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- dyranios2, on 11/14/2007, -9/+40Sorry but Europe in general has higher standards phone wise then our American friends, personally I was not impressed with a device that has arrived here 6 months later after it was initially released, can't even allow you to send files through bluetooth or record video, send MMS (you get the idea) which is why the initial sales figures were no where near as high as they were in the US (per 100).
- inactive, on 11/14/2007, -6/+30This is propaganda at its most blatant.
- ElFozzie, on 11/14/2007, -12/+34Not so sure about the UK sales figures - from what I saw in the UK there were no queues anywhere and considering all the hype and the promotional work it really should have sold better in the first few days than a standard phone. RE: the universal love, A lot of people in the UK are actually getting quite fed up of iPhone I think, with the locked sim, expensive tariffs and general walled garden approach
- Christbait, on 11/14/2007, -9/+26LIES.
The iPhone completely flopped in the UK and that's a given fact. The sales figures must be doctored plus of all the people I know, I certainly don't know a soul who owns one or has even talked about one.
http://www.dialaphone.co.uk/blog/?p=750 - dukeeeey, on 11/14/2007, -7/+21weird
because theregister reported on the fact the launch of the iphone was a giant failure because no one showed up
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11/11/iphone_uk_ ... - thefandango, on 11/14/2007, -1/+12it's because they're trying to figure out how to compensate for the fact that in the southern hemisphere the data goes out the in port and in the out port.
sorry for the inconvenience - Sanduu, on 11/14/2007, -7/+17That's true, Apple has an extremely positive charisma.
- giania, on 11/14/2007, -6/+16I can't help but wonder how much of this is fluff. I saw another article, with photos, stating that the super-special-awesome first day of sales that's being claimed is a put on. (Not the Register article.) Pics aren't everything, but you have to wonder. A company that large has a lot of spin control options, and could certainly make it look a lot fancier than it really was.
- Ramble, on 11/14/2007, -2/+12Pretty sure that's a damn lie. After being canned in some reviews (the gadget show) there have been tonnes of reports of nonexistant lines, I've got a few friends who work at O2 and carphone warehouse and haven't seen any lines at all (one at Bluewater).
We just do not go for such a crappy deal like the iPhone. - plbland, on 11/14/2007, -0/+9My local o2 and Carphone Warehouse stores were as empty as ever - definitely no queues. I'm sure a fair few have been sold but it's going to take us Brits a little while to warm up to actually - paying - for a phone and paying full price on a contract for 18 months, it's literally unheard of in this country.
- systemghost, on 11/14/2007, -1/+10honestly he could post that comment in *any* apple-related digg submission and nobody would notice it has no context whatsoever.
checklist:
1) apple is totally cool!
2) microsoft is awkward!
3) sit back and wait for the thumbs up!
Oh.. and ??? profit!! etc. - inactive, on 11/14/2007, -5/+14Last Digg about iPhone hype tells truth:
http://www.dialaphone.co.uk/blog/?p=750
Yes Europe Iphone gets snapped up... by a few standing in line, that's all.
The rest of you are sniffing Apple glue ! - inactive, on 11/14/2007, -0/+8This isn't the exact study I was referring to earlier, but it supports my point: Fancy Features Don't Sell Cell Phones: http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,125937-page,1/ar ...
- hungarian33, on 11/13/2007, -4/+11the apple i phone only gets to australia next year. so slow.
- inactive, on 11/13/2007, -1/+8Well, thanks for taking the straw man approach to your disagreement, but I didn't say anything about price, just that the lack of features don't dictate what people buy. But be that as it may, I too agree that price is an important factor.
- rudy23, on 11/13/2007, -2/+9which story is this in reference to?
- tugger, on 11/14/2007, -9/+16My local 02 shop was rammed with people, and so was Carphone whorehouse, so I waited until today (14th) and still had to queue up behind 3 or 4 people. I'm chopping to 02 because orange's support is awful, and they want £46 ($95) for unlimited data per month, on top of their 200min/£35 tariff. So for the same money as the sluggish N95, I get a phone that actually works and a support number that answers by the third ring. Bye bye orange.
- kronix2, on 11/14/2007, -3/+10"A lot of people in the UK are actually getting quite fed up of iPhone I think, with the locked sim, expensive tariffs and general walled garden approach"
That's because we're not chumps.
