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- drumnbass, on 10/12/2007, -6/+158Ouch - there's going to be some chair throwing in Redmond...!
- totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -2/+117"reviews" like this probably have more impact on consumer products than a hundred tech geek blog ones.
- pixelguru, on 10/12/2007, -8/+99Chairs have always been a bit unwieldy as projectiles... but these Zune bricks should be great for Mr. Ballmer to hurl at employees.
- seattle98104, on 10/12/2007, -8/+89your mom ;)
- dragongrrl, on 10/12/2007, -8/+87
video of the YEAR
"it's clunky! it's clunky..."
"*sighhh* No comment"
awesome! - grahamcase, on 10/12/2007, -9/+88That video perfectly demonstrates what the iPod has that other players don't have - The Girl Factor. Girls love cute, pretty things. Cute and pretty the Zune ain't...
- RadiantBeing, on 10/12/2007, -5/+67Zune's wifi probably started out as an awesome feature but got lawyered and comitteed to hell. Now it's absolutely useless.
- Nonoboy, on 10/12/2007, -6/+60I know my gf already has a big, clunky thing to drag around with her all the time. Me.
- miniml, on 10/12/2007, -5/+58The problem with the Zune is the one real difference, the Wi-Fi, is so crippled that it is more of a liability than an asset.
- grimreaperev, on 10/12/2007, -11/+53Can you say iPwned!
- danboc, on 10/12/2007, -4/+43Ooooweee... we'll definitly hear Ballmer on this one!
- drakethegreat, on 10/12/2007, -7/+4481v3d07g0d: The reason so many fanboys give MS crap is because so many PC experts tell anyone who buys an Apple that they wasted their money and its a tragedy they are too lazy to build their own.
So obviously is goes both ways... I'm franky sick of people caring so much about software and hardware battles instead of real problems that are world has. I think the system loves it when people go nuts over video game consoles, operating systems, and music players; it makes it that much easier to control the mob as the Romans called it. - rhesuspieces00, on 10/12/2007, -2/+37@toekneebullard
Of course it wont play music from iTunes, but dude, the Zune won't even play Microsoft's DRMed music. ScrewedForSure. - ericnmu, on 10/12/2007, -2/+37"Why doesn't Microsoft get some decent design people"
- "Sigh"
I love that - totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -2/+36Soledad O'Brien is a "fanboy" now? Dude, you are really grasping at straws with that stupid comment.
- TruthDetect, on 10/12/2007, -7/+41MacDailyNews has a field day with this and includes the YouTube video:
http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/11631/ - badnewsblair, on 10/12/2007, -5/+38The fanboy comments are ridiculous. Quit chalking anything that deals MS any sort of negative press to "Fanboys". Stupid ass cop out for anyone defending the Zune as a legitimate "iPod Killer".
The point here is this. MS has the resources to hire any personnel they so please to create whatever they so desire. They wanted to go after the iPod. They could have done it if they had done their research. What does everyone say that the iPod has over every one else in the marketplace? Design. However, instead of hiring the best designers you could get, MS decided to dump money into pointless features that though are cool, will not help it overtake the iPod in this market. Just more typical MS bullsh!t.
No. Techies aren't going to get their reviews from CNN. But again, you are missing the point. Techies make up maybe 2% of the market. Going into the holiday season, the market is... KIDS! More specifically, their parents! Who watches CNN? Those parents. This is a blow to the Zune's possible market share. Sure it has the features to win over some, and it even innovates in the WiFi sharing area, but it isn't beating the iPod on it's own turf, and that MS, is the only way to beat anyone who has over 70% market share that you are going after.
Just another mistake that MS has made, but will never learn from. - angelof, on 10/12/2007, -2/+34Flag, who are you kidding, I'm sure that if the review was the other way around you would have kindly posted it to digg.
- InsaneShow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+33The most damning part of that interview/review was that the two CNN reports were queuing up some awesome questions. Namely the one about checking e-mail and connecting to a personal server to get music.
~InsaneShow - moisie, on 10/12/2007, -4/+30Techy people probably don't, but then again it's still on digg. People who watch CNN will at least take note of it if they ever consider one. This won't help the Zune.
- zorlok, on 10/12/2007, -11/+36With 70%+ market share, it's a lot more than the emo dudes you hate on that are buying iPods.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+28because some of us use it while we exercise. small form factor = great.
- carnytrash, on 10/12/2007, -9/+33I think that's a really good point. Even if the Zune is the same size a regular iPod, it just "looks" clunkier.
- davidszcz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24We don't get advice on tech products from CNN, but that lady in line in front of you during the Gamestop Wii preorders sure does, so does my mom, so do the people watching CNN at the gym instead of listening to music on their iPod (not a zune mind you).
Plenty of people will take the advice of Soledad and get a shuffle just because it's so "cute." - sembetu, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27"Why don't they hire some decent design people..."
ouch. - gruk, on 10/12/2007, -14/+33can't wait to see how SNL will mock this monstrosity.
- Quix, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25"or do you buy an admittedly unattractive multi-hundred-dollar electronics device that has more features and costs less"
Um, the 30G Zune costs the SAME as the 30G iPod. So the choice here is between aesthetics (which may not mean much to you) or a different feature set (which may not mean much to you).
