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Call of Duty 4 Coming to Mac!

m3mn0n.blogspot.com — This may not be news to everyone, but I just noticed that Amazon has Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare listed for pre-order. I was wondering how could this be possible, considering it's been out for a little while now. A closer looked revealed that it's actually the Mac version of this game!

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  • Justin125, on 07/06/2008, -8/+67Would had been a lot better if you linked to Amazon.
  • eatrains, on 07/06/2008, -3/+29Aspyr announced this back in January, then they delayed it in June.
    • Tenoq, on 07/07/2008, -3/+4Pathetic really. Personally, I love how Blizzard show up all the other game developers (like Activision) by doing simultaneous releases on Mac & PC, and worldwide. We need more Blizzards in the world, and less Activisions and EAs. :p

      Although I still game on a PC anyway. :P
      • nigh7dagger, on 07/07/2008, -0/+0The only thing that is pathetic is that Mac gamers are insulted by this. Big ***** surprise, they're releasing a game on Mac 8 months later than the PC version. It's not like that happens all the time or anything.
      • crashaskins, on 07/07/2008, -0/+0really tho..... Activision and Blizzard are the same thing really....they merged together did you miss the memo....
      • TomFrost, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1And let us remember that Blizzard released a REAL Mac version of WoW, with native code and optimized multithreaded OpenGL graphics engine, running on both Intel and PowerPC. Practically everyone else uses Transgaming Cider. While it's nice to have those mac versions, they're always far heavier than they need to be, work on limited computers, and leave that wonderful "Oh, yeah, mac was just an afterthought" taste in your mouth.
  • inetiatic, on 07/06/2008, -6/+41Great news, crappy blog.
  • digitalpencil, on 07/06/2008, -18/+21Sweet! I'm sick of having to reboot every time i wanna pop someone with my Barrett!
    • norman619, on 07/07/2008, -18/+12Sounds like you have a crap computer.
      • HairyGrapeNuts, on 07/07/2008, -3/+19No. He's using a Mac and Boot Camp. He has to reboot into Windows.
      • prophetpimp, on 07/07/2008, -19/+19So Norman's Assumption was correct. Digital Does have a crap computer :P
      • digitalpencil, on 07/07/2008, -1/+12god almighty, what is with you people? all i said was this looks cool and now all you geeks are bitching like 12 yr old girls.. to surmise, i like cod, i don't like having to reboot into windows to play it, so this looks cool.
    • chillypacman, on 07/07/2008, -17/+9haha, I wonder if you want to just be dugg up or if you've convinced yourself that's the way things roll.

      fyi macs are notoriously crap when it comes to gaming, they usually recquire systems that are considerably mor ebeffy than their PC counterparts, I remember warcraft 3, you know, that game which could run on a 444mhz celeron with 64mb of ram needing a 1.2ghz powerpc with a 128mb card to run on the equivalent mac.

      But you know, enjoy your sloppy fps and subpar graphics, at least you don't have to reboot to pop someone with your barret... ohw ait, you don't have to do that on windows either. go figure.
      • Fibula, on 07/07/2008, -5/+10I just checked my box, and you're wrong; Windows and OS X have the same hardware requirements.
      • MonkeyFarts, on 07/07/2008, -5/+6Shut the hell up. You're an idiot, and you're annoying.

        And look up OpenGL vs. DirectX. That might answer some of your questions regarding performance differences on the two platforms.
      • popfrogs, on 07/07/2008, -6/+16Don't know if you just came out of a time warp, cold storage chamber or what, but Macs have been built using Intel Core2 and Core2 Duo chips for a couple of years now. Their graphics chips/cards are usually pretty weak but some models are upgradeable or decent out of the box. As far as Apple is concerned, as long as the cheapest Nvidia chip can render all the whiz-bang graphical effects in MacOSX, that's good enough for anyone.

        Sorry, didn't mean to criticize Apple for you fanboys, but you've gotta admit, when their designers are sitting around pondering the latest iMac or Macbook Pro, the graphics chip is number 215 on their list of things to deal with.
      • chillypacman, on 07/07/2008, -11/+4@Fibula

        the game is not out yet, how would you know the recquirements?

        @MonkeyFarts

        You're calling me an idiot and then asking me to look up opengl vs. directx performance like that would at all be relevent? god you mac fanboys are dull.

        @popfrogs

        CPUs don't mean that much when it comes to 3D games, GPUs really differentiate performance. Now to add why this means nothing even though fairly powerful GPus like the 8800GT are out on the mac, the drivers for the mac are notorious for being undersupported and under powered. Makes sense, nVidia invests in developing drivers for the PC not the mac, so an 8800gt on the mac will not perform nearly as well as on the PC even if they have the exact same specifications.

        It's something mac fanboys are not willing to admit.
      • Kazaki, on 07/07/2008, -4/+7Hey guys! I'm a Mac user, and I'm here to talk about my satisfaction at the announcement that I finally no longer have to reboot into Windows to play Call of Duty 4!

        However, the fact that my primary interest in this is simply not to reboot is irrelevant and we must instead laugh at me for having the audacity to play games on Mac, even though the option to play on Windows is clearly available to me!

        And hey! When I buy Spore for Mac, I'm pretty much raping myself up the ass because I'm not playing it on Windows! Screw my search for convenience, this fact obviously makes my Mac absolutely useless and trashy since it can't play games.

        In other news, Xbox 360's and PlayStation 3's are the *****.
      • digitalpencil, on 07/07/2008, -3/+1My laptop runs at 1440x900 on high and i don't remember asking you to rate my computer.. quit being such a bitch, you sound like a *****.
      • tapo, on 07/07/2008, -1/+5He's talking about the requirements for Warcraft III, which are the same:

        http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?article ...

        Seriously, where did you pull the 1.2 GHZ requirement from? Or are you making up random statistics to support a baseless argument?
      • JEWestbrookJR, on 07/07/2008, -0/+5@kazaki Spoken like a true Windows user. I love people that think that games are the dividing line between awesome and terrible operating systems.

        I use Windows too, but just for that. Gaming. Linux and Mac OS X are for people who actually enjoy functionality of computers and productivity and don't think a computer's full function is to pwn n00bs.

        UNIX-based FTW.
      • chillypacman, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1@tapo

        Look up ther review on IGN on the warcraft 3 mac review then get back to me.

        They're also not 'statistics', I suppose idiots who use macs don't really know what system recquirements are....

        It's also cute how mac users don't know manufacturers tend to claim to have lower system recquirements than they really do to up their sales numbers... ah sweet innocent mac, being breastfed by steve jobs at an early age not really growing up, lost in his own arrogance.
    • BobOki, on 07/07/2008, -4/+9I regularly enjoyed getting 15-25fps more than the pc version of WoW in mac. I also enjoyed having the built in video and audio recording that only mac got.
      Pc being "better" than mac in gaming will be a thing of the past VERY shortly, with the OpenCL and GC coming, it will no longer be "easier" to program in DirectX... and having it in an OpenGL format means you also can provide your game tot he linux crowd.
      • honesttussey, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3Yea so I'm sure the millions of PC game devs and companies like EA and Ubisoft are just gonna just jump ship for 10.6 because it will be sooo much easier than DirectX.

        Come on man get real. I love my macbook but until Steve Jobs sets gaming as a priority on Mac OS X and actually does somethings to attract developers you will always be 6 months - 1 year behind PC releases. Just dual boot OS X and XP.
      • Dobby156, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1yea with all that upgradel hardware Macs have, every PC gamer, will jump ship and join team satan
    • Evi1d33d, on 07/07/2008, -4/+2I wonder is the game allows cross platform multiplayer. The mac noobs will get owned since it's probably the first real FPS they have.
      • alep85, on 07/07/2008, -0/+5....except the fact that many serious gamers own the higher end Macs (Macbook Pro and Mac Pro) and dual-boot with Boot Camp and kick ass using the Windows version. If you're not custom-building a PC or paying even more ridiculous prices than Apple for hardware (i.e. Alienware), Apples are great because they don't load the Boot Camp drivers disk with crapware like most PC manufacturers do on their PC's.
      • falafelkiosken, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1maybe it's because of those teenage nerds who ditch school just to play FPS all day long, what do you think?
  • clak, on 07/06/2008, -44/+10But... but... Mac sucks. They couldn't possibly run Call of Duty 4. It's Unpossible!

