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- kmotiv1, on 07/08/2008, -7/+326So awesome.
- phatboye, on 07/08/2008, -35/+280Does anyone else find it ironic that Apple is angry at another company for selling overpriced products and services?
- kooze, on 07/08/2008, -1/+133This is fantastic news! I don't know how much customer volume Apple is cutting off from Rogers versus their initial plans with these moves, but it seems very significant. Between this and the 50,000 people who just say no to Rogers we're seeing that, yes, customer mobilization works! Keep the pressure on and encourage all your friends and colleagues to resist stepping into that Rogers/Fido store on July 11th!
- yabos, on 07/08/2008, -0/+131Man, ***** rogers really screwed us over. We were all looking forward to the iPhone finally coming to Canada legit but rogers just destroyed their own potential market.
- topherwheeler, on 07/08/2008, -1/+105While I'm not crazy about AT&T's new plans (I'm OK with the extra $10 for faster internet, but no texts and the lowest plan NOT offering unlimited nights and weekends), Rogers did take their "advantage" with iPhone in the wrong direction.
I do have a little hope that people petitioning and now Apple apparently taking their side on this issue, that Rogers will come to their senses and change their plans accordingly. - xerexes1, on 07/08/2008, -3/+79If all of the people that signed the petition are truly potential Canadian iphone customers, I'm sure that Apple is just thrilled that it has lost $10 million (Canadian) in sales thus far.
- flxstr, on 07/08/2008, -14/+84There's a big difference here.
Apple -> Premium
Rogers -> Raping - inactive, on 07/08/2008, -2/+65Oh god yes.
- Macbook Pro/iPhone owner. - DionRodrigues, on 07/08/2008, -1/+48Only 3 more days until all hell breaks loose at the Rogers store around the corner from my house - I can't wait to see the show :)
Really though, I hope Rogers sees the light now and realizes they are going to be working a lot of overtime to haul out all these iPhones unless they do something about their prices.
Also, note how not-neutral this AppleInsider article is.... "disgusted" with Rogers much? - ScottyDontKnow, on 07/08/2008, -7/+46There are only SIX Apple stores in ALL OF CANADA!!!!!!!!! its not really that big of a deal.
3 in Toronto
1 in Edmonton
1 in Laval
1 in Vancouver - uberphildo, on 07/08/2008, -2/+39If you do the math, the lowest plan *does* offer unlimited nights and weekends. Let's say that nights run from 9pm to 6am, a total of 9 hours. This is multiplied by 4 days (Monday through Thursday nights) to give you 36 hours of "Night" minutes, plus another 57 hours for the weekend (including the extra 9pm and 6am part of Friday night and Sunday morning) bringing a one-week total of 93 hours per week of night/weekend minutes. Multiply by four and you have 372 hours in a month.
Almost done.
Now multiply that by 60 to get 22,320 "Night and Weekend" minutes each month. The lowest plan has 5,000 minutes. This means that you would need to spend almost *one quarter* of your time, every night and throughout every weekend, talking on the phone in order to go over. If you can somehow justify being on the phone almost three hours every single weeknight, and an additional 6 or 7 hours on the phone every single Saturday and Sunday, then you can probably justify jumping up to the next plan.
Short version:
5000 Night and Weekend minutes is the same thing as Unlimited except in extremely odd circumstances. - ruest, on 07/08/2008, -2/+37HAHA! ***** YOU ROGERS!!!
- Darkyuubi, on 07/08/2008, -0/+35in the butt?
- inactive, on 07/08/2008, -1/+34They'd suffer even more if they bought an iPhone with these contracts. Wait a few weeks - Apple and the customers will have knocked some sense into Rogers.
- stjoad, on 07/08/2008, -0/+33So Canadians have no right to protest Rogers' poor plans just because O2 is equally bad? I...I don't get it.
- jayhawk, on 07/08/2008, -0/+28it's not like Apple has much of a choice. what competitor can they turn to in Canada? there isn't one. Rogers has a monopoly.
- loconet, on 07/08/2008, -2/+26...and that would be the optimistic result (for them). They are not only losing the immediate "sales" of IPhones. They are losing potential longer term customers. That is much more costly.
They are losing customers in terms of sales of related accessories and services, and most importantly, they are losing customers that could have used the IPhone as gateway product into other Apple products. Rogers is not only ***** the Canadian consumers. They are ***** themselves up and Apple at the same time. - Temo1, on 07/08/2008, -5/+29Hmm.. cites "reports" by bloggers on the internet who claim to have unnamed sources inside Rogers/Apple. With no article that I can see by a reputable news agency of any kind. And no statements by either company.
Wake me up when you can prove any of this is actually happening. - kick, on 07/08/2008, -0/+22I don't think you undertand that Rogers is the only network in the country that the iPhone will work on.
- worldchanger, on 07/08/2008, -2/+23what what?
- SnowBladerX, on 07/08/2008, -0/+20But does that plan include unlimited data? None of the Rogers plans do.
- lasombragh, on 07/08/2008, -3/+22I think it's more like Apple siding with the money. It's pretty safe to say that Rogers' plans haven't exactly been welcomed with open arms by the public, so Apple is certainly smart enough to just allocate those phones to places they KNOW are more likely to sell them.