The convention in the UK is that you either get a free (or cheap) phone on a monthly contract which is typically £30, or you pay up to about £250 for a top of the range phone on Pay As You Go - no contract. The iPhone costs £270 AND a *minimum* of £35 a month. That stacks up to £900 for an 18-month contract. Yes, £900 for a phone which is missing features which Europeans have enjoyed for years.
Let's compare the TCO of the iPhone and the Nokia N95 on O2 tariffs.
iPhone: £270 + £35 per month for 18 months = £900.
N95+8gb memory card: £40 + £30 per month for 18 months = £580.
The iPhone is a whopping £320 more over 18 months than the better specified Nokia. 5mp camera, removable storage, and more. The iPhone doesn't have expandable memory, or a replaceable battery. It can't even record video. The average person doesn't care or know about Apple's draconian use of DRM (preventing you from running third-party apps, ringtones etc.). They care that an extraordinarily expensive phone doesn't even come with 3G and other basic features we in the UK have become accustomed to.
The Apple hype dies away when store clerks are coerced into revealing that the iPhone doesn't support features which £80 phones support. - Krumm, on 11/14/2007, -2/+9Exactly - people over here are used to the features that have thrilled the US.
Most phones outspec the iPhone over here, and other than the novelty value / fanboy buyers, people already have a single device that does all the things that the iPhone does, but without the missing features and network lock-in. - Farmer77, on 11/14/2007, -2/+8Hi,
I really don't have anything relevant to say actually,
Just gonna sit back and watch the forces collide between the people digging you up and the apple fanboys digging you down. - Cytranic, on 11/13/2007, -2/+8My first though was why the hell would Britney Spears want so many Iphones.
- jj101, on 11/13/2007, -2/+8I walked past the Apple store on Regents street the other day and the qeue went around the corner of the block. I would have joined it, or at least gone and got one this weekend, if it was available on other networks and was 3G.
- heystoopid, on 11/14/2007, -1/+6But then again O2 is the weakest network in the UK with the least coverage so why would the punters bother ?
- wearescience, on 11/14/2007, -1/+6up almost 12%(16 points) as of 3:30 EST
- grantmoore3d, on 11/13/2007, -2/+7Why the hell isn't it in Canada yet? Seriously, we're within spitting distance of the US... arg!!
- streak, on 11/14/2007, -1/+63G Web browser... check! Web browser that properly renders web pages... uh, no. that's not in the specs. Heh, oh well. The specs are still better than iPhone!
- fantasticjon, on 11/13/2007, -1/+6What's wrong with glass? I don't get it? is it some meme I am not familiar with? Is GLASS somehow inferior to PLASTIC?
- Billions, on 11/14/2007, -0/+5Hmmm... What's up with all the Brits acting like Americans don't know "up from sideways" with phones? "We don't go for crap, we need more, etc, etc..." But things like the Spice Girls reunion and Big Brother are OK? If you dig phones, like anyone who even knows what "N95" even stands for, you probably have bought greymarket phones and owned unlocked GSM phones for years... I know I have - both an SE p800 and a SE p910 when they were released. Both were cool at the time, but in retrospect sucked compared to my iPhone. For a bunch of commenters who know a lot about phones, you sure don't understand that the iPhone has wicked software, quality hardware, great battery life for a unit in it's class, and is an iPod as well - not a Nokia phone trying to be an iPod - something so simple but yet so important to a lot of people. An iPod that pauses when you get a phone call. A feature more important that anyone here will care to admit.
I love that N95. Cool phone. A bit thicker and blockier than the iPhone, and here in the states, more expensive than even the $599 iPhone, but cool. Might have even bought one. But the iPhone is amazing, folks. Great user experience, better software than anything out. It may not be for you. No problem. But if you claim to like phones and hate the iPhone, well, you're just doing out of spite for Apple. It's a good device. - troydoogle7, on 11/14/2007, -1/+6buried as inaccurate. Looks like some people in the writers guild strike have decided to start writing articles on the internet. Bad plot line.... complete BS
- HenvY, on 11/13/2007, -4/+8What did you expect him to say, the launch was a total flop and teaming up with apple was a misjudgement?
- EnderMB, on 11/13/2007, -0/+4There was no one in Bristol at all waiting for the iPhone, which was kinda surprising since local radio stations decided to wait around for the launch. This is probably down to the fact that Apple screwed us around by making us wait so long, only to charge us more than America. None of the other mobile phone companies have such delays and it'll cost Apple greatly here.
- plizard, on 11/13/2007, -2/+6wow you people really don't understand for-profit corporations, do you?