    /Microsoft Fanboy
    • Nerfdude, on 07/07/2008, -6/+16sure they can, but only after it's been out for almost a year on everything else.
      • SAOSiN, on 07/07/2008, -5/+4As long people still play it does it matter?

        What I want to know if Macs will be able to play against PCs...
      • prophetpimp, on 07/07/2008, -2/+1Why not? Its possible in other games, so why not this? EA did it with CnC Generals.
    • norman619, on 07/07/2008, -1/+7"But... but... Mac sucks. They couldn't possibly run Call of Duty 4. It's Unpossible!

      /Microsoft Fanboy" - Mac Fanboy

      If you bothered to look at the specs for the game you'd see they aren't anything special. All you need is a mid-level computer to run it. We aren't talking Crysis here.
      • AvidPreatorian, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1i have ran COD4 on my Mac since its launch
  • duddy, on 07/07/2008, -5/+11http://www.amazon.ca/11760-Call-of-Duty-4/dp/B0013 ...
  • brendanryder, on 07/07/2008, -15/+7dam, and i just got rid of my COD4 addiction.
    • chillypacman, on 07/07/2008, -3/+9so it will be mystical or something when it runs on the mac?
    • WhoDoneIt, on 07/07/2008, -2/+2Brendan sounds that stupid. Don't spoil it for him that it will be the same game but just on a different OS.
  • brainboy77, on 07/07/2008, -44/+162Do Macs have good enough graphics cards to run Cod4? It's a serious question. Also, wouldn't it be better to run on PCs that are clearly better and in some cases, designed for gaming?

    PS- If you like CoD4 as much as i love it, you would've already bought it for your 360/ps3.
    • skaspud, on 07/07/2008, -2/+7I'm a PC gamer.
    • clak, on 07/07/2008, -1/+4I know you Microsoft Fanboys are going to say Macs sucks no matter what the specs or reality for that matter, but here's the Video cards available for Macs currently. There may be more, but this is all I could find in five minutes.

      iMac

      ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT 128MB
      ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO 256MB GDDR3
      NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS 512MB GDDR3

      Mac Pro

      ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256MB
      NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB
      NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600 1.5GB

      Retail Cards for Macs

      ATI Radeon X800 XT 256MB GDDR3
      ATI Radeon X1900 XT 512MB
      Radeon HD 3870 512MB GDDR4 RAM

      Here is video of a few games running on middle level iMacs.

      Crysis on a Mac



      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlwmP9kp7m0



      Bioshock on a Mac



      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-f5KsGsBFE



      Halflife 2 on a Mac



      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd6gJeagEUo

      So yeah, there shouldn't be too much trouble.
      • norman619, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3COD 4 does not require a highend system or graphics card.
    • clak, on 07/07/2008, -2/+1I know you Microsoft Fanboys are going to say Macs sucks no matter what the specs or reality for that matter, but here's the Video cards available for Macs currently. There may be more, but this is all I could find in five minutes.

      iMac

      ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT 128MB
      ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO 256MB GDDR3
      NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS 512MB GDDR3

      Mac Pro

      ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256MB
      NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB
      NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600 1.5GB

      Retail Cards for Macs

      ATI Radeon X800 XT 256MB GDDR3
      ATI Radeon X1900 XT 512MB
      Radeon HD 3870 512MB GDDR4 RAM

      Here is video of a few games running on middle level iMacs.

      Crysis on a Mac



      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlwmP9kp7m0



      Bioshock on a Mac



      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-f5KsGsBFE



      Halflife 2 on a Mac



      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd6gJeagEUo

      So yeah, there shouldn't be too much trouble with COD4.

      • etherreal, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2So there is two cards on that list that could maybe handle CoD4. Um, w00t? GTX-280 for me, thank you very much.
    • Willravel, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2The Mac Mini? Probably not. MacBook? Probably not. The MacBook Pro has the 8800 GT, the iMac is sporting an 8800 GS, and the Mac Pro is more than capable. I'd say the latter could take it without too much trouble. If someone really wanted decent performance, they could outfit a Mac Pro with that Quadro FX 5600.
    • ut2k4king, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2If you have more money than God and have ponied up the ridiculous asking price for a Mac Pro (in which case you'd have installed Windows to play CoD4 on it already.), that Mac would run CoD4 fine on all high settings. Hell, I'd bet that my Macbook Pro would run it well enough under OS X (it ran it on medium to high settings in Windows and it's a 1st gen model).

      P.S.- If you love FPS's as much as I do you would've already realized how gimped console controllers are and picked it up for the PC.
    • ut2k4king, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2In a word, yes. A Mac Pro would have more than enough graphical power to run CoD4, and an iMac should manage on mostly high settings just fine (with a 20 inch screen to boot). I know it played well enough (medium settings) on my 1st Generation MacBook Pro under Windows. That being said, I don't love my Mac enough to buy CoD4 again, it works just fine on my desktop.

      P.S. If you like FPS's as much as I do, you'd already have realized how gimped console controllers are and picked up a copy (preferably off of Steam) for the PC.
    • ralphthemagi, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1In reality, today's Intel Macs have the same kinds of graphics cards as *most* PCs. There's the 15% of people with high-end graphics cards, and everyone else is either mid-range, low-end, or integrated. Most people aren't exactly sporting the latest and greatest.
    • nugz85, on 07/07/2008, -1/+3fps's are better on the pc. the evidence can be seen in counter strike. on the pc, it requires pinpoint accuracy and burst fire to get head shots, in a way not possible with the joysticks. the mouse lets you aim with precision... but that being said, cod 4 is still a great game on ps3.
    • superkendall, on 07/07/2008, -1/+4Yes, macs have modern graphics cards. Even some of the laptops.
    • tidu, on 07/07/2008, -0/+4The better Macs do. I've got the lowest-end MacBook Pro (bought it a year ago) and it comes with a 128MB GeForce 8600M GT standard. I think the lowest macbook pro today comes with a 256MB standard, upgradeable to 512. But I don't think MacBooks stand a chance, they've got on-board video.
    • rollerboy, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2Macbook Pro has a GeForce 8600GT, I don't think the rest of their lineup has anything significant or better.
    • ghostcat, on 07/07/2008, -0/+4A Mac Pro with an 8800 GT will run it just fine, thank you.
    • RafiParrr, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1Well, I have an intel Macbook Pro (2.2 Ghz) , and I've been running it on the Vista partition for quite some time now with a good resolution, high details and all the motion blur effects and whatnot. I really don't see why a mac version is news: I've been playing it on a mac for 6 months now.
    • chillypacman, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2they do but it won't run as well as on the mac due to buggy drivers and whatnot..
    • HUKI365, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1MacBook Pro and Mac Pro would be fine...

      Garuntee it would not run on Mini and plain MacBook (mostly via software restrictions actually)..toss up for the iMac.
    • thecheatah, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1First, I think some people only have Macs and will buy this game since they havnt had a chance to play. I only have linux, so I only play games that come out for the ps3. Second, Isnt a fps more fun with a mouse? I have COD4 for the ps3, the story was fun and all, but its no CS during online.

