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- SirZRX, on 01/12/2008, -5/+44WiMax will succeed regardless apple position
- seldon452, on 01/12/2008, -4/+41Short answer- Yes becuase apples main goal is taking an underdeveloped sector of technology and mainstreaming it. This is what apple has been doing for years and its worked pretty well so far.
- jlgolson, on 01/12/2008, -1/+35USB. Almost no computers had it before the original iMac came along with ONLY USB connections. It forced the market to start making USB devices and had the other manufacturers scrambling to catch up with this "new" tech.
802.11b. Same thing. Apple put it in all their laptops, starting with the original iBook. Mainstreamed a technology that hardly any PC's had. - sweintraub, on 01/12/2008, -2/+23Intel is building it into every chipset it produces, this is a no brainer.
the EEE and OQO both have it. IT is a done deal - kelly, on 01/12/2008, -0/+18jlgolson mentions USB and 802.11b (and G) wireless networking but long before that Apple was the first company to include ethernet networking on all their computers and lets not forget the floppy drive. They were the first company to adopt it... and not surprisingly the first one to leave it behind when it had long since passed its prime.
- Tiak, on 01/12/2008, -1/+18Erm, no, not "backwards compatible", they're two completely different systems, using two completely different frequencies for two separate purposes.
- hotsoda, on 01/12/2008, -1/+16How does a source give you a 60% chance? MacWorld is 4 days away, you'd think if your "source" was reliable, they would know or not.
Either way, it's Valley Wag. This will probably happen eventually, but I personally think it's a stretch to include it this soon. - super_spyder, on 01/12/2008, -0/+14if you are a video professional (or amature) firewire revolutionized video editing.
- lieutenantmudd, on 01/12/2008, -0/+143G support doesn't come free with every Intel chipset. But yes, it would make more sense. This article seems like a rumor chasing an explanation of the banner tagline more than an actual leak.
- daGUY, on 01/12/2008, -0/+13***** their "sources" told them about this. How convenient that their sources say "oh yeah, Apple's gonna include WiMax in all their laptops" on the very same day that these banners show up. If their sources are so great, how come they had no idea before today? And what's with the "60% chance"? Either it's true or it's not.
Not that I'm ruling this out as a possibility - I just don't buy for a second that they have any sources on this whatsoever. They saw the banners and they made this up to get publicity. - thetin, on 01/12/2008, -0/+13but then what's in the air?!
- Jerk, on 01/12/2008, -1/+11I don't know about WiFi, but absolutely, positively yes on the USB. Before the iMac came out, I had an Acer desktop with a single USB port. There were VERY few USB peripherals out there, I didn't even know what I could plug into the port (and I sold computers at the time.) When Apple released the iMac (almost a year later, IIRC), suddenly there was an explosion of USB peripherals. Printers, mice, keyboards, gamepads, joysticks, etc.
Do a little research, I think you'll find that the success of USB is mostly due to Apple. - etandrib, on 01/12/2008, -2/+12iPod has just a bit more than 4% of the market. Let's not get into the PC vs. Mac history.
- christhechris, on 01/12/2008, -0/+9My Wi-Fi (on a old Powerbook G4 and new Alum. iMac) works great...must suck to be you...
- cvrefugee, on 01/12/2008, -0/+7You obviously have no idea how WiMax works.
- zakatov, on 01/12/2008, -0/+6Apple resurrected USB and made 802.11b "for the rest of us". In fact iBook was the FIRST consumer notebook to have WiFi.
- zakatov, on 01/12/2008, -0/+6except every camcorder and laptop has a FW port.
- fcukthisgame, on 01/12/2008, -0/+5Nope. It's the same technology Clearw*re uses. WiMax is relatively pretty fast though. Currently up to 2 mbit. Laptop PC Cards at 1.5. If apple could get away with it, it'd be nice.
Problem is, though, that WiMax isn't even remotely close to covering the US. Not even fully covering regions. or states.
http://www.clearwire.com/store/service_areas.php - Me1000, on 01/12/2008, -1/+6we will find out tuesday!
