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- kanavulator, on 10/12/2007, -7/+25I agree. I think it's one of those penis things.
- phlyersphan, on 10/12/2007, -8/+25The author claims these are "legal" ways to grow your music collection, then suggests you rip CD's borrowed from the library. Definitely not "legal." You don't own those CD's. The author mentions that you may be infringing on copyright laws... so why include this in your great "legal" article? No digg.
- chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -0/+131) bittorrent
done. have a cup of tea and wait for your DRM free music. - thefinalruin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12The author also mentioned that you should delete them from your HDD before you return them.
- VMark, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12So, someone with a blog thinks up the brilliant idea of getting mp3s from CDs you own and this gets dugg? Wow!! Give me a break.
- tfizzle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Of course, according to the RIAA, you never really own music anyway, just license it.
- stukdog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I went thru the stage of building as big and as fast as I can. Lately, I've had my iTunes play in shuffle mode and I'm deleting alot of songs that come on.
- 955701, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Becuase I like to listen to a million songs?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Collectors collect for the sake of collecting, it's not always about the collection! It's a hobby, a passtime.
- shockwavedave, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6meh, i'm done with bittorent. I want quality control, higher bitrate aac files.
- mywhitenoise, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I have 12,646, but I didn't plan to have a large collection. I've been buying albums ever since I was 10, I now own about 500, and another 3 - 400 albums on mp3 (which I will eventually buy in time). People should just get music for themselves, not to impress anyone..because honestly, most people have horrible taste in music as it is.
- foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5or..... get your friends who share a taste in music and split up the cost of CDs. Then rip it to each other's computers!
- ardenr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I know most of Digg probably knows this already, but it wasn't mentioned in the article:
www.pandora.com
Feed in a song or artist that you like and it will create a radio station based on the qualities of your input. Fine-tune your different stations and you will be finding great music you never heard of in no time. Not sure exactly how many songs are on it, but there are about 10,000 artists and many live/rare recordings.
I'm not going to tell you how to get the tracks out of Pandora easily, but if you ask nicely Google might - really though it's just a great way to discover music if your local radio sucks.
Screw ClearChannel!! - Orangutan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5well musics a good conversation topic, and having lots of music that maybe some of your friends listen to is a good thing. if you know the tracks in your library, whats wrong with having a big one?
- dbr_onix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Bittorrent IS Peer to Peer...
But yes, things like Limewire are better for the odd track, although, if there is a torrent that contains the song you want, you can download that specific file
- Ben - ptrcd003, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4But the library paid for the CD with our tax money, so whos to say we don't own the tracks?
- icdeadpeople, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5This article says much of nothing.
- TruthElixirX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The biggest problem with all these unsigned bands is they aren't well known (obviously), so I have no idea if I'll like their stuff, I have no one to ask, and must search through bands that are unsigned for a reason before I find some real talent.
Some people say to turn to social networking sites, iLike, Pandora, Last.fm, etc. I looked at iLike but it seemed like an updated last.fm to me. Which was mostly commercial artists that I would have to go and pay for.Pandora wasn't really good at introducing me to new music as it was at introducing me to copy cat type bands.
Someone needs to come out with something that is like iLike or Last.fm with the social aspect, but for small unsigned bands. It needs a good design and some good capital to get advertisement and lots of traffic. It needs to be diverse (most sites I've seen that have tried this are usually techno or hard rock/industrial based; as this is what geeks like to listen to and the sites are product of us geeks.).
You would need to appeal to a mass audience, but would need to be cost effective. You could use torrents. torrents are very cost effective, you would need to (I'm no expert on torrrents so I'm not sure if this is possible), have a server that is a seed, in case no one is seeding, it can stil lbe downloaded. You would need a nice pretty, no frills, torrent program. There are plenty of OSS programs out there, surely one could be modified. The biggest leap to this (besides market penetration) would be making torrents work fro everyone. Many ISPs limit torrent traffic and many colleges block it all together.
New, easy to use, no frills, pretty torrent program
Diversity
Social Aspect
There, someone go make it...
/me wishes he had the venture capital. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Don't know why you are voting Chakz down. He is right. For anything older than a year old, or for an individual song, the old school P2P programs still beats bit torrent hands down.