      I do miss gaming on linux :-(. (Just got done owning in sauerbraten insta gib.)
    • Sanctums, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1My macbook pro runs it. Not extremely well, but its definitely playable. So if you have a newer iMac(which pretty much has the same specs as the MBP) or Mac Pro it'll run fine. Wouldn't try it on anything else though.
    • Jrwhite8, on 07/07/2008, -0/+0All Macs other than a Macbook have great graphics cards. An iMac, MacBook Pro or Mac Pro should run it really well.
    • MonkeyFarts, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Head to store.apple.com and see for yourself. You can easily configure an iMac, Mac Pro, or MacBook Pro to play CoD 4 just fine at high settings with the 8800 GS on the iMac, 8800 GT on the Mac Pro, and 8600M GT on the MacBook Pro. On a Mac Mini, MacBook, or MacBook Air, though, you're pretty much out of luck.
    • neonfunk, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1macs don't really use all that different video hardware these days. also I don't see why you couldn't use the same gaming periphials with your pc or mac ... ? seems like the only way gaming machines are "designed" for gaming is that they're beefy, and the mac pro is definitely beefy.
    • cesclaveria, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1I do really love CoD4, that's why I bought it for my PC.
      I really did not like it on the 360
    • killtrocity, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3No ***** it would be better to run on a PC designed for gaming, but for anyone that already owns a mac... it would be pointless for them to go buy a computer just for gaming, especially if they already preferred macs.
    • hartley, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1I'm sure someone will give more/better examples, but I know there was a 15" Macbook Pro with a x1600 with 256 gddr3 ram that I was looking into buying a couple years ago. Thats plenty for even COD4. I'm sure they have even better cards in some of their products now.
    • thecwin, on 07/07/2008, -0/+0Yes they do :)
      The higher end Macs have the following assortment of cards: GeForce 8600M, Radeon 2600 Pro, GeForce 8800 GS, GeForce 8800 GT, all of which are just as powerful as or more powerful than the PS3/360 graphics cards.

      That's not to say I haven't been playing it on the PS3 for ages already :P
    • neil1492, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1The nice thing about Macs is that there are only a few that can actually run the game...Mac Pro, Macbook Pro and Imac. So there are only a limited number of hardware configurations they need to program for. So they should be able to make the most out of the game. In theory that is.
    • kenok, on 07/07/2008, -0/+4Is porting games to Mac is a bad thing?

      This is a good push for games on the Mac - more people to shoot at, online.
    • milkmage, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1serious answer: the 24" iMac ships with 512mb (nvidia 8800 variant) stock. not bto


    • Zarokima, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Yes, and possibly. As someone who uses a Mac for gaming (and everything else) I've never had trouble with specs for most modern games (though some need to run on medium rather than high), and my iMac's two years old. If you want a computer JUST for games, then hell yes you want a Windows machine that you can easily customize/upgrade/build yourself. However, if you want a computer to actually do other stuff with, it all comes down to personal preference and what works best as a whole for you.

      That said, thank Apple for Boot Camp.
    • Typhoon2009, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Yeah, they've got relatively decent graphics cards.
    • PullingTeeth, on 07/07/2008, -2/+1False. COD4 is best on PC.
    • Richy89, on 07/07/2008, -0/+0my macbook pro has a nvidia 8600 in it
      and the imacs have the ati hd 2600 cards, and the highest version has the nvidia 8800

      i have bootcamp and xp and i can run it on high settings at 1440x900 no problem

      what exactly makes a computer better for gaming? better components? get a mac G5 with 8 cores and endless ram lol
    • archivist, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1yeah i am worried about that, actually. i have this on my PS3 and i don't think it's enjoyable on a macbook pro given the current graphics cards
    • fusionFactor, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1So a ~$3,000 graphics card with 1.5GB of memory is not good enough to run this game? Hmmm...

      http://www.apple.com/macpro/technology/graphics.ht ...
    • fusionFactor, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1So a ~$3,000 graphics card with 1.5 GB of memory is incapable of playing this game?

      http://www.apple.com/macpro/technology/graphics.ht ...
    • jermm, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Runs on First-Gen intel iMac (X1600m/2Ghz Core Duo) OK in Windows, not amazing, but playable @ medium settings.
      The problem will be Apple's OpenGL, which is not the fastest thing in the world.
      The 8600m's in the new MacBook Pro's/anything in the new iMac's will run the Duty^4 just fine. It isn't Crysis. Now if Valve would just get Source running in OS X/Linux....
    • dbsmoker, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1I've heard the new iMacs rock. I'd actually consider getting one if PC gaming was an important to me, but it's not. I'll stick with my Mac mini's and my 360, for now.
    • luddep, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1My iMac with the 8800GS card runs CoD4 with all settings on the highest and 1920x1600 resolution in XP.
    • Burn, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2It runs perfectly on my MacBook Pro under Windows XP.
    • vibrate, on 07/07/2008, -0/+0You can put a NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600 1.5GB in a mac pro, but the stock ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT should easily be enough to run COD at full specs. I can run COD3 at full specs, 60fps with my 1900XT.
    • Phisolo, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2I play on my Mac regularly by booting into XP (via bootcamp). It is a MacBook Pro with 256MB Graphics Card. I would assume the machine will perform as well once the Mac version comes out.


      There are much better graphic cards for Mac towers, and I think you can get the laptops with 512MB now.
    • samfishercell, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Do Macs have good enough graphics cards to run Cod4?
      That's like asking if PCs have good enough graphics cards to run Cod4. Mine does. Others don't.

      Define "clearly better." Would it be better to play it on a PC that's clearly designed for gaming? Probably. I'm not exactly sure how they're porting it, but I'm guessing it won't be built for Macs from the ground up. Woupdee dee. Also, I've been holding off until I could get it for Mac so I didn't ps360 it. If I had the option to run it on hardcore gaming PC I'd take it, but seeing as how I finally got more than fed up with Windows, I'm happy to see it on the Mac.

      I've heard nothing but good things and enjoyed the 2 minutes (heh) I spent playing it before. I'm looking forward to picking it up.
    • r3zonance, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Apple Mac's have some high-end graphics cards, and lets be honest...you only need a choice of one good card to be able run Cod4. It's not like it needs 400 possibilities is it really?
    • Chirp08, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1They do, my MBP can run the COD4 demo under xp with everything completely maxed out at 15-25fps, if I actually tinkered with it good graphics and >30fps performance would be perfectly achievable. The Mac Pros shouldn't have any issues, all else might struggle a bit more.
    • das0408, on 07/07/2008, -0/+0cod4 runs just fine on my imac on vista via boot camp. the desktops have good enough graphics, and some of the higher end laptops.
    • combatchuck, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Macs use the same video cards as a PC, as far as I know.

      Also, how can you play an FPS with a controller? Mouse and keyboard ftw.
    • piwy, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Since my gaming pc died a while ago i've been playing non stop on my mac (booting into windows). It plays just fine. And that for an old macbook pro (revision 1.1 core duos and radeon x1600).

      If mine can play it with decent frame rates i'm pretty sure the newer macs can do it better.

      PS. Shooters are meant to be played with a pc and keyboard. No discussion there.
    • statc, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1When I first got a mbp back in march i dualbooted xp just to see how the graphics in cod4 would be, and I was pleasantly surprised. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the mac version and doing a side by side comparison on the direct x windows version and the OpenGL(that's what mac games use right?) version.
    • plosfas, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Just like a PC it really depends on the computer you get. I have a mac book pro with a geeforce 8600 GT which plays games fine. I can even run crysis in bootcamp. However trying to run serious games on say a mac mini or low end iMac would not work so well.
    • utnow, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Despite popular misconceptions, macs are quite capable graphically. If you have a PC that is clearly "better" (wow this is subjective) then of course it would make sense... if however you have an average "got it at Best Buy" windows PC, then it's probably not "better" and wouldn't make much sense. And unless you're a special breed of moron, you aren't going to be buying a new computer just to run this one game... which is why they are releasing it for other platforms. I suppose the market for this game is players who own a mac, don't own a PC, and either don't own a xbox360/PS3 or simply would rather play with a keyboard/mouse than a console controller (bleh!).
    • BobOki, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Well.... unless a 8800gt is not enough..... then yeah I guess it does not.
      Mac is always one generation behind in graphics cards, as they only want stable drivers. They are not willing to grab the latest and greatest becuase the drivers cause issues (there is no beta in mac), and that would counter the "it just works" moto.
      I currently have a 7600gt in my iMac 24", and the only game I have struggled with thus far is AoC, I had to use my mac book pro instead. *sigh* then again, AoC has SERIOUS problems in its engine, so take that as you will.
    • Atlasthetitan, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1usually the graphics cards should run it fine.

      aspyer would not make it if it could not run well in the mac environment.....
      ...now if only valve would show OS X some love....
    • iLemon, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Also can you connect to PC hosted servers requiring punkbuster client?
    • misfit410, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1If you like COD4, you would have gotten it on PC with far better graphics, controls, more players supported online and over 200 custom maps available.

