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CNet rates Vista one of "worst products in history"

crave.cnet.co.uk — CNet has named what they claim are the worst technology products in history. Probably the most controversial is the inclusion of Windows Vista which sits alongside the Sinclair C5, the Gizmondo and the Tamagotchi.

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  • LordSeth, on 11/26/2007, -176/+540Um I dont think Vista is that bad in fact I like Vista. What about Windows ME???? Im pretty sure that the majority of people who use vista dont think its that bad either. Its mostly all the idiots who have never used or tried for like 30 seconds and think they are experts. Wake up people!!!
  • chawkie, on 11/26/2007, -77/+434Vista hating seems to be the cool thing lately, but in all honesty as someone who has downgraded from Vista to XP, I understand why it has become such a target. Why would anyone want to sacrifice so much performance for so little benefits? And the price, $400 for the "complete" full OS, are you ***** kidding me?

    And to everyone who mentions the benefits of DX10, I want to direct your attention to games like Crysis, Bioshock and Gears of War that look exactly the ***** same with DX9 and some minor tweaks.

    Time for Microsoft to realize that just because they make something, doesn't mean that it is the end all and that it will be universally implemented.
  • draegs, on 11/26/2007, -106/+456"Not to mention its general pointlessness as an upgrade" ...CNet FTW.
  • ChrisTots, on 11/26/2007, -151/+485This just in: CNet tries to overcome its lack of relevance by bashing Microsoft.
  • Aksumka, on 11/26/2007, -10/+312Why the ***** is this under apple?
  • donnydarko, on 11/26/2007, -15/+228What! the tamagotchi was awesome
  • EnderMB, on 11/26/2007, -41/+179This just in. CNET attempt to get loads of visitors by tricking Digg by agreeing with the population that Vista is evil. Well played CNET.

    IMO, Vista is no worse than XP, and loads of people bitched about that until the first SP.
  • Carv, on 11/26/2007, -72/+179Didn't really need CNet to tell me that. But okay.
  • CraigJ, on 11/27/2007, -15/+115Exactly. Vista has a lot of new code under the hood, but as a user of the OS, there was no real benefit to upgrading. I use Vista and XP every day, and Vista doesn't do anything for me that XP doesn't do. It's not a bad operating system, but if you have a stable system running XP there really is no point to upgrading.
  • BigManOnCampus, on 11/26/2007, -21/+111The iphone *WAS NOT* an invention. It was an incremental step in the engineering of consumer electronics with a snazzy interface.
    Calling the iphone an invention is like calling a concept car an "invention"
  • Po0py, on 11/26/2007, -35/+125This is getting a bit ridiculous now. It's not a bad OS. Just not much of a leap from what XP was. I'm sick of all this Vista bashing. It's a solid OS and the vast majority of Vista users don't have problems with it. The occational whining Vista user seems to get more attention than all the people who are ok with it.
  • Po0py, on 11/27/2007, -23/+105It's an apple fanboy issue. Most Vista users are happy with their lot and don't give a ***** about this kind of story.
  • robbiekhan, on 11/26/2007, -40/+119Yeah and actual day to day users of Vista have no issues at all.
  • Torx, on 11/26/2007, -65/+139We all said the same thing about the transition from 98se to XP, give it a year or two and Vista will be on everyones computer.
  • KanosWRX, on 11/26/2007, -49/+120Uhm I don't think so. Leopard has given me more headaches on my Mac Book Pro then Vista. Talk about incompatible software and hardware, they can't even get it to work right and its their own damn hard ware. My fans won't go above 2000 rpm anymore causing my cpu to roast at 180 degrees. Not to mention networking being almost useless and old programs not working anymore.
  • Drahkar, on 11/27/2007, -27/+96Vista has a long way to go before it is actually an improvement off XP. There may be 'a lot under the hood' as you say, but it doesn't work very well and is extremely bloated in a resource usage area. The idea with developing new versions of something is to improve performance and add features, not make it more difficult to use and force consumers to buy even more powerful hardware to do the same thing as was done with the OS prior. Perhaps it will get better after they release SP1. Its hard to say, but I don't think it will. It is more likely that it will take some time before they have fixed a lot of the holes in Vista and once they finally do that it will take more time to see it adopted in any wipe spread fashion. A prime example of this is that all these games that were going to be DX10 only so were going to be Vista only are almost all being released with DX9 support so they can run on XP. That along with the Support Extension on XP and the general consensus that Vista has a ways to go before its considered an improvement says a lot.
  • Pr0cess, on 11/27/2007, -19/+78Ok come on am i the only one that doesnt have issue with vista? i mean really
  • Falldog, on 11/27/2007, -4/+60Because it's anti-Microsoft, duh.
  • louse101, on 11/26/2007, -21/+76Dude, practically all your comments are bashing something or someone.
  • louse101, on 11/26/2007, -42/+97As a single product, Vista is fine. Yeah it's costly, but it does a job. The problem is that it sits alongside XP which does most things so much better, despite being years older. Vista being classed as a "worst technology" is justified when it's compared with the many other OS's available.
  • Buckiller, on 11/26/2007, -40/+94I think that Vista deserves to be thrashed... I mean it was in development for so long and we get this pile?

