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- kingkilr, on 10/12/2007, -28/+665What makes it great is that this one is 100% true.
- MelloFox, on 10/12/2007, -36/+548That was probably the only Mac Vs. PC commercial they've done I can actually say was funny without being annoying.
- aussieNickuss, on 10/12/2007, -10/+264"You are coming to a sad realization, cancel or allow?" That last line put the icing on the cake. I think its the best Get a Mac ad yet!
- gldfshnpcklejar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+200I just saw this on TV tonight.... so it has been released.
- virtualball, on 10/12/2007, -10/+173This is the best one because it is true. They don't cover facts up, they added the whole "you could turn it off" line. I love this one, especially the end :)
- Me1000, on 10/12/2007, -6/+159Probably the most true one yet!
Why does Vista have to ask me if i want to do everything, when i just told it I want to do it! - meepus, on 10/12/2007, -8/+160This really isn't FUD, sadly. Everyone I know who uses Vista agrees that this commercial is spot on.
- GliTCH82, on 10/12/2007, -9/+108I also think this is the best one they've done but only because unlike the others (i.e. the new "digital camera from Japan") this one is actually true. For the record, I use Vista and I have UAC disabled (and am constantly wondering if I shouldn't leave it that way).
Edit: Kingkilr beat me to it. - datagod, on 10/12/2007, -5/+98I love the last bit "You are coming to a sad realization...Allow or cancel?"......"sigh....allow..."
- superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -1/+92And as pointed out by the ad, turning it off defeats the whole point and puts you back at square one as far as security goes.
- joelito, on 10/12/2007, -2/+86Dugg for a great commercial and for a link that skips the browser check that locks Linux users out.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+87This argument is so critically flawed, I can't believe it's even used anymore. Mac OS X security is not security through obscurity. Back in the OS 9 days there was plenty, and I mean plenty of viruses and malware, and the internet hadn't even been fully realized yet. When they moved to OS X, suddenly that number dropped to vitually zero, where it's remained ever since, DESPITE the fact that there are a lot more Mac users today than there were in the OS 9 days. If it truly was security through obscurity, we should see *at least* as much malware for OS X as we did for OS 9, but we don't.
The reality is that Mac OS X is more secure than WIndows, not because of obscurity, but because of it's FreeBSD base (Darwin), which was designed with security as a major, if not THE major, theme. That being said, Apple really deserves NO CREDIT for the security of OS X. All that credit can be handed to FreeBSD and UNIX. - Quix, on 10/12/2007, -10/+92"Nowadays, security guys break the Mac every single day. Every single day, they come out with a total exploit, your machine can be taken over totally." - Bill Gates
Yep, flag564 is right yet again! No potshots at Apple coming from Microsoft. None whatsoever. - orangekid13, on 10/12/2007, -4/+78You are attempting to laugh.
cancel or allow? - owenleej, on 10/12/2007, -4/+70Thats one of the only one of these commercials I can agree with. Vista is getting pretty ridiculous with the "are you sure you want to breathe" knid of stuff.
- Petronski, on 10/12/2007, -5/+71"You are coming to a sad realization. Cancel or allow?"
That's funny right there, I don't care who you are. - mr.hostility, on 10/12/2007, -8/+72@pipdip
They will understand it as soon as they try to run Vista. The sad part is only technical people will know how to turn it off. - mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -7/+65High Definition: http://images.apple.com/movies/us/apple/getamac/apple-getamac-security_848x496.mov
(just as fast as the small version) - Lax32, on 10/12/2007, -15/+65"Probably because the Mac guy didn't talk that much."
Im with you there. Im a Mac guy myself, and I think that this is a pretty well done series by Apple, but I still dont like the Mac guy.
I mean, this is an actor who has played the role of the odd/nerdy guy in everything Ive ever seen him in. Dodgeball, The Breakup (Dont ask, I had my reasons for watching it), that old TV show Ed, you name it. Why, of all people, do you get that guy? - RobbyDigital, on 10/12/2007, -7/+56I like how you act like that's the reason why you won't buy Apple's products. You clearly have something against Apple, or you prefer other products over theirs, which is totally fine. But why on earth would someone not buy something because of how "cocky" a company is? Don't be a tool.
- TenebrousX, on 10/12/2007, -5/+54"Speaking of 'zealots', are you[flag] a windows fan boy?"