      Games like that last forever on PC, and you got what? 4 maps that you had to pay for?
    • smoger, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1theres 2 or 3 models that should be able to run it. i dont think any of them are under 2 grand.
    • jwkpiano1, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Some do, i.e. Mac Pros, newer iMacs, or even MacBook Pros. Keep in mind, some people actually want to play with a mouse rather than a controller.
      BTW, I have it for 360.
    • ekSD, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1My 24" (last-gen 2.4GHz, ATi 2600XT) iMac runs Mass Effect at 1900x1200, full resolution textures, full lighting/shadows, etc etc.

      And Mass Effect is, by no means, an ugly game. I'm 100% sure it could run COD4 at near-full settings, and the new 24 inchers could probably handle it without a sweat.

      Just FYI.
    • NeoRicen, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1I run it under boot camp on my iMac and it runs fine, not max settings etc. but it looks ok.
    • sarchosis, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Yes, they do. GeForce 8800 GT in a Mac Pro, or GeForce 8800 GS in an iMac. The older gen Radeon 2000 series cards aren't too bad either.
    • rebotfc, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Because a 360/ps3 controller is better than a mouse & keyboard?
    • bjs3171, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1"you wouldn't already bought it for the 360/ps3 that you obviously have enough money to own."

      you're a ***** jackass.
    • Mazrin67, on 07/07/2008, -0/+0Heh, yeah, they do. Macs can be great gaming machines.

      Problem is, it's a lot more expensive.

      Also, the operating system has some small differences here and there that hurt (low end) gaming. For example, when I used to pay WoW on my macbook, I had to use bootcamp, since the integrated graphics card is restricted in OSX (64mb?), while in XP I could devote lots of system RAM to it (256mb or something). I got about 35-45 FPS in XP, about 15-25 FPS in OSX for this reason. Not sure if there are similar things that hurt high end gaming. But it terms of graphics cards and stuff, you could easily get the power for something like Cod 4. (sorry if my numbers are wrong or my explanation isn't perfect, It's my basic understanding. Feel free to correct me, if i said something wrong.)

      Moral of the story: I'll be buying a PC for spore/sc2/d3. Not sure if I'll sell the macbook or not.
    • blorc, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1You can order an iMac with a 512MB 8800GS. That should be more than enough to play it. The standard card is a 256MB ATI 2600 HD, which I'm sure can play it, although at reduced settings.
    • freebird09, on 07/07/2008, -0/+0Hard to beat the multiplayer setup that the pc has. Superior to the console versions IMHO.
    • 1nhuman, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1I think so. I already run the Windows XP version CoD4 on my Macbook pro 17". Runs fine.

      My specs are:
      4 gb RAM
      2.5 Ghz Core2duo Penryhn
      200 gig 7200 RPM hdd (dont know the make)
      NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT 512 MB

    • 1nhuman, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Runs fine on my Macbook Pro 17" which has:

      200 GB 7200 RPM hard-drive
      4 GB RAM
      NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT 512 MB RAM
      2.5 Ghz C2Duo Phenryn
    • saxreturns, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Depends on the Mac I suppose. I think the newest iteration of Intel Macs with Nvidia cards will definitely be good enough. Mine is an early Intel with an ATi x1600 mobile card which is pretty good, but will probably be borderline.
    • digggggggggg, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1So true, I already got it for the ps3, so I wouldn't bother buying another copy.
    • jelloburn, on 07/07/2008, -0/+0I run CoD4 on my 1st Gen Intel 17" iMac under Vista and it runs fine. It has a 128 MB Radeon x1600 which is enough power to run it with most of the features on. I would imagine newer iMacs and Mac Pros would have no issues with it.
    • boobyman, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Have you ever heard of the MacPro? :)
    • supaklaw, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1A Mac Pro with 4 Gb of dual channel DDR2 RAM and an Nvidia GT 8800... which already handled Crysis on max settings no prob in bootcamp XP 64 bit. Trust me, CoD4 won't be an issue. Most ppl using bootcamp even on Intel iMacs running PC CoD4 didn't seem to have any problems.

      PS Most PCs people own aren't "designed for gaming" unless you're talking Alienware stuff, which run into the same price range as Macs. The average desktop PC simply has enough RAM and VRAM, and in fact are more likely to run with Vista installed.
    • dizavin, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1to be perfectly honest? yes. some models of the Mac lineup have amazing graphics cards. I have a Powermac G5 and even though my video card is about 4 years old now, it came out with an ATi Raedon X800 XT, AGP card that had 256 MB of video memory and hardware acceleration. kinda normal fare these days, but in 2004, that was screaming.

      and nowadays? you can outfit a Mac Pro with an Nvidia Quadro FX 5600. I mean, jesus, that thing comes with a gig and a half of video memory. and the consumer lineup can do it, too. the iMac and MacBook Pro can be bought with a Nvidia card that pops a 512 MB card.

      it's not an issue of wether the Mac can run a game, it's a question of the developer MAKING a version for the mac. Macs are often used in hollywood movies for graphics, editing and are also often used for the CG you love so much in your video games. point in case: the PowerMac I own was bought from Electronic Arts as a devkit.


    • ddfall, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Yes, some Mac's do have some decent video cards. If you have a Mac Mini or a Macbook / Macbook Air you're screwed however a Mac Pro / Macbook Pro / and iMac all have decent video cards. For example my new iMac has an Nvidia 8800 GT with 512mb of dedicated video memory. Yes, it plays Crysis (in Windows / Boot Camp of course).
    • Aadain, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1My MacBook Pro has a Nvidia 8600M GT with 512MB of RAM. It is not the best video card on the planet, but neither is it crappy or incapable of running high end 3D games. I just can't ratchet every setting up to 100%, more like 75%, which is just fine for mobile gaming :)
    • InsaneOni, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Why would I want CoD4 for PS3 when I can play it on my computer w/ a keyboard and mouse?
    • ensert13, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1my iMac has a NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS with 512MB memory which is entirely capable of playing Call of duty 4, but I already purchased it for my 360 about 6 months ago so I am going to just stick with that
  • Sil369, on 07/07/2008, -13/+2coduo > cod4
  • peterb518, on 07/07/2008, -7/+45Cool, now mac users can pay twice as much for the game when they can just use boot camp!

    Seriously, the price for mac games is pretty ridiculous. Can someone explain why the price for the original SW: Battlefront is $40 for mac and $10 for windows? Dumb!

    • benologist, on 07/07/2008, -3/+27Two reasons come to mind:
      1) It's new on Mac so you're charged like it's a new game
      2) There's a smaller market to absorb the costs and make a profit from (really a subset of a smaller market since I would think Mac game players would be dual booting already and have the PC version?)
    • Suzuka09, on 07/07/2008, -1/+10I think its a ciderized port to, so its really a load of bull
      • Kelmon, on 07/07/2008, -0/+4Unlikely. The Call of Duty series has already been ported to the Mac (even PowerPC machines) and Aspyr so far as done "proper" ports of PC games rather than Cider ports, like EA. It's certainly possible that CoD4 will be a Cider port but since Aspyr has no history of this yet, I don't think this is likely. This release will likely be Intel-only simply because the older PowerPC systems won't have the grunt to run it, much like Quake 4.
    • chillypacman, on 07/07/2008, -15/+6mac users think they're better because they pay more for things, ergo they are gullible enough to fool by charging them over inflated prices for old games.
      • MacParrot, on 07/07/2008, -1/+5As a Mac user I don't think I'm better than a Windows user...just better than you.
      • chillypacman, on 07/08/2008, -1/+1@ MacParrot

        Yes, you've also paid at least 40% more than I have for your computer...
    • bradd12, on 07/07/2008, -1/+15You know, not all mac users have Boot Camp, or want to pay the money and take up the space to buy and install XP or Vista on their computers. This is a great deal for people, like myself, who own an Apple and want to play it on their computer.
      • iMike360, on 07/07/2008, -12/+6Pirate Bay for XP.
      • calon9, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2If you already have a copy of XP (like I did) or can get/buy one then bootcamp is definitely worth it. Many games ported to Mac don't run as well as the original versions; It all depends on the quality/experience of the external studio doing the porting and the budget the original developer allocated for it.