Don't get me wrong: I like Apple and will be buying an iPhone (here in the states), but I call it like I see it. Bury away. - ngmcs8203, on 07/08/2008, -2/+20I hated word problems as a kid, but I'll give you an A for effort and just trust that your math is correct. I lost interest halfway through the "Almost done." phrase.
- shade45, on 07/08/2008, -0/+18No Blame Rogers...
- stelth, on 07/08/2008, -0/+17Canceling a contract with Rogers or Fido costs $400.
- Linake, on 07/08/2008, -0/+17jayhawk is right, supermanred. Rogers is the only carrier in the country that is actually 'national'.
Take my city of Thunder Bay, for example. We're in Ontario, we should have every cellular company to choose from. However, since we are in North-Western Ontario (apparently Ontario ends at Sault Ste. Marie for most people) the only companies that will give us full service are Rogers and locally-run TBayTel. I'm sure it's the same in other cities, too, where apparently a population of over 100,000 doesn't constitute Bell, Virgin or Telus availability. Then, of course, there are the poor people who live in smaller towns like Kakabeka who have to use TBayTel because not even Rogers will give them cellular signal.
Yes, maybe I am a little bitter. - tiuk, on 07/08/2008, -0/+16Telus. Bell, and Virgin are all CDMA.
- graemee, on 07/08/2008, -1/+17Which would be Rogers/Fido.
- bobthedino, on 07/08/2008, -0/+15Although that £30 plan (like all the other O2 plans) comes with unlimited data, and free wi-fi.
- billybob476, on 07/08/2008, -0/+15No, blame Canada. The government allowed the Canadian wireless market to get into the state that it's in.
- gavin422, on 07/08/2008, -7/+21I don't think Apple is "disgusted" at all. They just figure that they won't sell nearly as many phones because of the ***** plans, so there's no need to overstock their Canadian stores.
- fanas, on 07/08/2008, -1/+14and you're spelling it wrong!
- worldchanger, on 07/08/2008, -0/+12epic fail.
- ngmcs8203, on 07/08/2008, -0/+12It's because he phrased the question in such a way that comment skimmers wouldn't mistake his comment for any fanboy bashing.
- JnOrris, on 07/08/2008, -0/+12So basically your telling us to pay $200 + $500 (to cancel) = $700, just to use the phone with Rogers again.... great thinking there buddy.
- elfuego, on 07/08/2008, -0/+12Two Words: Unlimited Data
Also: Not A 3 Year Contract - scottschiller, on 07/08/2008, -0/+12Yes, all six of their Canadian stores. (No, seriously!) - http://www.apple.com/ca/retail/
- farfromsubtl, on 07/08/2008, -3/+14I love this!
- JPong01, on 07/08/2008, -0/+11Actually you could blame Canada. More specifically the government for giving Rogers a monopoly.
Yes, I am Canadian, no I do not plan on getting an iPhone, even if Rogers changes its attitude. - blacklilyninja, on 07/08/2008, -0/+11... i'll buy an unsubsidized iphone if they sell them. but never ever ever use rogers ever
- jsudesign, on 07/08/2008, -0/+11***** Rogers, I'm dropping my plan with them when I get home!
My buddy pays like $25 / month for unlimited text / voice mail / caller id / free after 6 and 150 weekday minutes for....
$25 a month with Virgin Mobile.
Somehow I got screwed into a $75 / month plan that barely matches his specs on his phone plan. - shadowfoxmi, on 07/08/2008, -1/+11Calgary is in Canada?
- graememc, on 07/08/2008, -3/+13I don't see any quote from Apple saying that the reason for not selling iPhones in Apple stores is 'disgust' with Rogers. I would assume it's more about restrictions in their contract with Rogers, or the logistical problems of signing people up for Rogers contracts from Apple stores. I'm not so happy with Rogers right now, but I think this is jumping to unfair conclusions.
- minuteZERO, on 07/08/2008, -2/+12Don't forget the one in Calgary!
- damirK, on 07/08/2008, -2/+12Send the iPhone to Bell!! I have a 15 dollar per month unlimited web browsing data plan for my HTC Touch.
Apple needs to make a CDMA iPhone. - chron, on 07/08/2008, -1/+11You know, Zimbu, your anger does little to help you prove your point.
You may have a valid argument (I think you do), but presenting your points in dogmatic language laced with insults makes it hard to take you seriously.
Imbeciles? Really? You must know all of us, right? Else how could you categorically lump us together?
Perhaps you should consider your own advice about using logical thinking before making sweeping statements you cannot back up. - loconet, on 07/08/2008, -0/+10No, Blame the Canadian Government for allowing Rogers buy out the only other GSM provider.
- lpferris, on 07/08/2008, -0/+9Canadian mobile phone users have been screwed for a long time by expensive plans and really expensive add-ons that are standard for most providers. My mother-in-law lives in Vancouver, and has to pay $5 extra per month just for voicemail. It's about time someone stood up to the Canadian mobile phone providers and did something for consumers.
- FastForward108, on 07/08/2008, -0/+9Maybe not, but I imagine most (if not all) Canadians hate getting ripped off. Just like real people!
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