- thetin, on 01/12/2008, -0/+5...why wait for the truth when we can have the lies now!!
I say it's really well designed national ID cards. If they just hire apple to design and market them...people will be more than happy to write off their freedoms! - etandrib, on 01/12/2008, -0/+4Buried for having "sources" in a blog post from Valleywag.
- alchemist27, on 01/12/2008, -1/+5***** off
- inactive, on 01/12/2008, -0/+4Check this out:
"Sprint announced a soft launch of its WiMAX services is underway in three major U.S. cities as a trial run to prepare the technology for wider launch later this year.
Xohm, which serves as Sprint's high-speed wireless Internet division, will begin offering mobile Internet business agreements for both Web portal services and WiMAX network access *******STARTING TUESDAY*******, the company announced."
This article was written Jan. 11, 2008. http://www.nytimes.com/idg/IDG_002570DE00740E18002 ... - FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 01/12/2008, -1/+5they never claimed to invent the mp3 player, you *****. they took credit for creating one that people could and would actually use-- not to mention lust over. it's also about what the ipod plus itunes has done and will continue to do: change the music industry almost completely. that's what they take credit for.
- Upsizer, on 01/12/2008, -1/+560% of the time, they're right every time.
- gravis86, on 01/12/2008, -0/+4It's mainly audio and video professionals that use FireWire. Most people are satisfied with USB. They just don't know what they're missing.
- fangorious, on 01/12/2008, -0/+4OEM motherboards included USB just as a set of pins in their own layouts, and you often had to shop around to find a cable that would work. PC builders that actually gave you real USB ports wouldn't ship a machine without any of the legacy ports. So device manufacturers avoided making USB peripherals. Then the iMac came along and you could only use USB for peripherals and it didn't come with a floppy drive or a CD burner. So in order to have writable removable media you needed a USB drive. That led to the initial flood of USB devices.
- monkeyrun, on 01/12/2008, -1/+5Wifi maybe, there was a period of time when the Apple airport was actually the most popular router.
And as far as USB goes, Apple literally saved USB from dying. - clancemasterj, on 01/12/2008, -0/+4So, AT&T on my iPhone and now* Sprint on my** MacBook Air..... I don't think so.
*Tuesday **maybe on Tuesday - theprez, on 01/12/2008, -3/+6"But Apple has proven it can popularize technologies -- think USB in the original iMac, and Wi-Fi in the iBook."
Wait a minute... I'm an Apple fan or whatever, but is this true? I would recall most PC's and laptops had USB by the time Apple used it. And WiFi on the iBook.. wasn't the iBook one of the last notebooks to get the feature?
How about Firewire 400 and Firewire 800? I don't see Apple dropping them, but they're not really "popular". I don't see the whole industry picking up on FW800 even though it is quite awesome. - TheSexyGeek, on 01/12/2008, -0/+3I work for a WiMAX ISP. WiMAX is far from Untested or Unproven. But it's a chicken-egg situation. The benefits of WiMAX depend on end-user hardware hat supports it. Nobody is going to deploy a wimax network where no-one can use it. Intel is pushing WiMAX hard, so it will try to embed WiMAX in as many portable devices as possible, thus increasing demand. This will drive ISPs to build WiMAX networks. It's not like an Apple Notebook with a WIMAX chipset won't be able to use Wi-Fi or anything else. It'll be largely unused at first, but will provide an incentive for ISPs to deploy WiMAX.
- zakatov, on 01/12/2008, -3/+6save it from what? it's already on every camcorder out there. And most of the hard drives too. Where else do you want it?
- TheSexyGeek, on 01/12/2008, -0/+3Title is misleading. It implies that WiMAX needs saving somehow. I work for a WiMAX ISP. WiMAX is growing steadily. It's is a proven technology that is being used successfully in Europe and the Caribbean. Fixed WiMAX is used extensively in rural areas to provide last-mile broadband access. WiMAX also provides reliable WAN connectivity to clients with multiple sites.
What people don't realise is that the future benefit of WiMAX will be the fact that it is an open standard with strict rules regarding interoperability of devices. This means that anyone can make a WiMAX receiver, Just like anyone can make a DSL modem now. There is more to WiMAX than laptops. It's DSL over the air.