Then there's my 80G iPod, which changes the equation completely. :) - Quix, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25toro, anyone who doesn't agree with flag564 is a "fanboy." Haven't you been reading his lunatic rants for months?
Perhaps you haven't seen them, since they're usually buried (with big negative numbers next to them). - shaggtastic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21This is a consumer product, not a video card or something. If the "reviewer" can't readily point out the advantages of the zune over the shuffle, then that's his problem.
Also, it has wi-fi, why the heck can't it do more than it does? Maybe she has a point. - raid517, on 10/12/2007, -10/+29"That is not even one of the reasons I bought one."
You bought one? Don't you feel a bit silly?
In the words of the immortal Adam Sandler, "people are going to laugh at you!!!" - RuffRidr, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22It certainly would be truth in advertising.
- gruk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20fyi, it doesn't come with soledad o'brien.
- dashiel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21where do you get the zune is cheaper than the ipod? they're identical in price for the 30GB model.
- ArthurSucks, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21Wow. That video really makes me want to buy a shuffle.
- felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18@flickr
I've had Flag on my ban list for ages - I'm suprised he still hasn't lost his account. Since I can't see anything he writes, it's funny to see the reactions as people respond to his trolling. - Quix, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19"I look back at the Original IPod, and that looks clunky and horrible. Early days yet, Don't count Microsoft out just yet." - TonyCubed
Yes, in 5 years the Zune will look better. Oh, but so will the iPod. In fact the Zune looks pretty much just like my 3-year-old iPod with the touch buttons, but with a bigger screen (and in brown).
It's not as if Apple is going to stand still and take a breather and let Microsoft gain ground on them in this war. Microsoft doesn't have its OS/Office monopoly to leverage in this one. They're on Apple's home field now. - carnytrash, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20Actually, if they had called it the MS Turd, I would probably buy one.
- drumsnstuff, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19As much as it is hillarious to think that Microsoft can pick up the undercurrent of anti-establishment, anti-monopoly, trend-buckers, I don't see it lasting very long. The Zune is not an iPod killer. Microsoft really needed to push the technology forward and out-sparkle Apple at the same time. I don't think they did either.
- flickr, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21@angelof
I chuckled to myself when you rebuked Flag... I banned Flag a sort time ago and have been a much happier person since. I recommend all to do the same. - jettloe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17I love the fact that you can't use the Zune as a hard-drive! Everyone I work with uses their hard-drive based iPods to transfer large files - why cripple this part of the product? What are they thinking?
- Dolomite, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21Well, like who didn't see this coming? The Zune is overpriced, oversized, underpowered, crippled, buggy, and just plain FUGLY to look at. The beleagured software giant has missed the mark yet again.
- RuffRidr, on 10/12/2007, -14/+28Brown Zunes remind me of turds.
- Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -8/+22Balmer should spend a weekend at the pretty factory, might reduce some of those veins he has in his forehead.
- angelof, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15CNN is seen around the world... a lot of people watch it. Not many people I know have ever even heard of engadget. So their review, along with the ones that will surely follow on the other major networks will carry a lot of importance.
To Flag... as usual you have nothing intelligent to say other than to ramble on about fanboy blah blah blah. Do you really think that CNN reporters are fanboys??? What happens when Fox News comes out with a bad review of the Zune, will your conservative brain implode, because as you well know, Fox News is ALWAYS right. - carnytrash, on 10/12/2007, -9/+23Aww. Poor little Microsoft. And they try so hard. Won't they ever be successful?
- rhesuspieces00, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16the zune isn't cheaper. where are you getting that from? there were like 10 digg articles talking about how Apple dropped the price of the iPod and MS is going have to sell zunes basically at cost just to be competitive.
- digga, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16@terrya64
Don't forget that this thing runs Microsoft *software* as well. Can you honestly say that their software hasn't let you down?
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Yeah, I didn't think so. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15The worst part is, that's pretty much the kind of questions the non-tech crowd will ask (aka mom, grampa, etc...).
- raid517, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17It's square brick like appearance does somehow oddly remind me of a turd. Whereas Apple's design inspiration appears to have come out of the 60's swinging London Carnaby Street 'hipster' pod living/psychedelia culture of that era (given that the guy who designs them is British), the Zune appears to have been modeled after a turd.
I don't know why, but somehow I find that oddly ironic. - linkbeat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14You know, first of all you MS fanboys are just as bad as the Apple fanboys. Here's the bottom line:
With the amount of capital MS has, they seriously dropped the ball on this one. They had the perfect opportunity to present a perfect competitor to the iPod/iTunes force, and rushed an inferior product to the market. This fails all of us because whether you're an Apple fanboy, a MS fanboy, or neutral, healthy competition lends to better products and lower prices. The iPod is a superior product, but the price is and has been rediculously high.
Although I love my iPod, I was hoping MS would have upped the ante. Alas, failure on their part, and to think that future updates are going to chip away at Apple's dominance is a farce. They needed to come out STRONG in order to form a good first impression. So much for that. I guess we'll continue to pay high prices for aesthetically pleasing media devices.
MS fails, and that sucks for everyone. -
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