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you're new here - Aggaman, on 10/12/2007, -7/+55You have to laugh at people saying that these ads are not successful. Adpeople preferably want you to love the adverts, but they like it almost as much if you hate them. Indifference is what kills.
This has been Apple's most successful marketing campaign since "Think Different". - thedingman, on 10/12/2007, -13/+60Saying there is nothing a mac can't do better than a PC is flawed, just like saying there is nothing a PC can do better than a mac. Speaking of 'zealots', are you a windows fan boy?
- YourTechSupport, on 10/12/2007, -7/+45"You are laughing out loud, Cancel or Allow?"
"STFULOL!!!" - caca4cocoPuffs, on 10/12/2007, -2/+39cute ad, should have made it to the Superbowl. :-)
- superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -13/+50@flag: There's at least one that simply shows the better side of Mac - the MagSafe connector one. Nothing more clear and true than pointing out the Magsafe connector prevents laptops from being pulled to the floor...
I've seen it happen and done it myself, so it's not like it's a problem that did not need solving.
Since you didn't realize there was even one, it's entirely probably you didn't realize others were equally helpful as well. You have what we all like to call "selective misunderstanding". - LaughingMan11, on 10/12/2007, -8/+44"unless you have half a brain and know how to use a computer"
And people claim that Mac users are pretentious about their own superiority? - dulcimer, on 10/12/2007, -6/+40Just using IE7 has turned me off from upgrading to Vista. This ad conveys my exact feelings.
- Tweakedenigma, on 10/12/2007, -9/+40Now im not a Mac user (Linux) but from a non-windows users point of view a lot of Windows users come off just as smug. Not Mom and Pop computer users that don't know what an OS is but the hard core windows users.
- colincornaby, on 10/12/2007, -6/+37God, this commercial is spot on. I was beta testing Vista and it annoyed me nearly every time I opened a control panel it wanted verification. With OS X if you're an administrator all your control panels are unlocked (you can lock them if you feel paranoid and it will remember their state). And if you're a normal user you can unlock systemwide settings with a user/name password. Meantime Vista assume you're a moron. What kind of security is that anyway? The entire point of prompting like this is to keep people from screwing with your computer. On OS X, people can't screw with your system wide settings unless they know your password. On Vista, it's just a button they have to push. What, are people trying to screw with your settings not going to know how to click a button?
: sigh : - paulsmerdon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+30You're joking right?
Apple has been running pre-release versions of Vista for years. It is just good business practice to know what your competitors are up to. I guarantee that Microsoft is evaluating pre-release copies of Leopard somewhere in Redmond. - topherfitz, on 10/12/2007, -7/+36This is the only one that I truly think is going to work. Everything about it is true. I'm using Vista right now, it's freaking annoying as hell when it pops up asking me if I want to do anything...and i do mean anything!
- GliTCH82, on 10/12/2007, -11/+39You are making generalized statements about Apple's fan base and no one cares. Cancel or Allow?
- node3, on 10/12/2007, -4/+30"Well, you're either lying or Vista has somehow magically detected you're of low intelligence so it's doing it's best to save you.
I'm going with lying and you may want to choose that or be labelled as low intelligence."
No, he's being hyperbolic, which is not lying since he does not intend to be taken absolutely literally.
Given most people have no problem grasping this, perhaps we should visit the topic of where *you* belong on the intelligence scale... - superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -4/+29Is McDonald's the best restaurant? Are the coach seats in any airline the most comfortable? Is beer sold in deflatbale kegs the best?
Not all things that come in quantity are the best. No trickery is required for people to try cheap for a while before they move on. Just watch the Baby Boomer generation age and stop taking ***** from computers. - epheterson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27It's called User Account Control and it's a bitch. Total failure of a security system for two reasons: (1) It's too intrusive and (2) the average user doesn't know what the ***** to do when seeing the message.
Besides that, I get one (or two if UAC is enabled) messages asking if I'll allow a deletion of a file. It's a bitch because deleting a file is instinctively a very easy task and you end up reading and doing far more than you imagined.
I got Vista Ultimate because I was a beta tester and I've been convinced that it's a waste of years of programming time and corporate funds. My first mac is arriving via FedEx on Wed. - irateVpirate, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26It's just like when you got picked on in junior high. You only got pissed off if the bully was right. That's why PC fanboys get so flamed with these commercials. And that's why bill gates ran his mouth, and blatantly lied in his interview with News Week.