    But yeah, ME was way more deserving.
  • fuzzynyanko, on 11/26/2007, -9/+62Vista beat Windows ME?
  • one2gamble, on 11/26/2007, -50/+100Thats just stupid "im going to jump on the bandwagon" bs from cnet.

    Vista isnt great but it isnt horrible either.
  • stopsucking, on 11/27/2007, -15/+64Sensationalize much? Vista has worked flawlessly on my computer for 8 months.
  • totorototoro, on 11/26/2007, -17/+66CNET's master strategy:
    1) Gain lots of clicks by attacking Microsoft Vista in CNET articles
    2) Mobilize CNET subsidiary ZDNet and their cadre of sycophantic Microsoft apologist bloggers to gain lots of clicks by defending Microsoft Vista.
    3)?
    4) Profit!!
  • Renuvian, on 11/27/2007, -10/+58I got Vista for $35 from my school store and I really have no complaints. I can understand not wanting to pay full price as I've really gained hardly anything, but I hardly consider it one of the "worst products in history." Thats a pretty gross exaggeration.
  • knomevol, on 11/27/2007, -19/+65vista could be the best thing to ever happen to linux!
  • blesbok, on 11/27/2007, -8/+49User error. If you can't get vista to run for more than 10 minutes, I promise it isn't the coding that is the problem seeing as millions of other people don't have that problem.

    Maybe your friend should stick to a ball and stick.
  • juicebag, on 11/27/2007, -5/+45oh no you didn't
  • halavais, on 11/27/2007, -10/+50And my XP install is pretty much rock solid. Why would I upgrade my hardware just so that it can perform at the same level with a new OS?
  • Chompy, on 11/26/2007, -130/+167It may visually resemble XP, but Vista does a lot under the hood. All CNET accomplishes with an article like this is advertising their own ignorance.
  • elvenseven, on 11/27/2007, -46/+83Worst product in history? How could this be possible. I've nothing but good things to say about the Vista Ultimate x64 I'm using. Coming from someone who uses it heavily; photoshop, flash, and gaming. 2GB RAM is all you need. Loads faster and friendlier than XP.
  • coheedcollapse, on 11/27/2007, -32/+66Yup. Vista is one of the most stable operating systems that I've ever worked with. Freshly installed on a new computer something around a half a year ago, I haven't had a single system crash. Sure there are a few pains here and there, but by no means is it as horrible as people are putting it out to be.
  • TheCheeks, on 11/27/2007, -9/+39As much as I hate Windows, the worst product in history? Comeon... there's a lot worse out there.
  • ewok85a, on 11/27/2007, -18/+47CNet seems to have a real thing against Vista, check out CNet front page stories for the last few months and its all saying that Vista sucks... hmmm...

    I'll be rolling out vista to 700 users in the next 3 months, and I'm not all that fussed... I don't get what the big deal is?
  • mrbutter, on 11/27/2007, -12/+39Yeah but it's Apple so they get a get out of jail free card.

    /sarcasm
  • Acqua206, on 11/27/2007, -2/+29What Intel giveth, Microsoft taketh away.
  • blesbok, on 11/27/2007, -17/+43No, it was a decremental step in engineering with a snazzy interface.

