather would have normalized by now, but it hasn't. Recent winters on the East Coast have been the warmest on record, I don't remember the last time we had 50-60F weather in January in NYC, and I don't remember it ever being that warm for weeks! There are also the record heatwaves in Texas and Arizona.
What about the flooding in the EU? They are even growing wine in the northern UK. That used to be impossible just a few years ago! And you're going to say nothing has changed?
Forget the satellites, look at the devastation one storm like Katrina can cause. And think about if the food supply is disrupted. 50% of California's citrus crop is dead this year. - g30ph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Any technology we are aware of is surely dwarfed by the technology we don't know about. For instance, do you think the UFOs flying over the US deserts are actually alien? We only see these things after they have existed in secret for years.
- kodak543, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2thats an iffy way of looking at things. The soviet union "liberated" as many countries as we did, and we basically followed a method which was invade, say its for democracy and freedom, and then install a dictator (or in iraq's case, a "democratic" govt based on the hatred of sunnis)
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You can't conduct a test of that without breaking the non-proliferation treaty. No bombs in space allowed, unless WW3 breaks out.
- cybermort, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1could the kill our p0rn??
- mos6507, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I just can't wrap my mind around the fact that on the one hand China is one of if not the biggest trading partner we have but is also seen as our greatest military threat. Seems like if both countries feel a military conflict is in the future we shouldn't have our economies so interdependent. it wasn't so long ago that the idea of our top technology falling into Chinese hands was unthinkable. Now they are making our computers. Either the cold war is still on with China or it isn't.
- thcobbs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@imperium2000
What about losing a majority of (cell and "landline") phone service, weather monitoring, GPS abilities for our troops, ISS being held hostage, shuttle being shot down?
Shall I continue? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1another sputnik, what?
- KissTheRing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you have to send the kinetic kill vehicle via a ballistic missile, why not just blow it up with a small warhead on the ballistic missile? Seems too elaborate when it could be greatly simplified.
- davidwells, on 10/12/2007, -16/+16"If the test is verified it will signify a major new Chinese military capability."
I'm not a 'sky is falling' kind of guy. But this scares me more than Global Warming.
Am I the only one? - goodness0001, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3"Most Americans are no comfortable with their country not being the undisputed military superpower on Earth. It's been so since the end of the Cold War and the balance of power has only recently started shifting, a thing some people are finding hard to accept/believe."
Another pile of crap. I am willing to wager 90% of Americans are very comfortable with the United States being the undisputed super power on Earth. Its the 10% far far far left people who hate their country and operate in a theoretical la la land that are not comfortable. - monkeyrun, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2apparently yes, you are the only one.
Global warming vs China having laser weapon ...
seriously can you really compare them side by side ? - covareo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1'kinetic kill' does not equal 'laser'...
- AggroBoy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Not a laser, and not Apple related. Buried as inaccurate.
- Moby22, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@davidwells,
You are not the only one.
This is indicative of a new arms race that is developing over the world's information. In the Cold War it was like this, just not as much, since the Soviets knew that the Americans knew what they thought they knew (if you know what I mean), but everybody knew that nobody else knew.
These days, when terrorists are using Google Maps to plan attacks, information has become both currency and ammunition. Everybody knows everything, unless you proactively take steps to keep them from knowing (PGP encryption, Torrent encryption, TOR networks, shooting down satellites).
Funny thing is that if the world really is much "safer" when only one person is holding the gun (although it still sucks for everyone else). But give the other guy a gun and now you have a Mexican standoff, which is where people get hurt.
Arms races are inevitable, but never good, IMHO.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_standoff - CedEx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Laser targeting??? Laser pointer?
I hope they added something laser to it, otherwise we'll have an inaccurate heading! What shall we do?! - CedEx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Or maybe the factory workers who assembled the satellite killer ate apples at lunch?
- sixfootduo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0The Chinese has also been using ground based lasers to blind US Military Satellites from collecting data over China. This has been going on for sometime.
I've seen several shows on the Military Channel where generals talked about this and also talked about that the US is working on a solution to replace Satellites with different technologies.
You many not trust want to trust the US Government but you can trust the US Government to be the .... the US Government, and I am personally more than happy with that, especially with over 750 F-35 Lightning 2's on order for over 200 million each. - freelancing, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1How is this related to Apple? Interesting? Yes. Related to Apple? I think not.
- v3rb4t1m, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0oh ***** *****... this is very very bad i'm going to puke on my desk.
- PerroLoco, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Be wery wery quiet.
- zouhair, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1"You see citizens of america, they did it"
"we should do it too"
"give us your ***** money and let us protect you" - goodness0001, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3"America: Stop viewing the world as the boardgame "RISK". It happens that USA is more warlike than any nation on the planet; the planet *really* does feel threatened.. and its by the USA."
What a pile of crap. America has liberated more people in the world that all the other countries combined. The world loves to bash the United States when things are going good for them. As soon as their crap hole of a country gets itself into trouble, the whole world looks to the US to fix it. -
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