Mobile WiMAX needs end-user devices with WiMAX chipsets. Intel is pushing WiMAX because they make the chipset. It's a no brainer that they will persuade Apple to include WiMAX in their products, thus providing an incentive for ISPs to deploy WiMAX networks. The demand has to come from the end-user.
WiMAX isn't in need of saving. It's doing just fine. - MacParrot, on 01/12/2008, -0/+2I would also say that Apple has a bit more than 4% of the home computer market (estimates run from 6 to 15% depending on whose number you believe) where the real margins are. Corporations buy stripped to nothing boxes that mostly sit there and run MS Office.
- inactive, on 01/12/2008, -0/+2according to network solutions that domain is available!
- christhechris, on 01/12/2008, -1/+3They would even get that unless they live in very specific locations...the majority of people would get no benefit at all...WiMax makes no sense right now...maybe in a few years, when there is some infrastructure in the US behind it.
- Me1000, on 01/12/2008, -0/+2I still want a multi-touch tablet and new redesigned and cheaper cinema displays!
is that so much to ask Mr. Jobs? - prisoner24601, on 01/12/2008, -0/+2The WiMax equipment can be used in unlicensed bands. Any company will be able to buy a WiMax access point and deploy it on their campus the same way they do WiFi, just with much longer range. Yes, providers will offer paid service plans. Yes providers may well deploy is primarily in licensed spectrum they own. But NO, it is NOT like 4G or any other of those technologies using only closed/licensed spectrums that ONLY carriers can buy/deploy into. WiMax will change the game because anyone can get into it.
- tnoy, on 01/12/2008, -0/+2Apple releasing something with WiMAX would suck for a few other PC companies, they're not going to be the first ones with WiMAX in a product anymore.
- heynoop, on 01/13/2008, -0/+2yeah, you're pretty much an idiot.
- formergthing, on 01/12/2008, -0/+2If they do that, I'll eat my hat.
- thejokker, on 01/12/2008, -0/+2any idea when we will see that new eee with wimax?
- marnaq, on 01/13/2008, -0/+1Gee, those slogans never mean anything.
- joshuaer, on 01/13/2008, -0/+1My God TheSexyGeek did you read the article I was quoting it as in -- WiMax is an unproven technology with questionable support beyond Sprint and Intel. Questionable support mean that is has not been tested that well and people do not know how to support it. So correct the person that made the article not me.
- BryanTheCrow, on 01/13/2008, -0/+1False. They both came out in 1995. Intel & Microsoft were the first promoters of USB.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#History
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FireWire#History_and_ ... - swaddict, on 01/12/2008, -0/+1google has been buying up dark fiber and setting up infrastructure for years; could it be an announcement with google that they are ready to deploy, with apple the first to have the ability to connect via wi-max?
- ninjakoala, on 01/12/2008, -0/+1We've got Wimax here at 5/5Mb.
Then again Clearwire isn't using Wimax as far as I know (at least Clearwire in Denmark isn't). Instead they are using a draft version they've dubbed Wimaxx. It has some advantages but official Wimax is better for long range networking. - ninjakoala, on 01/12/2008, -0/+1"With WiFi, you can use it at work, at home, in your dorm if you're in school, anywhere there's an access point."
And with real Wimax you can use it anywhere as if it were a country-wide cellular network on steroids. Also Wimax is an open standard so prisoner24601 is right. Anyone can get in - although here a license was bought to grant a single supplier country-wide exclusivity. The Wimaxx standard is still around in the form of Clearwire, though, but their tecnhology is mostly used for high density areas. - johnpaul191, on 01/12/2008, -0/+1Sprint is the provider for the Kindel's EVDO access, right? While not WiMax, it may be an indication that Sprint is branching out from traditional cellular services.
- MacParrot, on 01/12/2008, -0/+1I don't think they were the first to adopt the floppy (by which I mean those 5 1/4 actual floppy disks) disk, but they were they first to use the 400k 3.5-inch disks with the Lisa and that continued with the Mac.
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