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- MarianaPeyton, on 07/21/2008, -4/+44This is really great for downloading an MP3 file and pressing play. Sometimes I think of what could get better on OS X (except bugs and file system) but Apple seems to find a way to innovate in a way that no one has done before.
- thetanman, on 07/22/2008, -0/+19I noticed I could play an .mp3 file within Gmail for the first time the other day, too. Whenever I browse files on my PC now I feel like I've stepped back 10 years or something. The new Finder is the main reason I use Leopard now.
- zzz@tkz, on 07/22/2008, -0/+17Hence the play button, and not autoplay.
- zakatov, on 07/22/2008, -0/+14That's why you can always press space bar and have it play in a dedicated quicklook window
- ChefEspeff, on 07/22/2008, -0/+12It's not because they're negative it's because they're pointless. If someone wants to write up a technical reason why this is going to be bloaty people might digg it up. This is just like when people say "cool article". You're gonna get dugg down, not necessarily for your opinion but because you don't present it in an interesting way or with any facts to support it.
- mediaphile, on 07/22/2008, -1/+11a) you could just want to check that it's the video you're looking for
2) you might just want the audio of a video to play. with normal quicklook, the file stops playing as soon as you switch applications, this mode allows background playback. - inactive, on 07/22/2008, -0/+7Tabbed finder damn it! give it to me!
- jasmus, on 07/22/2008, -0/+7because they all lack evidence. A feature of an OS that's not out yet is being called bloaty without any good resoning as to how they came to the conclusion. You're suprise the trolls are getting dugg down? I would be dugg down just as much if i just posted "awesome".
- jasmus, on 07/22/2008, -0/+7Icons can be up to 128x128. not ideal for video, but it is only meant as a preview.
- inactive, on 07/22/2008, -1/+8that's pretty freaking cool!
- wellyuk, on 07/22/2008, -0/+6I'll reiterate - dugg down.
- timusca, on 07/22/2008, -0/+6This is just one more hurdle to hide porn from someone... before, you could just rename the file to something unsuspecting, but now they don't even have to open the file to see what it is.
- Stiles05s, on 07/22/2008, -0/+6QuickLook was already awesome, props to making it better.
- mediaphile, on 07/22/2008, -1/+6I'm sure it's using mostly the same coreaudio/corevideo/coreimage code as quicklook, i.e., no bloat.
- thetanman, on 07/22/2008, -0/+5sudo make me a sandwhich.
- inactive, on 07/22/2008, -0/+4Too late, I 'got you wrong'.
- Karmavs, on 07/22/2008, -0/+4and can it PLEASE support quick looking at clippings?
- newbill123, on 07/22/2008, -0/+4One other point mentioned in the article was not about icons but about needing to enter the password twice when using the Installer app (rather than using a drag and drop install like most apps do).
The double password entry required for using the installer. They're obviously giving the installer more power to analyze the file system or more net access and hence need more security to protect data even before anything is actually installed. That justifies moving the password to the start of the process, but why enter it a second time? Lengthy installs? Possibility of someone walking away from the machine? Couldn't they do the same timed base install like for sudo in the terminal? - ilgaz, on 07/22/2008, -0/+4Implementation is totally different, it is a system central technology using quicktime framework.
- SpacePirate, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3Both correct. The .icns file is up to 512x512, but the icons in the finder only go up to 128.
- newbill123, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3It will be nostalgic for users of Quicktime before version 4. Didn't people refer to them as moving postage stamps? Someone should find an old CD of Quicktime movies back from System 7.1 days. Move the 100's of postage stamps over to OS X and have a ball.
- haentz, on 07/22/2008, -1/+4Can Quickview in Snow Leopard PLEASE support copying from it?
- atgmac, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3OS X doesn't have window borders around the whole window like Windows does, so I don't know how you suggest they implement resizing from any corner/edge.
- Konstantino, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3I know Linux distros are great and all, but you guys are getting worse than the Apple fanboys. This is a Mac topic, don't go off it. You also failed to mention which distro of Linux.
- Protoss, on 07/22/2008, -8/+11This feature is actually available in the latest GNOME, so Apple didn't think of it all by themselves.
- TastyLamp, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3It's like Apple forgot about clippings or something. No love.
- ilgaz, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2Interestingly Path Finder already uses quicklook technology for icon previews. I am not totally sure but its "preview" pane could be already using this tactic to preview music/video.
- waluigi14, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2Ubuntu's audio preview feature sucks, though. It randomly starts when you mouse over, but resets unless you keep the mouse over the icon. Useless.
- dagamer34, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2Icons can be up to 512x512 in Leopard. Get with the times man!