        Of course the downside with bootcamp is that as more people choose it to play games on their macs, less people will buy the mac versions, and less games will be ported over or made for mac.
    • ferrariman60, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2Well, the price of Mac hardware upgrades is pretty ridiculous too, so it all works out as far as I'm concerned.

      Seriously though, think about the people who have to be paid to turn the game into something that runs on a Mac. That's why it costs so much.
    • cadmiumpaint, on 07/07/2008, -8/+3Most mac users don't want anything related to microsoft on their computers..esp XP even if its through Bootcamp.
      • MacParrot, on 07/07/2008, -0/+8Many Mac users have no problem with Microsoft which is why MS still makes MS Office for the Mac. You know, because it's what a lot of Mac users want and will pay for?

        I have XP running through VMware and enjoy HL2 occasionally (along with other Windows-only programs). When I'm done, it's back to OS X which is my preference not my religion
      • clockdist, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Most Mac users have a job, and, of course, they have to use XP at work.
        I have nothing against MS, I just like having options. MS' strangle-hold on the industry makes choices very limited for the enterprise.
        That's never good.
    • samfishercell, on 07/07/2008, -0/+4Mmmm yes, boot camp delivered some tasty, tasty Bioshock to me last year.
  • lebsoljah, on 07/07/2008, -30/+98In other news: Windows runs all commercial PC games

    Mac fanboys will rejoice all they want but it's not news for me

    GTA 4 on PC is news for me
    • aussieNickuss, on 07/07/2008, -5/+26Same. Come forth GTA4 for PC! What's up with Rockstar's delay between console and PC releases?
      • Dan11023, on 07/07/2008, -21/+1M$ payed $50 mill for DLC for 360 this fall.... they would want to move as many 360s as they can and *****. put 2 and 2 together and then u see M$ steals money directly from their consumers.

        sony always wins baby, sony always wins.
        you cant beat sony.
      • aussieNickuss, on 07/07/2008, -0/+6But there was also a massive delay with San Andreas......which didn't have downloadable content (or did it?).
      • mushoo, on 07/07/2008, -0/+4It did, but it was user generated.
      • xino, on 07/07/2008, -1/+8@aussieNickus None of the GTAs had any downloadable content on the consoles.

        @dan11023 Microsoft never took my money without my permission. If that happened to you, you really should press charges. Also, you say Sony always wins. I wasn't aware that X360 getting exclusive content was a win for Sony.
      • ferrariman60, on 07/07/2008, -2/+13Christ, Dan, you're an idiot.

        I can't tell if this is all ironic, sarcastic kind of stuff, but you seem like a huge moron. First: only douches still use "M$" to say "Microsoft." I can do that too, $ony. Second: You keep making those retarded comments about "360 > POOP > WII > PS TRIPLE", and you refuse to change it. Everyone knows you're saying the 360 is the best, lol, but you don't seem to be catching on. Now, maybe you're not a retard, but you sure seem like one.
      • kendals, on 07/07/2008, -1/+3You tools all pirate PC games- what's the rush for Rockstar?
    • thecwin, on 07/07/2008, -3/+14Fair enough. This news may not be important to you, so just ignore the article. It was fairly obvious from the title that it wouldn't interest you. What exactly do you expect to appear in the "Apple" section of digg?
    • BedPost, on 07/07/2008, -5/+2It's not that great. I beat the campaign and haven't touched it since.
      • wonkavsn, on 07/07/2008, -1/+7Multiplayer is where the magic happens.
      • BoonTobias, on 07/07/2008, -1/+4who plays cod for campaign? n00b
      • BedPost, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1I was referring to GTA. If you believe the multi in GTA is "where the magic happens", all I have to say to you is - you can't run while you aim. It is the most infuriating thing EVER.
    • Chirp08, on 07/07/2008, -1/+8Why are you even posting in this story if you obviously don't have a mac?
    • bigpixl, on 07/07/2008, -1/+4I'd stop reading the Apple section.
      There isn't much PC news in here, I'm afraid.
  • Pliep, on 07/07/2008, -9/+23This was news last month on Aspyr's site: http://www.aspyr.com/software/news/88/222
    It has been delayed to Q3.

    I'm sorry, but Mac users should no longer put up with games coming out months and months after the PC version.
    • Suzuka09, on 07/07/2008, -2/+7I blame Aspyr, not only do they make crappy ports, but they delay EVERYTHING
      • chillypacman, on 07/07/2008, -5/+3I blame apple, not only do they not support their hardware properly but blame EVERYTHING on other people.

        not aspyrs fault the mac has faulty drivers, mostly under powered hardware and a salesman for a CEO.
    • tidu, on 07/07/2008, -4/+7I disagree I think Mac users (myself included) should move to the system games are made for if that's what they want to do (PC).
      • Radan, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1I have completely given up Mac gaming for my Xbox360. It's just ridiculous to have to wait 6-12 months to later have to pay MORE for a game which has twice the system requirements (remember, this is on a platform which isn't even designed for gaming) and half the features (no map editor, no mods, even no multiplayer sometimes e.t.c) as the PC-version has. This is, of course, if the game gets released at all.
      • sarchosis, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2So install Bootcamp. The hardware is the same.
    • hartley, on 07/07/2008, -1/+6I blame gamers not buying enough Macs.
    • ferrariman60, on 07/07/2008, -2/+4I disagree, your sense of game entitlement is amusing given the fact that Apple has been uncooperative with companies in the past that are trying to get games to Macs. The biggest? Valve. When Valve comes and says they have interest in releasing Steam for your OS, you don't ignore them unless you don't want games on your OS. I also blame apple for having hardware that is expensive and difficult (impossible?) to upgrade unless you buy a mac pro.
      • Kelmon, on 07/07/2008, -1/+3Somewhat inaccurate. When you say "Apple has been uncooperative with companies in the past that are trying to get games to Macs", what you mean is that they wouldn't pay the company to develop the game (i.e. the Steam engine) for the Mac. Apple hasn't had to pay the likes of id, Epic or Blizzard to develop games for the Mac, so why should Valve expect a kickback? Just do it like everyone else.

        I'll also note that it's quite clear that Apple doesn't care that much about gaming in the way that PC gamers seem to want them too, and that's fine. If you particularly want to be able to swap the graphics card in your computer then clearly a Mac is not for you and that situation is not likely to change any time soon. Since gaming isn't very important I don't see any reason why Apple should have to change its hardware designs to cater to a niche market that will whinge about the prices anyway.
      • piwy, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Aspyr managed just fine to make their version of a games hub for the mac. If i'm not mistaken valve asked for money to do it. Even as a gamer i see no reason why apple should do such a stupid thing.
      • victorc26, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1@Kelmon

        Hence why us, the niche gaming market, aren't serious about using Macs exclusively. A Windows will always be the gaming platform in the PC market if things continue the way they have been.

        You have to realize, we (Like most people in the Digg community and other net communities), ARE part of the niche market. Joe blow gamer does not debate in an online forum about platform pros and cons.

        Both sides here are sort of preaching to the choir.