And after all, isn't one of the appeals of MP3 the fact that you don't have to get the entire CD when 9 of the 12 songs suck? - Gerz1219, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5There are two types of music listeners -- those who listen to songs, and those who listen to albums. The iTunes paradigm works great for the former users, who only listen to a couple songs off of each album and disregard the rest. A 2GB Nano is more than enough for "song listeners", because they would never need more than a thousand songs available at a time. The concept of having every song off an album is completely alien to this group.
Album listeners tend to be hardcore completists. They don't want to just have "I'm Waiting for the Man" on their iPod, they need the entire Velvet Underground catalog. It's not because they're going to want to listen to White Light/White Heat every day, but because they need it on their 80GB iPod in case the mood should strike them six months down the line. iTunes (or regular CD purchase) is prohibitively expensive for such listeners, because owning every song recorded by every artist they're interested in would cost thousands of dollars that they don't have. This is where the market for piracy comes in; if you eliminated all the piracy, they'd probably purchase 10-20% of what they steal -- most of them couldn't afford much more than that.
For album listeners, collecting a vast music library is a hobby, not a penis size contest. As with all hobbies, it seems absurd and unthinkable to those with a more casual interest. If any casual computer user read a Linux vs. Windows thread on digg, they'd conclude this was an asylum. - dacheetah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3There is no reason you can't rip a CD from the library, as long as you delete the rip before you return the CD to the library. Granted, most people won't delete the rip, but that doesn't mean that those who DO delete it are committing a crime (except in countries like the UK where you can't rip a CD even if you own it and simply want to play the music on your iPod or the like)
- GetDownMoses, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You only have 500 Mountain Goats songs??? You're so lame.
- arwcheek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Lately I've become addicted to lala.com-- I've listed all of my old CDs that I haven't played in ten years and traded them with other lala users for new albums. Worth checking out! (but don't "rip and ship")
- Odalisque, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4i have a 4GB Nano, i can fit 1000 songs, meh i use half that, i have my fav's there, and then it makes a useful flashdrive
- agwyllie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Dugg for mentioning download.com does music too.
How did I not know this? - sldSquirrel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I used a combination of the public library and emusic.com. eMusic to find new, obscure stuff, public library for any mainstream album I like.
- Area51mafia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've found http://music.podshow.com to be a nice place to find music that you can download and share as you wish legally. Also podcasts like CC365.org and Starfrosch.ch (and others) have alot of Creative Commons licensed music that you can legally download.
- Zanza, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2the only thing that was good about this artilce is that thing about the CDs at public librays, never knew that, i'll have to hit one up for some CDs
- malliemcg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What about allofmp3.com ? Perfectly legal for me to use that (as an Australian - parallel importing music for personal use is legal, and currently allofmp3 is legal in Russia).
M - MrAlexanderZ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I will digg it only cause I pirate all my music and support anyone who is willing to shell out pointless dollars to corporations who have no idea what my musical taste is. GO to concerts and BUY t-shirts, support artists the indie way... give them some love damnit! F-the RIAA
- cphuntington97, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ripping isn't inherently illegal in the states.
Time shifting is fair use; however, "building a collection" is not. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Why do these inane "articles" make it to the front page so often. Who the ***** cares? This guy is just rehashing ways of getting music. (Some are not legal like he claims.)
Please diggers..for the love of god...STOP being sheep and automatically digging anything with the word Apple, or iTunes in the title! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1carapi is right, since the nature of bittorrent is to seed and leech. I would wager that newer items would be seeded ( TV, albums, movies, apps ) more often than something a few years old.
p2p users would share items that are in the whole range of time. I seem to have the same luck anyways. So i use both. - tempusrob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://www.rmpmusic.com/omd.html
Dozens of music sites. All of which have DRM-free music (last I checked, anyway). I haven't updated it in a while, but it should be 99% accurate. - tempusrob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Torrents are nice, but they're not going to appeal to a mass audience. You could have a downloadable client to sort of abstract the process, but you're entering into a realm of complication that most end users won't want to deal with. They just want to click the link, download, and be done, ya know? Plus, by doing so you're putting your site's content in the hands of either 1) its visitors or 2) the artists. Neither of which are going to be 100% dependable. You could, of course, have a dedicated server-side seed ... but that will still leave you to contend with a rather large bandwidth bill.
Still, your core idea is a good one ... and as an indie musician I'd certainly like to see something along these lines. Alas, if I had the time to actually pursue it ... I certainly know enough PHP. MySpace *kind of * has the right idea, but it *is* rather hard to find stuff that's going to be in your vein of tastes. Very hit-and-miss.