- sixlaneve, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2Finally a Digg story that is not iPhone related
- newbill123, on 07/22/2008, -1/+3While Quicklook is pretty handy to make a quick, full screen slideshow of a bunch of porn or a large multimedia file (using a standard codec), I kind of wish Apple would have the spacebar open the get info window when only a single file is selected.
Get Info has those big Preview icons and if you want to see other information (file size or spotlight keywords) it'd be more useful than just the single purpose QuickLook preview windows in Leopard now. - lut4rp, on 07/22/2008, -1/+3true, my friend, very true...
- arjung, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2but i like to hit space and see all of the meta-data on the mp3 to make sure it's what i wanted. i hope they keep the old behavior (space for a popup player) and the new one (mouse click for a icon-player). even better would be if both support this "playing when Finder is in the background" behavior.
- jasmus, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2I think the 512x512 icons are only if you're using coverflow.
- postmodernpilot, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2Sounds good, Ive missed this feature since Ubuntu 8.04 had something like this in their OS.
- schneb, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2Comment Dugg for one paragraph of truth. Could not disagree with anything you said. Is the OS perfect? Far from it. Innovative? Indeed. QuickLook the best thing since sliced bread? Absolutely.
- alpha88, on 07/22/2008, -1/+3Nice, I didn't see a reason to upgrade before, but I have enough similar files that this will be handy.
- geoken, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1This was part of gnome before 8.04, it was in at least 7.10 if not earlier versions.
- sittered, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1It's most likely not bloated at all, since this new button probably just accesses the same QuickLook feature that's been there since Leopard was released.
- prammy, on 07/23/2008, -0/+1In the initial releases of nautilus (for gnome 1.x) , if you had the sidebar enabled, you could 'preview' the sound files by clicking the play button in the sidebar.
It was taken out in Gnome 2.0. For the past few releases Gnome would allow you to preview a sound file by hovering over it. - Rothgarr, on 07/22/2008, -1/+2Agreed. Allow me to resize from any corner/edge.
Oh, and give me better file options in open/save dialog boxes. I want to rename files, copy/paste them, delete, etc. Just like in Windows. - atgmac, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1Being elitist about distros ("n00buntu") won't help linux gain popularity.
- geoken, on 07/22/2008, -1/+2ilgaz, your post makes no sense. The implementation is identical. The underlying framework may be different but it's implemented in the exact same way.
- nakile, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1Here you go: http://youtube.com/watch?v=O6U1Xthk9dA
- TastyLamp, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1What's wrong with it? Aside from no cut command.
- horsepie, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1You seem to have a strong bias again apple. A lot of software makes you scroll to the bottom on the EULA pages. Doesn't mean it isn't a retarded thing to do, though.
- newbill123, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1What's could be improved with the Finder technically?
* It's built on a Carbon base. And Carbon, we're told (this year) won't be making the transition to 64-bit clean API's.
* It gets "special treatment" from Apple with hooks deep into the OS. Unlike other "default apps" like Quicktime Player or Preview, the Finder isn't replaceable as the default with any other file finding & launching app. It has hooks into being the app that controls the desktop even though this valuable function could be opened to other apps (monitoring a security camera, showing a stock ticker, etc). If the Finder itself is offering special services, move them to the system libraries. If it's just using hidden system libraries then those services should be opened up to developers. Apple works best when it's kept honest by eating the same dog food it gives to developers to use.
* Performance can still be an issue. While some of users' complaints about the beach ball of death are due to system resource starvation, the Finder seems like a prime candidate for the Snow Leopard features like OpenCL and Grand Central.
While the user-interface problems aren't universal (I've never missed the cut command you desire, for example), here are three big user interface issues for me.
* It's too easy to accidentally make your temporary changes to a window the defaults for every new Finder window.
* It offers enough advanced options to confuse users (e.g. file permissions) but not enough to be truly friendly and useful to an advanced user (e.g. view .hidden files).
* It's very modal. Want to hide the status bar? It's a constantly grayed out menu option unless you happen to have also hidden the toolbar. Want to use the command key shortcut to sort your list view by size? Control-Cmd-4 works in icon view, but not in others like column or list view. It seems like the glued together work of 4 or 5 different teams rather than one team with a guided by one set of goals and ideas. - pyrates, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1I would guess it is ubuntu. Course it never showed up for me, so how did you do it?
- marcushe, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1Well, I think the point of the icon video is strictly for recognizing the video if you didn't know what it was.
- inactive, on 07/22/2008, -1/+1Entering your password once, twice, or a dozen times doesn't prevent any of the above, you noob.
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