        Not to say that Macs aren't capable of enriching a large gaming platform (The OS has the framework, but the low end hardware [in the Apple hierarchy, everything below the Mac Pro]) just needs a video card upgrade path. The way things are right now, it's clear both platforms have their purposes set at the moment. Apple is a company that looks for the bottom line after all, as well as Microsoft.
  • peestandingup, on 07/07/2008, -3/+7Well, seeing that all the others were on Mac too, is this really a surprise??
  • KRNpro, on 07/07/2008, -40/+32How would you zoom in when there is no right click?
    • Suzuka09, on 07/07/2008, -10/+26are you still stuck in the 90s?
    • ruddy, on 07/07/2008, -14/+3instincts. If you use a mac, you can no-scope them. it's called... the iScope
      • etherreal, on 07/07/2008, -6/+5And it will cost you $90 with AppleCare.
    • gmoney1, on 07/07/2008, -3/+23there is right click.
    • aussieNickuss, on 07/07/2008, -1/+9Is my sarcasometer being accurate?
    • superkendall, on 07/07/2008, -5/+3You use the left-left click.
    • AshamedAmerican, on 07/07/2008, -10/+15Um yeah actually Macs DO have right click. Guess that shows how uninformed you are.
      • grock900, on 07/07/2008, -12/+7yeah with an external mouse, otherwise you're f'ed
      • MonkeyFarts, on 07/07/2008, -4/+8grock: Even Apple's own Mighty Mouse has a right-click, so no, you're not "f'ed" if you don't have an "external" (read: third-party) mouse. And FYI, the trackpads on their notebook lines all support two-finger tapping for a right-click. You seem to be about a decade behind the times here.
      • killtrocity, on 07/07/2008, -3/+8And you plan on playing CoD4 on your laptop PC using its trackpad? Don't be foolish.
      • MonkeyFarts, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2Um, I never said that, or even came close to implying it. I'm simply saying it for the sake of grok's knowledge because he's clearly clueless.
      • Detritus, on 07/07/2008, -3/+2I love that your name is AshamedAmerican. In that single line of text that starts with your name there is not a single dry spot from your flood of pretension.
      • smoger, on 07/07/2008, -4/+1the mighty mouse is ***** and the clicks and scroll wheel are very inconsistent. not suitable for gaming whatsoever
    • XXXXXXXXXXXXXX, on 07/07/2008, -6/+14My iMac has a right click, but it's retarded as hell since it only works 75% of the time for me.
      • Jrwhite8, on 07/07/2008, -1/+6Won't work if your index finger is resting on the left button.
      • Kelmon, on 07/07/2008, -3/+2Yup, the Mighty Mouse is fundamentally flawed in terms of its righty-click implementation. Contrary to Jrwhite8's comment, simply ensuring that another finger is not resting on the left-hand side of the mouse is not sufficient to guarantee a successful right-click. I returned my Wireless Mighty Mouse because this function is effectively broken, although in my case I'd suggest the right-click worked about 90% of the time.
      • MacParrot, on 07/07/2008, -0/+5Well, you could do what I do (since I think the Mighty Mouse sucks and prefer trackballs anyway) and buy a different USB mouse that has nearly any feature (yes Virginia, even right-click) you can use.

        Or are you really going to claim the Dell's mouse is the bees knees and the be-all to end-all when it comes to mice?
    • ruddy, on 07/07/2008, -2/+9Ctrl - BoomHeadshot!
      /FPS iDoug
    • conorkirk, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2To be honest, seeing as I haven't really looked into older Macs, which is where this no gaming seems to come from...

      I did not know there were Macs without right click, and I bought my Macbook Pro for gaming. I use crossover games.

      You learn something everyday! :D
      • ferrariman60, on 07/07/2008, -3/+4You bought a Macbook Pro. Which doesn't have right click built in. And didn't know there were macs without right click? like the one you own? That's the whole one button thing. Am I missing the joke?
      • arcticblue, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2Yes, Macbook Pros do have right click built in; it's just not a physical button. There are 3 ways to do right-clicking on a Macbook. 1. Tap with two fingers. 2. Put two fingers on the trackpad and then push the button. 3. Get an external mouse. You're crazy if you game with a trackpad anyway (and that goes for any laptop).
      • MacParrot, on 07/07/2008, -2/+1@ferrariman60
        No you're not missing the joke. You'll see it every day when you're old enough to shave.
    • CheatRZ, on 07/07/2008, -0/+8They do have the ability to right click, yes. Unfortunately the 'mighty mouse' sucks so much ass, you can't hold a right click and press a left click at the same time (zoom + fire).
    • Angostura, on 07/07/2008, -0/+4NIcely trolled!
    • Radan, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Well, if you for some reason would be playing the game on a Macbook Pro without mouse, most games uses the command-button (the button which is situated about where your Windows-button is) for simulating right-click.
    • Yasihiko, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3What a freaking noob. Seriously. "Right Click"? That argument no longer applies.
  • M3mphist0, on 07/07/2008, -3/+8Glad to see the long running tradition of old games ported to the mac continues... shame.
    • HappyScrappy, on 07/07/2008, -1/+4They have to wait for Apple to ship a machine with a video card equivalent to what PCs had when the game came out.
  • dubey, on 07/07/2008, -9/+95Call of Duty 5 Coming to PC!
    • JuanBSU, on 07/07/2008, -10/+1...in 2025
    • sinfony, on 07/07/2008, -1/+11Or, you know, next year.

      (I am aware of the existence of Call of Duty: World at War. We all know it's not really CoD5.)
      • wondertwins, on 07/07/2008, -0/+5He's just saying that another Call of Duty game is coming out soon while the previous CoD game is just coming out for the Mac.
  • pigducksheep, on 07/07/2008, -5/+4I've got it on console, but it's always good when there are mac games. Really the only thing good we have is WoW.
    • ruddy, on 07/07/2008, -23/+9WoW's good? no wonder you like macs. you're clearly a homosexual.
  • qbthemc, on 07/07/2008, -7/+8Boooooooooooooooooo.
  • Ex3poo, on 07/07/2008, -2/+21A little late :-/
  • iamghost, on 07/07/2008, -64/+79People who buy MAC are too busy playing with Steve Job's balls to care.
    • Dan11023, on 07/07/2008, -11/+1What do you mean by "too bad"?
    • iamghost, on 07/07/2008, -4/+16i erased that and i have poor grammar
    • MonkeyFarts, on 07/07/2008, -2/+27I don't understand. Who buys Media Access Control?
    • digggggggggg, on 07/07/2008, -2/+8Who is "Steve Job" and why should we play with his balls?
  • ds|tan, on 07/07/2008, -7/+4Oh lawd...
  • Dillywin, on 07/07/2008, -9/+3That would be cool if this game actually was fun.
    I just love games where i randomly throw grenades and kill a group of people
    then randomly fire my gun because i think a guy could be hiding there only to see my crosshair confirm a hit so i keep shooting and kill him

    oh wait he was behind a wall
    • Solsies, on 07/07/2008, -3/+9So let me get this straight... you're a bad player.
  • Dan11023, on 07/07/2008, -14/+3this kinda makes me wanna buy a mac
  • batmanz, on 07/07/2008, -11/+5Games? On a Mac??!?!?
    • Vermifax, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1Yep. Also, Bill Clinton is no longer President.
  • bbombassei, on 07/07/2008, -16/+41TF2 is better
  • inetiatic, on 07/07/2008, -8/+19Now if we can convince Valve to port to MAC..
    • Suzuka09, on 07/07/2008, -6/+2Runs fine on Crossover
    • inetiatic, on 07/07/2008, -0/+10Nothing is better than a native run game..
    • WhoDoneIt, on 07/07/2008, -1/+17Don't Mac users realize that you can't call it a MAC? It's Mac, as in Macintosh. Not MACintosh.
      • freshyill, on 07/07/2008, -3/+8Windows douches are raised from birth to believe that every three-letter word is an acronym.
    • Kelmon, on 07/07/2008, -1/+8Valve will port the Steam engine to the Mac, but only if Apple pays them to do it. Apple, correctly, have told Valve to go hang. The Mac continues to need the likes of MS Office and Adobe Photoshop to survive, so those companies could request payment to continue development, but the Mac does not need gaming. Given that other companies will develop for the Mac without requesting kickbacks, I don't know who Valve thinks they are.
      • BobOki, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1Valve will revisit Mac when they find out that they could double their income programing games in OpenGL, which would open them to the linux and Mac community. Currently, Directx is only pc and with dx10, there is no longer a reason to stay locked into it.
      • victorc26, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3Well, Valve has the biggest online game store on the internet. That's who Valve is.