- virtualball, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25I'm a Mac user AND a Vista user *time for gasps*
And I have to say one thing: why? Why should I have to have a warning when I open the control panel and why should I have to turn this off. Isn't there somewhere in-between that would work? Why can't they develop better security solutions then this, it seems like this is a last minute solution. Why when I have an admin account must I OK the computer to open the mouse control panel?
I'm not saying it's a bad OS, don't get me wrong, it's solid and all, but just...why? - waynechng, on 10/12/2007, -5/+26@Lax32
He was also the nerdy kid who worshipped Tim Allen in "Galaxy Quest", so his 'coolness' was pre-negated for me. Kind of like I will never be to look at "Gilmore Girl" Lauren Graham and not think, "***** me Santa! ***** me Santa! ***** me Santa!" - turpenine, on 10/12/2007, -7/+28if i was the best, i'd probably be a little cocky.
- shinynew, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21Well i see people's deaths before they happen, but you dont see me bitching.
- aussieNickuss, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23The major "flaw" with UAC is that users will desensitize to the popups. They will end up having the automatic action of hitting allow every time without actually absorbing the message, because it appears so frequently. The other problem is that the message box disables everything else...the screen fades and you can't do any other action until you click "cancel or allow". I think this will lead to people disabling it, potentially returning Vista to XP's level of security.
EDIT: r3neGaDe's comment is pretty much the same as mine. - GliTCH82, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24Mine worked fine for watching this. Too many crap extensions?
- superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24Yes it's easy to turn the warnings off - and loose all the extra security Vista is giving you.
It should be noted at this point that the Mac has a UAC like mechanism that also prompts you for a password when you are about to do something that might affect the system. It just happens to be tuned much better as to frequency and cause to bring forth. - ambrosious, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22What's with all these comments about Mac users being haughty and full of themselves? Last time I checked it was about the software/hardware that mattered not generalizations about the people that use them. When have you ever heard a Mac user talk about people who don't use them as "lesser" in any way? These adds, along with Mac enthusiasts are talking about differences in claims about computer performance. Seriously, if you have a legitimate complaint about Macs give some real reasons, not these lame and vague arguments that mac users are metro/annoying/egotistical.
- RobbyDigital, on 10/12/2007, -6/+24Newsflash: Companies bash their competitors. See various other commercials for several examples of this.
- DatoeDakari, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19Haha, I like the way he said the last allow :-)
- colincornaby, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20"Vista prompts you to let the software run. The malware is not running when the UAC prompt comes up"
That doesn't make any sense. It only brings up a UAC dialog when a program tries to do something that Microsoft has determined is bad. Like this:
1) Malware runs through security hole in something else (I.E., or whatever really).
2) Malware tries to delete your Windows directory.
3) Windows brings a UAC prompt up.
4) Malware nicely clicks "Yes" for you
5) Your windows directory is toast.
Now let's compare to the Mac side:
1) Malware runs through a security hole in Safari or whatever.
2) Malware requests privileges to delete your System directory.
3) Malware just sits because it doesn't know your password.
Microsoft security is like the Great Wall of China. They build a huge wall around their system. But if anything gets in, the core of Windows is just a mushy playground for malware. Windows users have to hope that wall around their system holds, or else they are screwed.
OS X, on the other hand, like Linux and other *nixs, is built like a castle. The entire system is built assuming worst case, that Safari is full of security holes and the malware is already on your machine. Even if malware compromises Safari, it still won't have enough access to take down the machine. Security holes that allow you to gain root privileges are the ones you really need to watch out for. And to be fair, MoAB did find a few of these holes. But none of them were as simple as just compromising one program, like Safari or QuickTime. The flaws that gained root access usually required insecure 3rd party software that had root privs that could be compromised. But those flaws still required you to get onto the system in the first place. - animatefire, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18I'm going to go out on a limb here. Maybe it's their job to know. And maybe, just maybe, they can read.
- GliTCH82, on 10/12/2007, -6/+23"Mac needs to go back to showing how much better it is than trying to show how much worse the other side is."
Fair enough, and I guess this ad does a pretty good job of showing that Mac is better for not nagging you about security risks all the time. I really do have to concede that Vista's security alerts are annoying if you leave them enabled. -
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