I'm feeling a cross between MySpace and Last.FM. Last.FM has a catalogue of your music tastes. MySpace has indie music. Intersect your existing music tastes with MySpace's music... and you're off to a good start.
Now you've got me thinking... - chix0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1last.fm is a good way to discover the unsigned bands listed on those independent sites. Not only will they let you listen to a clip of a few songs by the artist, but you can get a decent list of similar artists in case you discover a new genre you find appealing.
Using that and (my very illegal) Frostwire, I have a massive music collection I have very proud of. :) - osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1TruthElixirX - I hear you, but getting music has always been about marketing. I'm not sure what you are looking for, but at no point prior to now has it been easier to discover new artists.
- indraneel24, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1write a better one. now.
this kid is actually taking the initiave to write. and he must be making good money (or is really rich) because he just bought a mediatemple grid server. and loads of imac crap. - anon48654, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1FTA: “Killer not Filler”.
Very good advice. I only wish that iTunes was more adept at displaying filtered results. If you want to browse your library by artist, album, genre, etc you need to view the entire thing, same for the ipod. You can't create a play list of highly rated songs and then browse that, you just get a long list.
Over the years I've gotten more and more anal about organizing my collection; now I group by rating
5 stars= really good, everyone's favorites
4= my favorites, most people would like but maybe haven't heard before
3= good songs but can't stand alone, good enough to keep still
2 I don't use
1= delete once I'm on the computer again
And by pace:
fast
medium-fast
medium
medium-slow
slow
I didn't think pace sorting would work at first, but it's more effective than sorting by mood which is more judgmental. I find that my medium-fast songs are good party songs (aka lots of them are also rated with 5 stars), and medium is good for hanging out with a bowl and beer (heh). Slow and fast are special songs, like techno or stuff to put me to sleep, usually rated 3 stars because I wouldn't want to bore other people with that stuff. I don't use any of that automatic bpm detection stuff, it's better to do it by hand. If you know your music, you can just click through real fast and drag songs into the right category. Set hotkeys for ratings with a plugin and it's very simple. Oh, right. My point of quoting the article article is that as you do this categorization you'll wind up deleting lots of redundant or ***** music. And with ratings you can easily save the filler you like while not having to wade through it later on. - tempusrob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Oh and if anyone knows anything that should be added to that list, by all means let me know.
- ElMoselYEE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0if you think P2P is better, i think you haven't found the right torrent site, as torrents help me find every song i need (sometimes not the remixes) in over 192kbps quality.
- foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I would like a story on the beginner's guide to gravity
- guitarromantic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Next week's articles:
"Bears! Here's how to ***** in the woods!"
"Sick of manually breathing? Learn how to inhale and exhale automatically!"
"5 Step Guide to Falling off a Log"
"A Beginner's guide to gravity" - osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Until the latest update (7.0.1.8) can't seem to play anything without skipping. By the way, why does this article have anything to do with iTunes? It should be about your music collection, not iTunes... misleading article. Not really against the submitter, but I am against the article title being misleading.
- mulling, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1This article has a gaping hole: recording radio. It's 100% legal ("time-shifting" is fair use) and there are vast numbers of streaming stations to choose from. Grabbing them is easy with AudioHijack if you're on OS X.
Oh, and podcasts. Can't believe he missed that one. - cleverboy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2>> I agree. I think it's one of those penis things.
That may be the case, but I bet you have a small music collection don't you? ;-)
Anyway, I think its nice to have a large collection, if for no other reason than knowing you can discover or re-discover new music that you may not have gotten a chance to really listen to. Right now, my "shuffle" is nice, but it'd be nicer if the pool of music had me pull up the unexpected far more often. - MyDocuments, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1"meh, i'm done with bittorent. I want quality control, higher bitrate aac files."
wow, you must be hiding in a closet. ever heard of private trackers? THE highest quality stuff. - egotripping, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Not to toot my own horn, but I have deep, diverse taste in music and I've got over 20 days worth of music on my computer/60 gig ipod. Is it a penis thing? No, I don't go around showing off how many artists are listed on my iPod, or tell people that I've got nearly 500 Mountain Goats songs alone, that's just silly.
- spacejunky, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2I love this! This will change my ipod! I was unable to get onto the website at first but then I cut and pasted the URL. Thanks for posting this!
- kingfoot, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3its probably because of the ipod...if you dont fill your 30gb ipod with only music or all the best movies and shows, then you're not cool...
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