        And Steam isn't an engine, it's the name of their online store. Source is their engine (Used to make Half-Life 2, TF2, Counter Strike: Source, etc). If they were to port Steam over to the Mac, they would also have to persuade and help every other developer to port their games over to the Mac and Linux platform. There's a reason why they want money. It's a big project to make an online store fully compatible with another platform when most of your store's offerings are provided by other developers with their own budgets.
      • Kelmon, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1@victorc26

        Doh! Sorry, my bad. For some reason I keep confusing Steam and Source with each other. Anyway, I was referring to the Source engine rather than Steam. As you note, trying to get Steam ported so that all the games they offer via the store also work on the Mac would be a big ask, and probably not something that Valve can control anyway.
  • ruddy, on 07/07/2008, -15/+78you know who the apple users are cuz the convo will sound like this...

    "omg omg omg, i just shot someone! i'm gonna post this on my blog! "
    • virtualball, on 07/07/2008, -4/+36Dude, don't be a dick. It's actually "omg omg omg, I just shot someone! I'm going to make an iMovie about it and then upload it to my twitter!"
      • Fubarepublic, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2Omg Omg Omg! I want teh podcast!
  • grock900, on 07/07/2008, -7/+33Prepare to be ipwned by the smuggest people online, and you thought xbox live was bad
    • MonkeyFarts, on 07/07/2008, -5/+10They can't possibly be even half as annoying as some of the people I've seen online playing the game on the 360/PC. Or half as annoying as some of the people commenting on this story simply for the sake of trolling. "zomg macs have games but no right click lololol"
  • Protoss, on 07/07/2008, -7/+2Probably another half-assed Cider port, like Spore.
  • grock900, on 07/07/2008, -7/+4didn't know a macbook could run it
  • halfchub900, on 07/07/2008, -3/+4I love my mac and all, it's great for everything except for gaming. When i heard about COD4 coming to mac in January, it was supposed to be released in May. Aspyr keeps pushing the damn thing back that by the time it comes out COD5 will be out. And worst yet, I doubt Aspyr is up for supporting PC-Mac connectivity and providing timely updates to enable this interaction. Just sad...

    this is actually why I am ordering parts for a gaming pc tomorrow
  • Murrabbit, on 07/07/2008, -14/+44This just in: A big-name game is actually releasing for Mac! Reports say that some of the notoriously over-priced under-performing machines will actually even be able to run it!

    "We've been dreaming of this moment ever since we got a 2nd mouse button" commented a dedicated Mac brand loyalist standing in line outside of Manhattan's flagship Apple store, waiting to buy a G3iPhone set to release sometime this year.
    • nmanguy, on 07/07/2008, -1/+8Dugg for the second mouse button comment.
    • vtnerd, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3I wish I could double-digg you Murrabbit....
    • Pliep, on 07/07/2008, -4/+1The Mac OS has supported dual-button mice for ever. Out of the box, never any driver installs for any brand or type USB mouse. It's just that they included a one-button mouse in the box. Windows-lusers don't seem to understand that this forces developers to think about usability and not put endless "features" underneath the 2nd button.
      • Ducttape21, on 07/07/2008, -1/+7It is commonly used to throw grenades. What does Apple have against grenade throwing out of the box?
      • bjs3171, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2the only thing ever assigned to a second mouse button is an options menu. sure, you can plug in a normal mouse. you know, the kind that every other computer manufacturer in the world produces, but the lack of a second button on my laptop's trackpad is really ***** annoying. sometime's it's easier to hit the second button than to hold down cntrl. and btw, it's spelled "losers". grow up.
      • freebird09, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2Actually it is usually used to aim down the sight, but Apple is a firm believer in the "spray'n'pray" policy, so there's no need for a second button.
      • infernal6, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2You know, on a mac trackpad, you can just set a two finger tap to function as right click. It works great for me, and I am glad my trackpad doesn't have a physical second mouse button.
      • Acolyte357, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1Sweet, now play an fps like that infernal6.
    • Chirp08, on 07/07/2008, -2/+6Underperforming? are you ***** serious?
    • jerkmonkey, on 10/03/2008, -0/+0Call of Duty 4 isnt the only "big-name" game thats being released on mac

      But hey, I guess there's people out there that haven't heard of any games called Doom 3, Unreal Tournament, Quake 4, Age of Empires, or even World of Warcraft.
  • manlykitty, on 07/07/2008, -2/+52COD4! But I'm still playing Photoshop CS3
  • freaky2k, on 07/07/2008, -11/+5Murrabbit said it perfectly:

    "This just in: A big-name game is actually releasing for Mac! Reports say that some of the notoriously over-priced under-performing machines will actually even be able to run it!

    "We've been dreaming of this moment ever since we got a 2nd mouse button" commented a dedicated Mac brand loyalist standing in line outside of Manhattan's flagship Apple store, waiting to buy a G3iPhone set to release sometime this year."



    Ps. Seriously, why did it take SOooo many years and years for Mac to figure out a two-button mouse was convenient and needed? On a double-note, STILL not all macs come with double-button mouse...just the option.
    • mrburgundy, on 07/07/2008, -2/+9you know, if you pressed reply you wouldn't have to quote him. everyone would already understand that you are putting in some input on his comment. e-mail me if you still don't quite understand, because you obviously don't get it.
  • salvadorwii, on 07/07/2008, -8/+116mac: hi, im a mac
    pc: and im a pc
    mac: hey i got this new game call of duty 4
    pc: it has been out since november
    mac: *****...

    /ad
    • BedPost, on 07/07/2008, -4/+27mac wasn't pretentious enough
    • iofthestorm, on 07/07/2008, -6/+13I really wish Microsoft would do some ads like that so the fanboys would shut the ***** up. But of course if they did people would scream "monopolists!" or some such *****.
      • misfit410, on 07/07/2008, -2/+9same here, it would look like this
        http://www.shadesofme.net/pics/macvspc.jpg

        especially when you can no build a Q6600 Quad core system with an HD4850, 2G RAM,160G HD for around $700 from the ground up.
      • Philmer, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3I wish things would cost the same in Europe.
      • iofthestorm, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2Yeah misfit, every time I see a "PC gaming is too expensive OMFG" I usually post a similar build, although how'd you fit a Q6600 in there? No case, or cheap case and PSU? Even when I'm posting cheap builds to refute console/Mac noobs, I use Antec cases and PSUs because if the PSU is bad other stuff could break, and Antec cases with PSUs are pretty reasonably priced. I'm partial to the Antec Sonata III, midtower with 500W Antec Earthwatts PSU built in.
    • Zaggynl, on 07/07/2008, -1/+6Thank you xD
    • AvidPreatorian, on 07/07/2008, -7/+2i've played COD4 on my Mac since November. YAWNNN
  • GeneralFailure0, on 07/07/2008, -9/+7@Dan11023
    Microsoft steals money from consumers because they pay to secure the rights to exclusive extra content? It's your choice whether you buy something from them or not, they don't steal your money. Sure, Microsoft is a corporation interested mostly in profit, but so is every other corporation. Find something better to complain about.
    • virtualball, on 07/07/2008, -2/+8New comment system: It's actually exactly a year old.
      • iofthestorm, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Not to mention replies existed for a longer time, just not nested ones.
  • isiah1, on 07/07/2008, -8/+3Jesus, you all sound like a bunch of MCSE wannabes
  • Chainheart, on 07/07/2008, -4/+8I'm only familiar with PC hardware so this is a serious question: How will it run it?
    • conorkirk, on 07/07/2008, -12/+3Intel Core 2 duo. nVidia 8 series graphics cards. AMD Radeon HD series graphics, 2 or more gigs of ram, etc.

      You know, the standard stuff in a Mac.
      • Ducttape21, on 07/07/2008, -3/+10It runs easily on my $500 PC, how much does it cost to run on a Mac?
    • Kelmon, on 07/07/2008, -2/+4In much the same way as an PC or console runs it. I'm sorry, but does that answer your question or are you looking for something more in-depth?
    • Chainheart, on 07/07/2008, -1/+9I meant how well.
    • SuminderJi, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2Most Macs actually have a decent graphics card in them. Given their not nearly as powerful as the new 9800's and only one 8800 series works I believe on the Mac (something to do with the voltage and such on their PCI-e)

      I'm not nearly as informed so please correct me if I'm wrong.

      ...oh and perspective. My HP laptop runs CoD4 on mainly medium settings just fine. No lag or anything.