    I don't call a lack of 3g, push email, the ability to send text messages, the ability to install 3rd party programs without a crack, and a non-tactile keyboard an incremental step.
  • blesbok, on 11/27/2007, -10/+35I get better performance from vista. The improved prefetch does wonders.

    However, I agree that the price is a little ridiculous.
  • genepooldesign, on 11/27/2007, -11/+35I agree with LordSeth...I like Vista (after I turned user account control off). I have NEVER had a crash, never had problems with hardware or software compatibility, and I really like Flip 3D. I think most of the people who bitch and piss and moan about it are those who try to install it on an old PC or base their judgments purely on bad reviews in each others' blogs.


    Office on the other hand...that's an assload of cash to drop for a ***** word processor!
  • verifex, on 11/26/2007, -44/+68Simple pluses and minuses about Vista:
    +Vista adds some new visual features
    +Vista adds some new behind-the-scenes features
    +Vista adds some new user features
    -Vista degrades performance
    -Vista has driver compatibility issues
    -Vista has multimedia DRM built into the OS
    -Vista costs a lot of money
    -Not all programs work on Vista

    I don't know about most of you, but the negatives sure seem to outweigh the positives in terms of cost/value to me.
  • inactive, on 11/27/2007, -4/+27You're both morons. Vista's kernel runs noticably slower than XP for almost NO tangible benefit.

    If you find one that I give a damn about while playing Unreal, let me know, okay? How can an OS that's ***** slow for no real reason be "not that bad"? It's a DOWNGRADE, dimwit.

    It's a pile of *****, but at least I know one when I see one. (I have extensively tweaked it including services to try to optimize perfomance, too. Vista FAILS. Period. I do this for a living.)
  • Falldog, on 11/27/2007, -3/+25I think CNet is a bit upset that they couldn't manage to keep their Tamagotchi's alive. :(
  • markperia, on 11/27/2007, -7/+28I have been using Vista Home Premium x64 side by side with XP for about a month now and the only problem I can think of is that there isn't a lot of native 64 bit apps out there. Other than that I seem to be getting used to Vista and am liking it more than XP.

    And those who say whats the use of DX10 if gaming sucks in windows. Well I haven't seen any relevant drops in my performance and quality. Actually Crysis on Vista 64 actually performs better (all high settings on both).
  • dark_helmet, on 11/27/2007, -9/+30Vista was in development a lot less time than you might actually think. They first developed longhorn, the after several years of development, gave up and made vista. Vista wasn't over-developed it was rushed.
  • Namco, on 11/27/2007, -16/+37If the idea that the OS uses 40% of your RAM scares you, then readup on what prefetch is and get back to me.

    I agree that on an old system, it runs like crap. They should put "Core 2 Duo and 2GB RAM Required" on the side of the box. It's an efficient and visually amazing OS so far and I have very few complaints.
  • thedragon4453, on 11/27/2007, -1/+22I think that is the point. It shouldnt need to run on a core 2 quad with 4 gbs of ram to operate well. your athlon 64 with a gig of ram probably ran XP without hiccups. And it would run any LInux, and OS X if it were possible. Whether Vista is better than all of those OS's is very questionable, and none of those OS's use near those kind of resources.

    Frankly, I think MS overpromised, and then kind of ended up hobbling together some code because it was getting left behind by OSX and Linux, which had put out several releases in the 5 years for Vista. Honestly, I hope that on Vista's launch day MS was working on the next version of Windows. And I hope they started from scratch.
  • andycr512, on 11/27/2007, -5/+25You tolerate it even though it chews through an insane amount of ram and requires an insanely fast processor for no good reason??
  • UltraMegaFilms, on 11/27/2007, -18/+38I could have sworn that VISTA intentionally makes use of your ram because unused ram is a waste of speed. I believe it's something like 10,000 times faster than your hard drive. I have VISTA x64 and I cut video and animate. Works like a gem. My MacLovin' boss has me haul my rigg into work because it makes a joke of his fleet of G5's. Not trying to flame macs, just saying it works great and its more stable than XP and OSX for what I have used it for (and I think its fair to compare to Macs since I am cutting video.)
  • coheedcollapse, on 11/27/2007, -4/+24That or he was trying to run it on a 10 year old computer.
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