- Feener, on 11/14/2007, -3/+7Give me pay and go and I'm sold, £35 a month is stupid.
- LeonardNimrod, on 11/13/2007, -1/+5Yes. Yes they did use strong, optical quality glass instead of cheap, easy-to-scratch plastic screen.
Why? Glass is naturally very scratch resistant and scratches on aluminium will eventually go away as it will naturally repair itself.
Another reason (trying to be fair minded here) Apple went this way at the last minute may be to claim to be more Green, like they did with the new aluminium and glass iMac.
Also, the screen is glued to the capacitance resister below so it won't shatter if broken. However, I would like to see what a cracked iPhone screen looks like. - kronix2, on 11/14/2007, -0/+4I forgot to mention the most important point: the iPhone is locked down to O2, while almost every other phone (whether £25 or £250) is available on several networks.
- fantasticjon, on 11/14/2007, -1/+5A laundry list of features doe not a great phone make. Video and MMS would be nice. GPS would be killer. But the features it does have are executed properly. Not nearly perfect, but its the best phone I have ever had.
- systemghost, on 11/14/2007, -1/+5I'll trust a third-party news source actually IN THE UK for no-spin more than I will an APPLE BLOG talking about how *totally awesome* Apple is and how many billions of "britains" are waiting in lines ... on Fortune's APPLE-LOVE blog.
Your attempt at a sarcastic statement actually reads like the truth. Did you think about that? - rudy23, on 11/13/2007, -0/+3more crotch shots
- streak, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3I used GSM/GPRS in the US on a T68i in early 2002. GSM was here well before that.
iPhone pushes the software envelope, using robust technology that allows for long battery life with existing cellular chip sets. iPhone also has the fastest processor of any smart phone currently available. - derek20cali, on 11/13/2007, -3/+6I just got done reading an article that said the exact opposite. I hate you ***** liars on this site.
- streak, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3Let us know how painful it is to read and post comments on digg with your N95! It's a piece o'cake with iPhone.
- HolyChimp, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3I've been following the iPhone closely and got mine on launch day, but I didn't even realise Carphone Warehouse were selling them until my Dad came home with his and told me there was no queue there. I'm not a representative sample by any means, but maybe that's why you only sold 3? "Only on o2" has been plastered on every iPhone advert I've seen.
- inactive, on 11/14/2007, -11/+14@dyranios2
Oh, yeah, I'm sure the average consumer was saying, "No MMS? F*ck the multi-touch, full internet with Wifi, Google Maps, YouTube, SMS texting, Visual Voicemail and the Video iPod. I want MMS!"
Please!
It's not the amount of features you have in a phone. Plenty of terrible phones have more features than the iPhone. It's how usable the features are. There was a study done, I wish I could link to it, which proved that the majority of people only use 10 percent of any features they are provided. Most people don't bother because the features are poorly implemented. - mrmorris, on 11/14/2007, -2/+5Hmm I'm sure the iPhone is impressive and pushing the envelope in the US (nice they finally discovered GSM), but these kind of phones are not new in Europe and they are much cheaper.
- streak, on 11/13/2007, -0/+3Apple is incorporated in California, not the UK. It costs quite a lot to do quality business in foreign countries. $60 more doesn't seem like a lot to me. Look at the total cost of ownership (handset + service contract) and it's an even smaller percentage than it first might seem.
- GeekyGerge, on 11/13/2007, -0/+3I agree that here in Bristol there was no real hype except from GWR which totally over-hype everything.
- xNIBx, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3A new n95 came out with 8gB embeded memory. It's black and generally improved. But even the old n95 can get a 8gB flash memory.
- streak, on 11/13/2007, -2/+5FYI: While wearing polarizing sunglasses, have you ever tried to read the display of smart phones with plastic windows? Many of them are simply unreadable, while others need to be rotated. No problem with polarization and iPhone. The glass of the iPhone is also shatter resistant and far more scratch resistant than plastic.
- kronix2, on 11/14/2007, -2/+5Not only do most phones outspec the iPhone, but they're considerably cheaper. I compared the iPhone to the Nokia N95 earlier in the article. It's £900 and £580 respectively for the minimum contract length on the cheapest option.
The iPhone is £320 more than the technologically superior N95, and it's locked down to a single network as you said. That's why there were no queues. - rdas7, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3Doesn't make coffee, end world hunger or create world peace. Other than that, it's pretty neat.
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