    • pantone286, on 07/07/2008, -1/+2Unless you have a mac pro, like a constipated three legged dog.
  • bensone1, on 07/07/2008, -0/+6hey lets hope that its not a ***** port version like bf: 2142 and all the other ea games
  • Gatchaman, on 07/07/2008, -2/+7But how are the graaaaphicss??
  • ghostcat, on 07/07/2008, -16/+10"Wah wah wah. Macs are expensive. Macs don't get good games." You know, I used to be a die-hard home-built pc user. I scorned macs, and laughed at the premium price people paid for slower machines. Then Macs got Intel chips and some of their models were even reasonably priced. Then Microsoft shat out Vista... Having to reboot to play games is a small price to pay to not have to deal with that nightmare on a regular basis.
    • LMN8R, on 07/07/2008, -6/+10And if you spent half as much on PC hardware (or even a PC from Dell) as you did on that Mac, instead of trying to run Vista on ***** old hardware that wouldn't even be able to run OSX, Vista would be smooth as silk.

      I've been running Vista for more than a year on a 3-4 year old Opteron dual core, 2GB of ***** DDR PC2700 ram, and an old 7900GS, and it runs smoother and more stable than XP ever did. The only ***** complaints I ever read about Vista are people who try to run it on old hardware.

      You know, hardware that would chug on OS X too.
      • natastna2, on 07/07/2008, -2/+3I tried Vista fairly recently and found it be a massive pile of *****. I built a gaming PC from a Q6600, 8800GT etc. not old hardware and it just kept blue screening. Even though Vista drivers existed for my network card, it just wouldn't accept it. Then after uninstalling my sound card to install new drivers, it kept on tellign me that it was already installed and wouldn't let me install it again. So I went back to XP service pack 3 and haven't had a problem since. In my experience and honest opinion, ***** Vista.
      • ghostcat, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1My old computer was no slouch. It was a 2.6 ghtz Opteron with 2 gigs of ram and a 6800GT. Not brand new, no, but well within the Vista specs. I didn't complain that it ran slow either. My problem was with the bugs. Network transfers taking 10x as long as they did with XP. Poor ass Nvidia driver support that didn't fix overscan at 1080P... lots of little things that really put me off the product. Yes, they have probably gone back and fixed some of these problems, but they still shipped a ***** product. And when I bought it, my Mac Pro cost $50 less than a comparably equipped Dell XPS. I still have my old machine hooked up to my tv as a media center, but you can bet that it's running XP.
    • WhoDoneIt, on 07/07/2008, -4/+11Sorry to say it, but you obviously suck at building your own PC's. If you've had that many problems you might start to think out of the box and look at the real culprit, you.

      I've owned both systems for a long time and I've had just as many problems with my PC as I've had with my Mac. And no, I'm not playing Minesweeper on my PC.
      • ghostcat, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Did I list problems? Do you have any idea what they are? No. You just assume. I was running it on a 2.4 ghtz opteron with 2 gigs of ram and a Nvidia 6800GT. Well within the recommended Vista specs. It didn't have any problems running, it was just full of bugs. It was dog slow with network transfers, had multiple Nvidia driver issues, etc. Yes, some of the bugs have been fixed since then, but they released a ***** incomplete product, and I wasn't willing to wait for them to get their act together. You shouldn't be so quick to assume that everyone is a moron.
      • humbled, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1Actually, the network transfer problem was a known issue with Vista that isn't fully remedied yet AFAIK - they released a patch that supposedly fixed it, but for many it didn't. As for the Nvidia driver issue, I have no idea. But ghostcat is making perfectly valid complaints of real problems that could affect anyone. To be fair, the Nvidia driver problem is Nvidia's fault, and not Vista.
    • FredFredrickson, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1The only people who complain so loudly about Vista are the people who haven't used it yet.
  • Dustin00, on 07/07/2008, -2/+6And you know which games to get cuz you've played them all at your friends house on his PC!
  • KurtangleTN, on 07/07/2008, -6/+25Lol at the guy thinking he can play CoD4 on a Macbook
    • hungryduck, on 07/07/2008, -1/+3You probably could at very low settings. The intel X3100 Integrated graphics are not too bad actually.
      • smoger, on 07/07/2008, -3/+1i can't even play Spore creature creator on my macbook. no way cod4 is working on it. your comment is insane.
      • mickael1, on 07/07/2008, -0/+5Spore creature creator runs on a macbook by the way.
  • Shiftgood, on 07/07/2008, -1/+12why is this story such a blabbering idiot magnet?
  • M724, on 07/07/2008, -4/+6It's good to see that games like CoD4 are coming to Mac.
  • nzhamstar, on 07/07/2008, -6/+5This is awesome?! Don't you guys see how this is awesome?!

    If they are willing to develop for mac maybe they will bring it in for LINUX!!!

    Last time I heard, Mac and Linux's underpinnings were not so different. Is that so now?
    • Kelmon, on 07/07/2008, -0/+4The underpinnings aren't that different such that UNIX tools can be ported pretty easily to the Mac, but the stuff above the OS foundations is different. Whether that makes much difference for porting Call of Duty 4 to Linux distributions, however, I cannot say.
      • MasteRR, on 07/07/2008, -0/+4They both use OpenGL, so that part is done at least.
      • mauleriscool, on 07/07/2008, -2/+1only problem is punkbuster on linux does not work
      • tapo, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3PB works on Linux, a lot of Linux games use it, and Quake Wars comes to mind as a recent one.
    • nzhamstar, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2Well we definitely need more linux games...
  • BlackCow, on 07/07/2008, -5/+11I would much rather hear "CoD4 coming to Linux". I mean they are both Unix like and similar right?
    • MasteRR, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3They also both use OpenGL, so they can't use the whole "It's only programmed for DirectX" excuse that so many devs use now a days.
      • FredFredrickson, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1It came out for PS3, so it's obviously not a DX-only game.
  • waynechng, on 07/07/2008, -2/+12In other news, "Duke Nukem Forever" coming to Mac too ...
    • Midou, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3After it comes out for PC in a few years, Mac might see it in that time ^2, so maybe 300 years.
  • pirateandy, on 07/07/2008, -3/+12i posted this 23 days ago
    http://digg.com/pc_games/Call_of_Duty_4_for_Mac_Ha ...

    why is this finally getting so many diggs?
    • Barackalypse, on 07/07/2008, -1/+15Someone more popular than you posted it, thats how Digg works.
      • KingGorilla, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3Oh it's high school all over again
      • pnunn, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2No- in high school the popular people got laid once in a while...
    • Kelmon, on 07/07/2008, -1/+5If it helps, I buried this article for being both old news and blog spam. That said, I'd have done the same for yours since this was announced back in January.
      • pirateandy, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1yes and no, the news about cod4 for mac was announced back in january, but the date of it being pushed back was the reason I submitted it. if you would of actually read the article or even of read the title of the digg submission you would of known that.

        In fact, the announcement of it coming out Q3 was posted on June 3rd. So if you knew about it back in January you obviously can see into the future.
    • MasteRR, on 07/07/2008, -0/+4You are not in the digg top submitter clique, thats why.
      • Ortheos, on 07/07/2008, -2/+3So then whats the point? Why not just give the top 30 diggers the ability to submit new articles and take it away from everyone else?

        This is like American democracy. Anyone may vote for any article and submit their own but only the articles submitted by the Republican or Democrat user can even show up on the site, because the system is fundamentally broken.
      • MasteRR, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Whaaa whaa. It's BS I know. Don't like it? Good luck changing it.
      • freebird09, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1(plays finger violin)
    • Kanten, on 07/07/2008, -1/+3Because apparently Digg is in a god damn time loop this past week. First the ruler-hammer trick that is older than the internet. Then the "breaking news" that the perfect score in Pac Man was achieved, 9 years ago.
    • neko, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2Because... All your friends are laughing behind your back.



      KILL THEM
    • salvadorwii, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2because digg is a popularity contest
  • DarkPhoen1x, on 07/07/2008, -2/+3Mac fanboys: STFU
    Windows fanboys: STFU

    Go and play on your console/computer of choice and let the rest of the world decide what they want.
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